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Firefox 3.5 hit 4 million downloads early this morning, capping an impressive debut.  (Source: Mozilla.org)
Firefox's new browser is a hit

While still not as ubiquitous as Microsoft's Internet Explorer, Mozilla's new Firefox 3.5 browser was just released yesterday and is off to a great start.  The browser was met with mostly positive reviews.  Reuters stated, "There's no doubt that version 3.5 of Firefox is significantly faster than version 3...All in all, this is a major improvement over Firefox 3. Even if you're not currently a Firefox user, you'll want to give it a try."

CNET was slightly more measured commenting, "Firefox 3.5 is a much-needed improvement to the world's most popular alternative browser... While some of the improvements, such as the HTML5 and other developer enhancements will continue to make the browser their first choice, many of the other changes merely keep it in-line with the competition."

At the end of the day, though, Firefox 3.5's hot new features like HTML5 support and a faster JavaScript engine won over users.  Downloads were blazing at 100 per second for much of the day yesterday.  Mozilla's servers performed admirably under the load.

The new browser hit 1 million downloads within a couple hours and 2 million downloads in 7 and 1/2 hours.  By this morning it had 4.3 million downloads.  You can view the progress yourself on the download tracker found here

The U.S. leads the world with 1.1 million downloads, with Germany in second with 496,000 downloads.

While the new Firefox is certainly very popular, it failed to surpass its own Guinness World record set by Firefox 3, which recorded 8 million downloads worldwide in 24 hours.  Firefox also faces reinvigorated competition -- Apple claims that 11 million copies of its new Safari were downloaded in 3 days, and Opera is gearing up for a big 10.0 release



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RE: Tried it out yesterday
By Spivonious on 7/1/2009 12:09:18 PM , Rating: 3
Looked it up and according to Mozilla themselves, phishing protection debuted in Firefox 3, released June 2008. IE7 was released in October 2006.

Web Slices are a fantastic feature, and I hope more sites start using them. The provide much richer content than simple RSS feeds can. I also like the Accelerators feature. Since Microsoft lets anyone create accelerators and web slices, it's hard to believe that other browsers can't utilize them.

Maybe Opera had private mode first, but regardless Firefox is playing catch-up.

I use the RSS toolbar so I don't want to remove it. I want to hide the menu bar, but Firefox doesn't give me that option.

IE can prompt me when a site wants to set a cookie and I can approve/deny it then. With Firefox I have to block all cookies and then whitelist sites manually. Same result in the end, but a lot harder to set up.

W3C compliance? Have you read the standards? They can be interpreted in so many ways it's no wonder that sites look different between IE, Firefox, and Opera.

CSS3 is still under development, so it doesn't make sense to support it. And before you bring it up, it's the same with HTML5.


RE: Tried it out yesterday
By adiposity on 7/1/2009 1:21:36 PM , Rating: 4
I disagree that "copying" a useful feature of another browser is a "con." They aren't going to be first with everything. The question is, how good is the implementation now, and do we want it?

It is not a con if a feature is well implemented, useful, and desirable, but just happened to be on another browser first.

It may be disappointing that Firefox 3.5 was released after IE8, but now that it is released, it is not suddenly worse because IE8 already exists. Back when 3.5 was not out yet, you might have had a point. But if you are going to compare Firefox 3.5 to IE8 today, the date of release is not really relevant.

-Dan


RE: Tried it out yesterday
By adiposity on 7/1/2009 1:31:11 PM , Rating: 2
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IE can prompt me when a site wants to set a cookie and I can approve/deny it then. With Firefox I have to block all cookies and then whitelist sites manually. Same result in the end, but a lot harder to set up.


Tools / Options / Privacy : "Use Custom Settings"
Keep Until : "Ask me every time"

Now it will ask you every time it needs to set a cookie (or modify it) unless you whitelist the site (which you can do when it asks permission to set the cookie).

-Dan


RE: Tried it out yesterday
By Spivonious on 7/1/2009 3:38:28 PM , Rating: 1
"Keep Until Ask Me Every Time"

Gee, that makes a whole lot of sense. In any case, I still see no advantage to using Firefox over IE. Now back when it was Firefox 2 vs IE6, there was no contest; Firefox destroyed IE. Since IE7 came out though, I've had very little use for an alternative browser.


