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Why should we feel sorry for 4chan?

Mass media and blogosphere hysteria ensued after several ISPs (including AT&T) responded to customer complaints and blocked an IP address that was transmitting massive amounts of Denial of Service (DoS) traffic.  For something as routine and essential as blocking a malicious attack from a computer on the Internet, all hell broke loose late Sunday evening and early Monday morning because the IP address belonged to a popular image sharing site called 4chan whose members are infamous for perpetrating porn flooding pranks on YouTube as well as organizing DoS attacks against other websites.

WARNING: For those of you unfamiliar with 4chan and may be curious, 4chan is NOT SAFE FOR WORK (NSFW) due to the XXX images they host there so I would advise against looking them up on your work computer.

As a result of the defensive measures taken by the ISPs to protect their network and their customers, 4chan members cried foul and pumped up the story on digg.  Dailykos and even mainstream technology site PC World cried Net Neutrality foul all the while rejecting plausible explanations.  Ian Paul of PC World argued that “Even if it turns out AT&T’s decisions were legitimate, the appearance of censorship raises the contentious issue of Network Neutrality.”  Others even questioned why AT&T even has the power to block websites in the first place but this attitude stems from a lack of understanding of how networks and DoS attacks work.

When a DoS attack occurs, the victim being attacked can block the attack traffic but not before the attack has already jammed up and killed their Internet connection.  Only the network operator can block the attack far enough upstream that the network isn’t flooded.  This not only preserves the network for the direct victims of the DoS attack, it also keeps the network unclogged for everyone else.

It was clear early on from the North American Network Operators Group (NANOG) message boards that many ISPs were blocking 4chan IP addresses due to the massive amounts of DoS attack traffic coming from 4chan.  We’re talking about enough traffic that could fill up gigabit Ethernet links which is the equivalent of hundreds of broadband connections.  It turned that 4chan was being DoS attacked by others using spoofed (forged) addresses and 4chan in turn reflected the attack traffic onto other forced IP addresses of other victims many of whom were on AT&T’s network.

Note: 4chan and its members are infamous for openly organizing and launching many DoS attack campaigns against other websites so it should be no surprise to see so many reprisal attacks against 4chan.  Their members even went as far as pushing false stories up on that AT&T’s CEO was found dead outside of his home from cocaine overdose to deliberately drive AT&T’s stock down.

The owner of 4chan who goes by the handle “moot” (real identity Christopher Poole) even admits that their own equipment was harming AT&T customers with “errant traffic”.  As a former network engineer, I can explain that this only happens if you fail to lock down your own equipment.  Had 4chan configured their own equipment properly or resolved the issue sooner rather than blame others, this would have never happened.  But despite the admittance of fault, Poole claims that this “disproportionate response” from AT&T highlights the dangers of censorship and raises the need for Net Neutrality (which never had anything to do with censorship in the first place).

Christopher Poole is in effect no different from the long list of people who falsely claim to be victims of censorship and demand the passage of unrelated legislation.  In light of the 4chan’s active campaigning for DoS attacks against other websites, any “disproportionate” response against 4chan is that the response wasn’t heavy handed enough.  This particular story has an uncanny resemblance to the Craigslist versus Cox fiasco which was similarly misreported with fabricated news stories.  Craigslist could have fixed their own problem all along but they wanted to milk their victim status for all it was worth in the debate on Net Neutrality and eventually fixed the problem silently on their own end after the story died down.

Internet network operators routinely thwart thousands of these attacks every day by blocking IP addresses and no one ever cries foul.  Yet when one of the biggest prankster websites in the world gets blocked for spewing attack traffic; the blogosphere and even mainstream technology press slams AT&T even after it was clear that they were merely doing their job to protect their customers.  The only bright side of this fiasco is that it will hopefully serve as a real life lesson on how the Internet really works and that it really can't just be a "dumb pipe".

-- George Ou


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4chan, saddo's/
By dark matter on 8/3/2009 2:35:39 AM , Rating: 2
huh, they need to grow up.

Shit site, frequented by inadequates. Wouldn't miss it if it fell of the face of the Earth.

If you rounded up those who use that website and put them all in a shed, and then set fire to that shed, no-one would give a fuck.

RE: 4chan, saddo's/
By WeaselITB on 8/3/2009 11:16:53 AM , Rating: 4
I'm sure someone would ... you just destroyed a perfectly good shed.

RE: 4chan, saddo's/
By Lerianis on 8/3/09, Rating: 0
RE: 4chan, saddo's/
By dark matter on 8/4/2009 6:10:35 AM , Rating: 2
Way to read into things I didn't write!

I never mentioned it was a porn site! Is it? Mmmm, sure it has pictures on there. It certainly isn't a porn site though. It is a picture bulletin board.

What makes you a "lesser" person by going there is the banal, repetitive postings of teenage lads yet to get laid...

I guess I am just all grown up and get to go out and sleep with women. One day young padawin, one day your time will come. (or maybe not if all you do is sit there all weekend on a 'porn site' saying such classic lines as "tits out")


RE: 4chan, saddo's/
By Chocobollz on 8/4/2009 10:33:01 AM , Rating: 2
So, you think you've grown up huh? Sadly, I would say you haven't. If you're truly a "grown ups" man, you must have already knew that someone's maturity is judged by their attitude and I don't think your attitude shows that you're an adult. When you "judge" someone as a "lesser" person just because they read some websites, then I can say you're still childish. An adults always try to respect others and not to "judge a book by its cover".

I never mentioned it was a porn site! Is it? Mmmm, sure it has pictures on there. It certainly isn't a porn site though. It is a picture bulletin board.

Sure you're not explicitely say it but still, if you actually read the article, that shouldn't be a surprise.

What makes you a "lesser" person by going there is the banal, repetitive postings of teenage lads yet to get laid..

I want to ask you, do they bother you when they're doing that? For God's sake, they're just kids, that's what they do.

I guess I am just all grown up and get to go out and sleep with women.

So, just because you get to go out and sleep with a woman, that makes you an adult? Please don't make me laugh LOL.

RE: 4chan, saddo's/
By invidious on 8/6/09, Rating: 0
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