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According to reports the new iPhone 3G S's are overheating enough to discolor the plastic from white to pink or brown. The iPod Touches and iPhone 3G's are also suffering lesser heat issues, indicating firmware may be partially responsible. Apple has released no official word on the widespread reports.  (Source: Le Journal du Geek)
Apple's iPhone 3G S takes the heat

Apple boldly advertises the slogan "It just works", but Apple has its share of issues just like any other tech company.  Among the recent problems included Mac display issues (which have been ongoing for over a year) and iPhone signal issues (also a year old problem).

Now another familiar problem has been reported.  Apple's hot new iPhone is not just getting hot figuratively, it's getting hot literally.  Reports of Apple's handsets turning toasty and colorizing from white to a toasty brown or rosy pink have been widely reported.

Reportedly, the phones are more likely to overheat when playing games or using the GPS.  The iPhone 3G S packs a much faster CPU and graphics processor than its predecessor, a likely source of the heating issues.  However, Apple thus far has denied the reports and refused to comment that there is a problem with the handsets.

Melissa J. Perenson of PC World is among those whose iPhone 3G S is overheating.  She writes, "And at some point, I became aware the handset had become very hot. Very, very hot — not just on the back, but the entire length of the front face, too. I was using a game, and then later the Web browser for reading the news about Michael Jackson, all over a Wi-Fi connection while plugged in. And in those circumstances, well…toasty doesn’t even describe how surprisingly hot it got. It was too hot to even put the phone against my face. No discoloration to report, though; I have the black handset, and didn’t see any effects."

OS power management also may be to blame.  Reportedly, iPhones and iPod touches upgraded to the new OS v3.0 have also been heating up.  Writes Wired.com's Charlie Sorrel, "To add to the confusion, I have noticed my 2G iPod Touch getting a lot hotter than usual since updating to the v3.0 software. This happens while web browsing, and the battery is draining fast, too. I have no idea if this is related, but if it is it could point at some bad power-management software in OS 3.0."

Ultimately, it may be a combination of hardware and firmware power management that's causing the new iPhone to overload.



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RE: Houston we have a problem.
By Pirks on 7/1/2009 9:06:17 PM , Rating: 2
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If you do not alter this setting then you will be required to enter your password on wake
Well, so Apple traded security for comfort, which seems like a smart move for them. MS did the same before (remember autorun/conficker debacle?) but it did not pan out that well. Doesn't mean Apple will go the same route though. Their OS designers usually do much better job than MS's.
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MacBook has superior cooling, yet it still becomes very hot, just like any other notebook
MacBook's cooling is better not because of the lower temperatures, but because of lack of stupid air vents at the bottom.
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when these drawbacks are made out to be something superior towards their PC counterparts
What Mac's drawback exactly is "superior" to PC? Be more explicit please.
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something that is spouted as an all-round superior product through arrogant marketing shouldn't be "worse" by any persons' standpoint, should it?
It could if the person is outside of the marrket segment that is targeted by the ads, which is clearly the case with fsardis.
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"Mac sucks" is an opinion, it's not meant to go anywhere
True, but I'm not ridiculing fsardis's opinion, I laugh at his "arguments" he pulls out of his ass... or not his, I dunno :) Opinion per se is not funny, just like a taste for music or food. The "arguments" are the funny part. Got it? ;)


RE: Houston we have a problem.
By themaster08 on 7/2/2009 5:32:54 AM , Rating: 2
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Well, so Apple traded security for comfort, which seems like a smart move for them.

I would consider comfort as knowing your system is secure from unauthorised access.
Though if you consider auto-login as comfort, then Microsoft caters to the best of both worlds, because the auto-login feature is easily accomplished, but is optional.

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Their OS designers usually do much better job than MS's.

That's just your opinion. Microsoft's target market is substantially larger than Apple's. There's many more people to cater for thus there's far more places to go wrong. But I think overall they do very well to accomodate for everyone in that particular market.

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MacBook's cooling is better not because of the lower temperatures, but because of lack of stupid air vents at the bottom.

