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The Pirate Bay co-founders Fredrik Neij, Gottfrid Svartholm Warg and Peter Sunde Kolmisoppi have been ordered to block traffic to and from the Netherlands or face $42,000 a day in fines. It is unclear how the Netherlands court will enforce the order on the Swedish nationals.  (Source: Bob Strong/Reuters)
Argghh Netherlands no longer be clear sailing...

The Pirate Bay was the world's largest torrents provider and thus one of the international leaders of the p2p file sharing and piracy movements.  Just as they seemed to be getting some traction, the Swedish government slapped them with conspiracy charges, of which they were later found guilty of. The admins -- Fredrik Neij, Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, Peter Sunde, and Carl Lundstroem -- were sentenced to a year of jail and $3.6M USD in fines. 

Faced with the bankruptcy of the site, the admins sold it to a media company (Global Gaming Factory) that looked to turn it legit, paying copyright holders for their work.

However, smelling blood, the copyright holders are moving to push the site to the brink, even as its own users forsake it for giving up its pirate roots.  A Dutch court has ordered three of the Swedish admins to block all traffic to and from the Netherlands or face major financial penalties.

The courts ruled the shutdown was necessary in order to prevent further infringement.  The courts said it didn't matter whether one or all of them blocked the traffic, but warned that failing to do so within 10 days would result in a fine of 30,000 Euros, or $42,000 per day.  What is unclear is whether the court will be able to enforce the fines as the admins reside in a different country.

Despite the fact that The Pirate Bay is reportedly in talks to negotiated paid content deals with Hollywood studios and the major music labels, it is those same entities that helped push for its removal from the Netherlands. 
BMG, EMI, Sony BMG, Universal, Columbia Pictures, 20th Century Fox, Universal, and Warner Bros and the copyright protection organization that represent them -- the IFPI, RIAA, and MPAA -- have banded together to try to squash the pirates. 

The Swedish guilty verdict, currently under appeal, was one major victory; now the order to cease the site's Netherlands traffic is another.
  The groups also filed a suit last week seeking a Swedish court injunction to shut down the site after the guilty verdict.  The site currently continues to operate.



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RE: irritated and unrelated
By TheSpaniard on 7/31/2009 10:17:52 AM , Rating: 3
what brower are you using?

IE8 blocks them automatically (if you activate the feature, its a lock in the bottom right of the window)

Firefox adblocks it away

sorry if you are a chrome user :(


RE: irritated and unrelated
By ElementZero on 7/31/2009 10:31:24 AM , Rating: 3
The point is that they are extremely annoying and I shouldn't have to rely on my browser to block something that shouldn't be there in the first place. I'm not even sure if those popup ads work in the first place - certainly I would think only by mistake (I know I have clicked them a few times just cause I was scrolling down the page, the dumb popup comes up and I click it as I'm trying to get focus back on the page.)

In any case, they are extremely annoying, I wish DT didn't use them.


RE: irritated and unrelated
By collegeguypat on 7/31/2009 11:15:28 AM , Rating: 4
My second time posting this; if you hover over one of the Vibrant ads, then click on the word Vibrant on the upper right corner of the ad, a new window should open. In the new window there's a tab for "disable". Follow the instructions (click on a word) and you'll have a cookie that disables Vibrant ads until you clear your cookies. I think it's a global disabling of the ads on any sites.


RE: irritated and unrelated
By PrinceGaz on 7/31/2009 1:47:03 PM , Rating: 2
I don't want to have to rely on *their* cookie blocking their ads. Which is why I have Opera set to block all content from

http://*.edintorni.net/*
http://*.intellitxt.com/*
http://*.kontera.com/*
http://*.snap.com/*

which between them seems to take care of all of those annoying sponsored mouse-over links added to articles on all the sites I personally visit. You could also redirect those URLs to localhost in your hosts file as an alternative.

I don't block any other ads (except those Opera's popup blocker blocks) as I do believe websites should receive ad revenue, but those mouseover links seriously annoy me which is why I always block them, and the first thing I'll do if I come across one which the above list doesn't stop, is to add it to my list of blocked content.


RE: irritated and unrelated
By PseudoKnight on 8/1/2009 10:11:57 PM , Rating: 2
I'm the same way. I use Opera and I only block ads that impede utility (or I find offensive and illegal, like those Civony/Evony ads). Their cookies for disabling the ads never stick. I'd prefer that websites I visit not use them at all, but blocking these ads are the only other solution available to users. They can be just as annoying as tab/window popups or flash popups.


RE: irritated and unrelated
By tastyratz on 7/31/2009 11:21:51 AM , Rating: 2
Yup.
I installed adblock plus after explicitly searching for a solution to the beyond obnoxious ad system dailytech runs. Ads used to just be ignored by me, but they are so intrusive and obnoxious here I have to say... I love you guys but without my adblockplus I wouldn't even visit the site. I understand ads generate revenue but DT to ads = RIAA to music.


RE: irritated and unrelated
By MrBlastman on 7/31/2009 11:44:08 AM , Rating: 5
If you are really clever... You would load a modified HOSTS file on your computer which would completely alleviate everything (just about). Nothing else needed to be done.

It takes about a minute.

However, as much as I read DT, I feel they more than deserve the ad revenue - someone has to help them pay the bills.


RE: irritated and unrelated
By Chaser on 7/31/2009 12:00:10 PM , Rating: 3
Wow! Ad block plus must be that good. I get nothing with firefox except the articles. :)


RE: irritated and unrelated
By hrah20 on 7/31/2009 3:49:55 PM , Rating: 3
me too, I installed no script/adblock a long time ago and I forgot there were ads in DT, When I saw the first post I said WTF??? What ads???