RE: Tried it out yesterday
By adiposity on 7/1/2009 4:34:59 PM , Rating: 2
"Keep until" lets you choose how long to keep cookies (it's under a subcategory of "Accept Cookies from Site," by the way.

The three options are:

Keep until: They Expire
Keep until: I close Browser
Keep until: Ask me every time

Granted, the last one does not parse perfectly as an English sentence; I'm sorry you didn't understand it. I do think it's fairly clear what it does, though.

I'm glad you are happy with IE; I just don't want your inexperience with Firefox to inform others as to Firefox deficiencies that don't exist. Since you clearly aren't that much of a Firefox user, maybe you shouldn't assume you know its capabilities.

Don't worry, I was happy to correct you :)

-Dan


RE: Tried it out yesterday
By ThePooBurner on 7/1/2009 1:41:43 PM , Rating: 2
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IE can prompt me when a site wants to set a cookie and I can approve/deny it then. With Firefox I have to block all cookies and then whitelist sites manually. Same result in the end, but a lot harder to set up.

Funny, FireFox asks me every time a site wants to set a cookie and i can choose to accept or deny it then. Only it goes a step further and will let me choose allow the whole site at once if i want. It will also let me choose if i want to always allow it (perm white list) or allow it only for the session (temp white list to prevent any tracking between sessions). You should probably learn more about what you are talking about next time.


RE: Tried it out yesterday
By The0ne on 7/1/2009 3:35:19 PM , Rating: 2
Definitely a good thing in Firefox. Use it all the time to deny scripts that does nothing but track you, put ads, etc. Very flexible as you've stated whereas IE is not.


RE: Tried it out yesterday
By Quinton McLeod on 7/2/2009 8:52:02 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Looked it up and according to Mozilla themselves, phishing protection debuted in Firefox 3, released June 2008. IE7 was released in October 2006.


Seems to me that your research was in vain.

Firefox 2 Phishing Filter:
http://www.mozilla.org/security/phishing-test.html
http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phishing#Browsers_ale...

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Web Slices are a fantastic feature, and I hope more sites start using them. The provide much richer content than simple RSS feeds can. I also like the Accelerators feature. Since Microsoft lets anyone create accelerators and web slices, it's hard to believe that other browsers can't utilize them.


Lets reword that:
Active X is a fantastic feature, and I hope more sites start using it. It provide much richer content than simple Java scripts can. I also like the auto-install feature. Since Microsoft lets anyone create auto-installers and Active X scripts, it's hard to believe other browsers can't utilize them.

quote:

Maybe Opera had private mode first, but regardless Firefox is playing catch-up.


Firefox playing catch up to who?? Opera and Webkit? Certainly not IE8! Like I said before, IE8 still isn't nearly as compliant to the W3C standards as Firefox.

quote:

I use the RSS toolbar so I don't want to remove it. I want to hide the menu bar, but Firefox doesn't give me that option.


Simple. View --> Toolbars --> Uncheck "Bookmarks Toolbar".

Or better yet, hold CTRL and press B. It'll bring up the sidebar. Your RSS stuff shows up there too! Press it again to hide it. Problem solved.

quote:

IE can prompt me when a site wants to set a cookie and I can approve/deny it then. With Firefox I have to block all cookies and then whitelist sites manually. Same result in the end, but a lot harder to set up.


All websites use cookies in one form or another. You're saying you want your browser to annoy you to death with cookie prompts for each site you visit? I dunno if I would consider that "easy", but whatever. IE: 1 pt - Firefox - 10 pts

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W3C compliance? Have you read the standards? They can be interpreted in so many ways it's no wonder that sites look different between IE, Firefox, and Opera. CSS3 is still under development, so it doesn't make sense to support it. And before you bring it up, it's the same with HTML5.


You're a bit confused. W3C standards are interpreted one way and one way only. That is why they are called STANDARDS. If someone is interpreting the standards differently, then they are interpreting them wrong.

CSS3 still being under development is no excuse to not support it. The purpose of supporting stuff is to help the developer and not screw with him/her. If I create a website for one browser, it should look good in ALL the browsers. I should never have to make my page look good for Firefox and then have to "hack" it so it looks good in IE.


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