Bottom vents are only stupid to those who have no idea how they work. It obviously doesn't do the MacBook much justice having no bottom vents, it's just more aesthetically presentable. But who on earth cares what the bottom of their notebook looks like?

People that have common sense will use their notebook on a hard flat surface as often as possible. Most notebooks are built so that their is a small gap between the surface and the bottom of the notebook, usually with rubber grips, so that the bottom vents do actually come into play when cooling. Try it for yourself. Put your notebook on a flat surface, cover the bottom vents for a while and then un-cover them, I'm sure you'll find a temperature drop in the latter. With these bottom vents and the gap between the surface their is more room for air circulation.

With the MacBook, having no vents on the bottom and being on a flat surface, heat will just remain at the bottom as it's impossible that all heat will be extracted from the rear/side exhausts (wherever they are on a MacBook), particularly when heat is being produced but not circulated at the bottom and on the surface.
If heat is being produced at the front, it'll have to escape from the rear, therefore this heat is passed onto other components rather than escaping. Having no bottom vents only causes the MacBook temperature to increase, regardless of the surface it is put on.

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What Mac's drawback exactly is "superior" to PC? Be more explicit please.

I believe Apple's marketing campain answers your question. That, and OSX being "the most advanced OS in the world".

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It could if the person is outside of the marrket segment that is targeted by the ads, which is clearly the case with fsardis.

But the ad's seem to be targeted at everyone using a PC, as to say "look at what your PC can do, now look how much better a Mac can do the same thing" Albeit, these remarks are blatantly false.
Perhaps Apple should try to target their own audience more than trying to make themselves look better than Microsoft all the time.
Apple's marketing makes me think of the interview with both Jobs and Gates. Jobs said something about before he went back to Apple, when they were failing, they had the attitude that "for Apple to win, Microsoft had to lose. Apple had forgotten themselves"
All of this MS basing in their advertisements makes me feel like they are back to that petty stage. They haven't grown up, and they haven't learned where it got them.


RE: Houston we have a problem.
By Pirks on 7/2/09, Rating: 0
RE: Houston we have a problem.
By xDrift0rx on 7/2/2009 12:55:35 PM , Rating: 2
I think the only thing pushing Apple's market share up is their iPhone and maybe their iPod line.

I owned a mac mini for a short period of time and while it was a nice machine, i didnt like the feel of OSX. maybe its me just preferring sticking with the same old. but i think it has more to do with the customibility that i have with Windows. i like being able to turn off services that run in the background (print spooler, wireless zero, remote desktop etc) to further save resources. that and turn off little things that start up on boot up.

My opinion is that Windows is the superior OS, and that is why it has the market share it has. Going back to what i said, customibility - thats what windows is. thats what the manufacturers have. thats what computers are. NOT locking in their users into their little world as apple does.

just my 2 cents.

also, in b4 Pirks shitstorm


RE: Houston we have a problem.
By themaster08 on 7/2/2009 7:15:41 PM , Rating: 1
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Ah, that's why everybody here tells me to turn UAC off and STFU at last. Hehe, how simple actually :)

The option is there to turn off UAC and to turn on auto-login. You might think that the UAC is useless, so turn it off. Done. It's not forced upon you.
In my opinion, a passworded system that allows auto-login by default is just simply malpractice. If this was Microsoft, you and others would be blasting them. It's only convenient because it's Apple.

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I believe it only when I see MS market share growing, not falling like now.

In a recession it's pretty hard for a company with around 90% of the market share to grow, especially when their previous products still have first party support. The market share Microsoft has lost is inconsequential.
You still won't believe it when Microsoft regains their market share, so don't lie.

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Heat will not just remain at the bottom because there are heat sinks on the hot chips that carry heat away through heat pipes and airflow caused by fans blowing.

