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Past studies have shown that sunspot numbers correspond to warming or cooling trends. The twentieth century has featured heightened activity, indicating a warming trend.  (Source: Wikimedia Commons)

Solar activity has shown a major spike in the twentieth century, corresponding to global warming. This cyclic variation was acknowledged by a recent NASA study, which reviewed a great deal of past climate data.  (Source: Wikimedia Commons)
Report indicates solar cycle has been impacting Earth since the Industrial Revolution

Some researchers believe that the solar cycle influences global climate changes.  They attribute recent warming trends to cyclic variation.  Skeptics, though, argue that there's little hard evidence of a solar hand in recent climate changes.

Now, a new research report from a surprising source may help to lay this skepticism to rest.  A study from
NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland looking at climate data over the past century has concluded that solar variation has made a significant impact on the Earth's climate.  The report concludes that evidence for climate changes based on solar radiation can be traced back as far as the Industrial Revolution.

Past research has shown that the sun goes through eleven year cycles.  At the cycle's peak, solar activity occurring near sunspots is particularly intense, basking the Earth in solar heat.  According to Robert Cahalan, a climatologist at the Goddard Space Flight Center, "Right now, we are in between major ice ages, in a period that has been called the Holocene."

Thomas Woods, solar scientist at the University of Colorado in Boulder concludes, "The fluctuations in the solar cycle impacts Earth's global temperature by about 0.1 degree Celsius, slightly hotter during solar maximum and cooler during solar minimum.  The sun is currently at its minimum, and the next solar maximum is expected in 2012."

According to the study, during periods of solar quiet, 1,361 watts per square meter of solar energy reaches Earth's outermost atmosphere.  Periods of more intense activity brought 1.4 watts per square meter (0.1 percent) more energy.

While the NASA study acknowledged the sun's influence on warming and cooling patterns, it then went badly off the tracks.  Ignoring its own evidence, it returned to an argument that man had replaced the sun as the cause current warming patterns.  Like many studies, this conclusion was based less on hard data and more on questionable correlations and inaccurate modeling techniques.

The inconvertible fact, here is that even NASA's own study acknowledges that solar variation has caused climate change in the past.  And even the study's members, mostly ardent supports of AGW theory, acknowledge that the sun may play a significant role in future climate changes.



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RE: Math???
By stilltrying on 6/4/2009 10:51:17 AM , Rating: 3
Why does carbon levels increase after the temperature increases not vice versa. If it was vice versa you would have a great arguement for man made global warming but since temperature increases precede CO2 increases then that would indicate the sun is more likely the reason for temperature increase.

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RE: Math???
By hlper on 6/4/2009 2:32:37 PM , Rating: 4
Honestly, I knew I was wading into dangerous territory with my post. However, it's an important discussion so I dove in anyhow.

I only advocate being an informed consumer of information on this subject. So, I felt the need to make the point that the people doing the actual climate science are almost unanimous on the fact that we are having some impact on our climate. My other point is that we will never be able to completely tease apart the specific contributions of man vs. nature in the environment. The problem is that everyone has taken such an ideological stance on it that you cannot discuss the issue based on probability (as science does), only on certainty, which no one has.

The only people opposed to accepting some human contribution to climate change are those who are politicians, and those who believe them. Believe me, there is a huge push from powerful, lobbying interests out there to discredit the science, but the information they are feeding the American people is wrong.


RE: Math???
By jimbojimbo on 6/5/09, Rating: 0
RE: Math???
By hlper on 6/4/2009 3:34:41 PM , Rating: 4
So, I checked out the video, and it is exactly an example of what I am talking about. What about CO2? It's fair to say that CO2 has become the poster child of evil greenhouse gasses, but it's not the only one. What about sulphur dioxide, or methane? What about deforestation, which increases ground temperatures, or paving growing areas of land. What about changes in plankton populatons which act as CO2 sinks in the oceans. We can all cherry pick the literature and say, see you can't prove humans are doing anything bad, but that's not critical thinking.

And really, a YouTube video as an arguement? Nice production, I wonder who paid for it and why?


RE: Math???
By clovell on 6/4/2009 4:36:55 PM , Rating: 2
Then regulate sulfur dioxide and not the air I breath.

Wonder who paid for Al Gore's movies...


RE: Math???
By hlper on 6/4/2009 5:21:39 PM , Rating: 3
Spin and missinformation on both sides keeps us all from knowing what the truth is, if there is a truth to know.

And, I don't know who paid for Gore's stuff, but I bet they have something to gain from it too. Oh and environmentalists who want us all to give up civilization and head for the woods ;-)


RE: Math???
By Spuke on 6/4/2009 6:27:25 PM , Rating: 2
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Oh and environmentalists who want us all to give up civilization and head for the woods and be ruled by them ;-)
Fixed that.


RE: Math???
By karkas on 6/5/2009 7:44:52 PM , Rating: 1
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Nice production, I wonder who paid for it and why?


I think it was the BBC or another Gov't funded TV channel.


RE: Math???
By William Gaatjes on 6/6/2009 3:35:52 AM , Rating: 1
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Why does carbon levels increase after the temperature increases not vice versa.


Well, my view is that there is a timedelay. It is a chain of events and co2 is part of that chain. Since these effects take time afcourse you will see some delay. It is even possible there is something like a 180 degrees shift between activity on the sun and some increase of the amount of a particular chemical here on earth. What i am saying is that if something happens on the sun, we do not notice it immidiatetly because a whole chain of events has to occur before we see the effects on co2 levels.

I personally do not believe we are responsible for global warming. But we are however responsible for the pollution of our planet. And that is something we have to address or the lives of future generations of humans and all other life on this planet will have a serious problem.

I will give you an example : when oil companies drill for oil they usually find gas too. Gasses like propane, methane, ethane. They sometimes use these gasses as fuel for local refine processes. But usually the oil companies just let the gas burn off. This is called flaring.

Why you ask the oil companies do this ? Because the oil companies find it to costly to process and sell it and the oil companies just let the gas burn off. The other reason is that there will be to much of this gas for sale on the market driving prices and profits down. While keeping the gasses scarse, the oil companies protect their income.
Now this is the kind of mind set that is just plain wrong.

We are talking about millions of cubic meters of gas that is just burned into the atmosphere. This gas can be used for various chemical processes to create plastics but we can also use it as fuel. There are many applications for these gasses. Now this is just NOT NORMAL !.

Unfortunately a real example of man made pollution.

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