Ooohh, Right.


RE: irritated and unrelated
By SilthDraeth on 8/1/2009 8:38:32 PM , Rating: 2
I had noscript, but I still see the words being underlined. I just added adblock plus, and I still see the words underlined. How do I block that?


RE: irritated and unrelated
By iamezza on 8/2/2009 12:38:09 AM , Rating: 2
If you are running noscript/adblock the underlined words are just normal hyper-links. They can't be blocked.


RE: irritated and unrelated
By bhieb on 7/31/2009 11:22:12 AM , Rating: 3
That's right damnit, I want my site free of all adds who carse if DT goes out of business with no revenue stream. /sarcasm

Go sign up for a paid news site if you don't like the ads, they make the net go round.


RE: irritated and unrelated
By NullSubroutine on 7/31/2009 6:53:53 PM , Rating: 5
I am going to have to disagree, I believe this is my computer and I get to say what is downloaded, ran, or viewed. If I wish to not have certain images or links shown on my browser then that is what is going to happen.

There used to be a time where ads weren't in the middle of the text you were reading, blinking-seizure-inducing images, , "Congratulations you won a Wii" audio, or gaudy pop-ups distracting you.

Until such a time that the internet no longer has such advertisement I will block all incoming ads. It isn't like advertising isn't bombarded on us 24/7 365. You can't go anywhere without seeing an ad.


RE: irritated and unrelated
By kroker on 8/1/2009 5:28:06 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, it really sucks that you can't have your cake and eat it too... But, hey, that's life!

You choose what is downloaded and run when you type an url in the address bar or click a link. If you don't like what is being shown on a site, you can very well choose another site. If no site suits you because they all have ads, why don't you do the world a favor and spend thousands and thousands of dollars creating and running your own free site with no ads and zero earnings? One person's sacrifice would save many people from the traumatizing horrors of advertising.

Honestly, I don't know why some people are bothered by the ads themselves. Personally, it's the damn browser exploits and credit card information stealing that kind of get to me!


RE: irritated and unrelated
By leexgx on 8/2/2009 12:31:30 AM , Rating: 1
yes but itellitxt adds are Shit bit-tech tryed it it last 2-3 days before it was removed permanently, as every one threatened to Block every single ad on the site if it was not removed, i am surprised that there has not been an more about it all ready (i got banned from hardocp forums for basically posting about ads rejoined and quietly blocked all there ads just for the last lame Ban as there site is good but intiltxt suck)

i do not mind ads not ones that make the sites unreadable when i move my mouse over an intellitxt link

i forgot to import the IE7pro block list into opera dailytech reminded me to import it

http://*.edintorni.net/*
http://*.intellitxt.com/*
http://*.kontera.com/*
http://*.snap.com/*


RE: irritated and unrelated
By leexgx on 8/2/2009 12:52:51 AM , Rating: 2
as its only intellitxt Type of ads i hate i have opted to only block them that have been listed (i assume the posted links are intellitxt Type of ads)


RE: irritated and unrelated
By christojojo on 8/3/2009 11:44:06 AM , Rating: 2
So you are saying that ads that destroy your reading pleasure should be allowed?

That makes as much sense as going to a football (American or European; I don't care). You start watching the game and as soon as a great play starts to happen the guy in front of you pops up and says, "buy an Ipod now to see what happened." (For the sake of the argument lets say it was a free very publicized game).

Not only is that irritating, but I am sure that would get a few people jailed for their reactions.

I am not saying Dailytech has no right to advertise. I specifically stated I wanted a better solution not a removal of ads. I don't mind obvious ads. I hate obnoxious ads that steal the pleasure from the site.


RE: irritated and unrelated
By Oregonian2 on 8/2/2009 2:00:48 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry - but I own computer, so i should be the one choosing what which is viewed.


RE: irritated and unrelated
By snbdr on 7/31/2009 12:03:12 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The point is that they are extremely annoying and I shouldn't have to rely on my browser to block something that shouldn't be there in the first place.


Don't be one of those people that think the world should do everything for them. As stated above go in and change some settings so the ads stop. You can always use Firefox with Ad Block plus to stop annoying adds anywhere you go.


RE: irritated and unrelated
By Lazarus Dark on 7/31/2009 7:11:04 PM , Rating: 2
I have adblock, but for sites I visit more than two or three times, I always unblock them, as I have unblocked Dailytech ads. We've been watching tv ads for decades so we should be used to them, and I for one appreciate all the free content ads allow. However, ads should be passive, unobtrusive, and never get in your way, such as the popup word ads on Dailytech. Is there a way to turn off all ads that aren't just images? Like maybe only allowing gif and jpg and tiff ads?


RE: irritated and unrelated
By Captin Crunch on 8/2/2009 4:27:39 PM , Rating: 2
your shitten me.. you actually turn the ads back on!! do you feel you have some kind of moral obligation? if you find the ads informative or have interesting content then i can understand, but looking at shit that you don't need or want because you feel you should is stupid.

I totally agree about the popup thing though, it's too intrusive and feels like the good old days of emails spam mediocrity. I like the content on DT, but i think they should try and evolve a new way of making revenue. And if any DT fanboy thinks i should go somewhere else for my tech news, i won't, and i have every intension of installing an adblocke to rid myself of those stupid popups!


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