ATI's New Stance On Overclocking
March 30, 2006 12:15 PM
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ATI wants you to overclock. Really, it's OK
Several weeks ago, ATI sent out a few product advisories claiming that AIB partners were free to overclock any GPU in the ATI X1000 series. Last year, ATI made a similar statement about the X1800 cards, but this is officially the first time ATI has openly sanctioned overclocking any current generation board.
ATI's memo claims manufacturers who "creatively brand" hardware to reflect overclocked values may risk getting cut off from ASIC allocation -- so we shouldn't have to worry about X1650XT Super-Extreme-Edition cards flooding the market anytime soon. However, like with NVIDIA cards, we may see more batch-by-batch overclocks on specific cards. NVIDIA has an open policy on manufacturer overclocks, claiming that the manufacturers are responsible for RMAs. On the other hand, they are also are allowed to push clocks as far as they want.
ATI will still impose partner specific "Shipping Clocks" on all of its cards. For example, your PowerColor card may have a higher Shipping Clock than a GeCube card from the same ASIC. The end user may still use tools like Catalyst Control Center to overclock to a maximum clock specified by ATI. Of course, using a third party tool like ATITool is not sanctioned by the company yet, but there is nothing that would prevent you (the end user) from using that either -- yet.
Interestingly enough, the documentation claims that ATI partners are not allowed to
ASICs -- those attempting to get creative with passive cooling will still have to underclock on their own.
ATI claims thermal damage is strictly not covered by RMA and that blown internal fuses in the GPU will notify RMA teams if the GPU has been stressed too hard.
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Nah this screws everyover.
3/31/2006 9:51:46 AM
If you read this carefully all it is saying is that ATI will shipped parts that have been qualified for a faster speed on request (so they can charge more) and that the manufacturers that try to advertise that the clock speed are increased will be screwed over.
So what that means is A.) the incentive for purchasing OC chps because the margin is going to ATI not to them. B.) I don't think ATI manufacturers have ever been allowed to put clock and memory speeds on the packaging so if you don't know better you won't know what speed is what. C.) So this means you will have XTXs that are different but you won't know how different till you pop the card into you computer and run ATI tool.
Eventually we will get it figured out on here. But how many times is someone going to the store and ending up purchasing a slower clocked card that a retailer or manufacturer priced the same as another faster card just because they know that the customer who comes in and buys it will never know the difference.
RE: Nah this screws everyover.
4/4/2006 12:50:00 PM
No, although the news post doesn't stay on topic, it is really about CCC allowing users to overclock their cards with out having to buy a more expensive already overclocked card.
Personally I would like to know how they set the limit on how high you can over clock. Is it just factory specs, or does the CCC check each over clock for stability and temp.
Does anyone know if they started adding thermometers to the GPU Die? I don't think my 9800 Pro has one, but not sure.
"Young lady, in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!" -- Homer Simpson
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