This will not remove most heat. Your desk/surface doesn't have heatpipes and heatsinks, and air will not be circulating between the bottom of the MacBook and the surface, therefore the heated surface will simply add to the temperature.
With bottom vents, the air between the surface and the bottom of the notebook can be circulated, so the surface will not become as heated (unless of course you are using the notebook on a soft surface), and therefore aiding the overall cooling of the notebook. Also not forgetting the aditional rear/side vents and heatpipes that most notebooks (not just MacBooks) have which further aid cooling.

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Not true, people put them everywhere including soft surfaces like their laps, where problems start to appear when their legs cover those damn air intakes.

The way you word it is like the only vents on a notebook are on the bottom, which is far from the truth.
Leaving your notebook on a soft surface will have the exact same effect regardless of whether it's a PC notebook or a MacBook, or whether it has bottom vents or not.

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If Windows were really modern slick OS with no-nonsense design, we'd see registry dead many years ago, we'd see same simple drag-n-drop install/uninstall proceduses as in OS X, we'd see application bundles like in OS X, we'd see normal and not braindead network stack like in OS X, that doesn't throttle your transfers when you wanna listen some audio, we'd see UAC that doesn't pester user with same questions twice in a row (do you want to delete this file? yes! are you REALLY sure now? YES FUCK IT YEEESSS!!!!!!!!!!!!).

What is it you have been saying, about a particular product not appealing to a certain market?
If Microsoft implemented everything you have mentioned, they would simply be a clone of OSX. I doubt Microsoft's goal is to clone an operating system with less than 10% of the market share, and to make all current software obsolete with the removal of the registry. The only point I agree with you on is the UAC. It should remember your request and never bother you again for that particular task.
I would really love to see the ability for OSX to be legally installed on non-Apple computers. Let's see if Apple can support all of the different hardware configurations as well as providing functionality for an 800% rise in consumers. I seriously doubt it.

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See, when Apple realized in late 90s (when Jobs came back) that they have to really battle MS to survive, as well as find new growth markets (PMP and smartphones for now) - this is where their luck was turned 180 degrees

Battling with Microsoft is putting something on the market that the consumers recognise as superior through their own experience, not through arrogant, petty and false marketing.
The PMP market is where Apple does not need to solely compete with Microsoft, nor make unrefined remarks towards the competition, because what they have are great products that the comsumers themselves recognise as great through their own experience.
In my opinion, they have still forgotten who Apple really is when it comes to their computer lineup.


RE: Houston we have a problem.
By Pirks on 7/2/2009 11:02:03 PM , Rating: 2
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It's only convenient because it's Apple
No, MS autorun is a convenience too, the difference between Apple convenience and MS convenience is that MS one is a heavily exploited security hole (conficker - rings any bells?) while Apple one is not.
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Leaving your notebook on a soft surface will have the exact same effect regardless of whether it's a PC notebook or a MacBook, or whether it has bottom vents or not
Wrong, because on MacBook there are no bottom air intake vents to block. When I block bottom incoming airflow vents on a PC while MacBook still gets its cool air through a keyboard intake - who's gonna win then? PC that has no air intake (blocked at the bottom) or MacBook with normal air intake unaffected by soft surface at the bottom? Easy question, eh? ;)
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they would simply be a clone of OSX
Is being a clone of a most advanced OS a necesarily bad thing? Whole undeground kingdom of clonemakers is making fortunes off the established brands, you know all these Soni, Adibas and other "chinese clones" - so why MS can't get rich the same way too? After all they cloned OS X dock, I liked it actually, but why not go further? I want my drag drop installers, I want my portable application bundles, I want my XML config files instead of MS-DOS registry. Just wait till MS clones this stuff too, it's a matter of time.
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make all current software obsolete with the removal of the registry
Come on, don't be so stupid, really. Think about it - is all the current MS-DOS software obsolete when you run Vista x64? You can't run any DOS software on it? Really? Even through the VM like DosBox? Come oooon! You seem to be technically literate, you know that removing support of museum tech does not necessarily kill ALL the old software right away. We got XP mode now in Win7, remember? Jeez, now I have to teach winzealots basics of their own idol OS, what an irony...
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Let's see if Apple can support all of the different hardware configurations as well as providing functionality for an 800% rise in consumers
They won't and they shouldn't, 'cause consumers buy PCs not because there are 1000000000 million configurations of them. I'm glad that Apple stays away from the idiocy of 1000s of the same parts but with different logos on them. We need the alternative to that to have a healthy competition between these business models (Apple and open PC).
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Battling with Microsoft is putting something on the market that the consumers recognise as superior through their own experience, not through arrogant, petty and false marketing
Everybody markets their products, every PC OEM has ads, so marketing is not a real argument here. There's no principal difference between Apple ads and any other PC OEM ad, so tell your fairy tales to someone else please.


