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We would have gotten away with blocking out syncing if it wasn't for those meddling OS updates!

Early last week Apple rolled out iTunes 8.2.1, a sneaky little update with a hidden agenda -- to kill the Palm Pre's syncing with Apple's iTunes software.  As the owner of the majority of the MP3 player market, Apple's iPods can only officially sync with iTunes.  This means that most users, for better or worse, use iTunes and have all their music preloaded into it.  Thus it was an attractive feature for the Pre automatically sync with iTunes, with no messy importing or folder-searching necessary.

Apple managed to block that feature for a bit, but not for long.  Palm has now released webOS 1.1.0, an update to the Palm Pre's operating system.  The update does many nice things; among them it unblocks iTunes and restores syncing.  Palm innocently describes the one-up stating that the update "resolves an issue preventing media sync from working with latest version of iTunes (8.2.1)."

Other improvements include proper deletion of emails via push, smoother list scrolling, new drop-down animations, corrected folders within IMAP Gmail accounts, and faster application load times.  The other big improvements are the addition of emoticons and Microsoft Exchange.  Palm also has released its 31st application for the phone -- NFL Mobile Live for watching games and audio from the device.

It seems a natural question to ask how long it will take before Apple releases iTunes 8.2.2 and tries to lock out the Pre once more.  However, as the latest update goes to show for all the embarrassment that its anticompetitive tactics bring, locking the Pre out of iTunes may be a losing battle.

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RE: Lawsuit time
By ltcommanderdata on 7/24/2009 2:32:14 PM , Rating: -1

Unauthorized use of assigned or unassigned USB Vendor ID Numbers and associated Product ID Numbers are strictly prohibited.

Actually if you read the application form for USB vendor IDs from the USB Implementers Forum which manages USB licenses it specifically prevents companies from using other companies USB Vendor and Product IDs. What's more USB vendor IDs generally cost a company $2000. So if I'm reading the application form right, Palm is basically stealing from Apple and violating USB licensing agreements by masquerading the Pre as an iPod. I wonder what type of punishment the USB Implementers Forum has available if Apple filed a complaint. It'd be interesting to see Palm's future if the USB Implementers Forum revokes Palm's USB Vendor ID or USB license.

RE: Lawsuit time
By T2k on 7/24/2009 2:41:19 PM , Rating: 4
So if you weren't too lazy to do even just a basic search on the subject before you post your false claims you'd know that

1. IOUSBDevice# != USB MSC identification


2. obviously Pal is NOT using Apple's ID which, apparently evident for everybody except you in first place, would have been a suicidal move.

Read on:

RE: Lawsuit time
By ltcommanderdata on 7/24/2009 3:27:31 PM , Rating: 2

However, it’s only the Mass Storage interface that identifies itself as an iPod. The root USB node (IOUSBDevice) still identifies the device as a Palm Pre (not visible in the image above).

So which spoofing is allowed? Because if I'm reading this properly, Palm is spoofing the USB MSC ID while the root IOUSBDevice is still reading as Palm.

RE: Lawsuit time
By Lonyo on 7/25/2009 2:22:41 AM , Rating: 1

Palm believes that openness and interoperability offer better experiences for users by allowing them the freedom to use the content they own without interference across devices and services, so on behalf of consumers, we have notified the USB Implementers Forum of what we believe is improper use of the Vendor ID number by another member.

Palm have already gone to the USB Implementers Forum about this. If they were the ones messing about with ID numbers, you can be fairly sure they wouldn't be trying to make an issue out of this. They are claiming Apple are being dodgy, which implies they are not going to be in any way at fault, or they are incredibly stupid.

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