By themaster08 on 7/3/2009 5:21:35 AM , Rating: 2
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MS one is a heavily exploited security hole (conficker - rings any bells?) while Apple one is not.

Here's a nice colourful picture on how to avoid Conficker that even you can understand:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Conficker.svg

If a user is not taking these very fundamental steps anyway then they're simply an idiot.

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Wrong, because on MacBook there are no bottom air intake vents to block. When I block bottom incoming airflow vents on a PC while MacBook still gets its cool air through a keyboard intake - who's gonna win then? PC that has no air intake (blocked at the bottom) or MacBook with normal air intake unaffected by soft surface at the bottom ? Easy question, eh? ;)

Just because there are no bottom vents to block, that doesn't necessarily make it beneficial, particularly on a soft surface.
Whilst the MacBook is getting cool air though a keyboard intake, it'll still be affected by hands getting in the way of airflow, plus the LCD panel will block much of the airflow from that particlar angle.

Not only that, but the surface (hard or soft) will still become heated as air will not be curculating across the bottom and the surface will be insulating the heat, thus having the exact same effect. Regardless of where the intakes are, components will still become extremely hot if the notebook is placed on a soft surface. Period.

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Is being a clone of a most advanced OS a necesarily bad thing? Whole undeground kingdom of clonemakers is making fortunes off the established brands, you know all these Soni, Adibas and other "chinese clones" - so why MS can't get rich the same way too? After all they cloned OS X dock, I liked it actually, but why not go further? I want my drag drop installers, I want my portable application bundles, I want my XML config files instead of MS-DOS registry. Just wait till MS clones this stuff too, it's a matter of time.

"Most advanced OS" is subject to opinion.

Yes it would be a bad thing for Microsoft to clone OSX, because to do that would be discarding their own market. I very much doubt that discarding 90% of the market would be beneficial to anyone.

Sure, these chinese clones make money, but their market share is insignificant. Microsoft has ~90% market share, and that hasn't happened through making clones for 30 years. Perhaps they have taken some ideas from OSX in latter years, but their OS is far from a clone and even you will agree with that one.

Whether you think their OS is dated or not, people buy it. You buy it. I'm sure Microsoft will entirely discard the most popular and profitable software lineup ever, and clone OSX just for you, if you you ask them nicely enough. If you want everything you listed, get a Mac. That's all there is to it.

If you have that much of a problem with Windows, use Linux and run your games through Wine, Cedega or CrossOver

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They won't and they shouldn't, 'cause consumers buy PCs not because there are 1000000000 million configurations of them. I'm glad that Apple stays away from the idiocy of 1000s of the same parts but with different logos on them. We need the alternative to that to have a healthy competition between these business models (Apple and open PC).

They won't and they shouldn't, because they're making more than enough money as it is, without the added hassle of supporting a much wider range of hardware configurations.

So people don't use Windows because it's compatible with their hardware platform? Given the chance, I'm sure OSX would have a much larger user base if it supported the hardware configurations that Windows does.

If you like alternatives then where would the sense be in Microsoft making a clone of OSX?

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every PC OEM has ads, so marketing is not a real argument here. There's no principal difference between Apple ads and any other PC OEM ad, so tell your fairy tales to someone else please.

The only difference being that PC OEM advertisements advertise their own product and usually provide information on specs and other details.

They do not directly, falsely and arrogantly insult the competition to lure in gullible comsumers. But sure, this is just a fairytale. I'm making all of this up.


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