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32-bit and 64-bit versions of Office 2010 Technical Preview leak onto web

Over the past few months, there have been a steady stream of Windows 7 betas and Release Candidate builds littering the internet. Today, it looks as though Microsoft's other software cash cow, Microsoft Office, is getting early exposure to the masses.

DailyTech reported last week that Microsoft plans to offer a Technical Preview of Office 2010 in mid-July to those who preregister. However, there appears to be no need to preregister anymore as both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of the Office 2010 Technical Preview have leaked onto the internet in torrent form.

Both builds are readily available by doing a simple Google search and don't appear to need a registration key to install.

Those familiar with Office 2007 will likely feel right at home with the Office 2010 Technical Preview. If you hated the ribbon in the 2007 version, things don't get much better in 2010 as the interface is here to stay. For users already running Windows 7, startup times for Office 2010 appear to be much quicker than Office 2007 which should be a welcome addition to heavy Office users.

Microsoft is aiming for a H1 2010 release for Office 2010, so the Technical Preview should be sufficient for most tinkerers until that time arrives.



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RE: Urgh
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 5/17/2009 2:41:20 PM , Rating: 2
Well for one thing, Office 2010 jump lists are now integrated with Windows 7 (not that I use the jump lists anyway).


RE: Urgh
By quiksilvr on 5/17/2009 3:15:03 PM , Rating: 2
I like it! They are sticking with the new ribbon interface (which takes getting used to but once you do you wonder how you managed without it) and hopefully will optimize it even further.


RE: Urgh
By Motoman on 5/17/2009 5:22:21 PM , Rating: 2
...unless, like me, you tried to work with it for a year before bailing and going back to a useful interface - the menu bar.

There will be no new MS Office around here if the ribbon interface is the only one available.


RE: Urgh
By quiksilvr on 5/17/2009 6:10:22 PM , Rating: 4
Oh you mean this:
http://softwareindustrialization.com/content/binar...

Yeah, cuz that's so much more organized and easier to use than this:
http://www.gomeler.com/pic/Articles/Microsoft%20Of...

I mean, where do I go for page layout? The PAGE LAYOUT tab? Where do I go to insert WordArt, shapes, equations and symbols? Oh, the INTSERT tab? Where do I go for spell checking and word count and how do I put in comments? The REVIEW tab?

Either you barely used it for the entire year and didn't catch on to how much more organized and sensible the new interface is or you are just too stubborn to accept the change.


RE: Urgh
By inighthawki on 5/17/2009 6:26:55 PM , Rating: 4
From my experience there are two types of people. Those who look at something new, think "This looks kinda cool" and use it (usually like it) and those who look at something and the first thought is "omg, change, i don't want to use it". The latter people have a mind set on not wanting to use it, and it's this exact thought that consistently makes it impossible to actually like it because they're extremely stubborn and in the back of their mind they WANT to not like it.

From all of the people i've seen mention it, those who like it are the ones who thought itd be ok, and those who dont are the ones that keep saying they hate it even before trying it.


RE: Urgh
By reader1 on 5/17/09, Rating: -1
RE: Urgh
By DeepBlue1975 on 5/17/2009 8:18:33 PM , Rating: 5
Not just those 2 types.

In between you have reasonable people, who will look at something new, weigh its cost against its new features and how beneficial those new features can be, and based on those factors decide if they want the new product or not.

I have as much of a gripe against "change is bad" kind of people, as for those that happily accept every single change even if the change actually has a negative/or null impact on their usage scenario and the upgrade cost is quite steep.

Not everything that's new is better fit for everyone's usage pattern.

As for me, I usually try all the new stuff just out of pure curiosity, being an IT guy I can hardly resist to install the newest out there and "feel it". Sometimes the new girl on the block sticks, sometimes it goes to a shelf and leaves place to a better loved old one, but I can't avoid trying :D


RE: Urgh
By thartist on 5/17/2009 6:59:06 PM , Rating: 2
you've argumented reinterpreting your interlocutor's words for the worst case, sabotaging it's validity.

very low and cheap from you.

Moving on, it certainly took some adaptation but i got used to the ribbon, and i think that it is conceptually closer to the way the user thinks when doing his work, so i approve.
BUT, it's not uncertain that it looks messy on it's own new way, because of the different amount and shape of space that the commands and options take in the menus, so it's visually more uneven (which doesn't happen with the Menus system) but well, in the end it works better.


RE: Urgh
By quiksilvr on 5/18/2009 1:54:15 AM , Rating: 5
Using a bunch of unnecessary big words to sound smart there, are we?

And it's not low and cheap when the opposing side simply said they used it and didn't like it without reasons as to why they didn't like it. If there is no explanation, then I'll tear it to bits with my counter argument. Welcome to the commentator world. Get used to it.


RE: Urgh
By Motoman on 5/17/2009 7:42:02 PM , Rating: 2
Way to catastrophize things, sparky.

And your argument goes both ways...where do I go to change formats? Hmm, maybe the Format menu?

As for the other comments about some people being resistant to change because they fear it...well, there certainly are those people out there, but I'm not one of them. I was totally jazzed to try out the ribbon thing, granted all the hype there was around it. Then I couldn't find the things I needed...really mind-bendingly obvious things that weren't on the ribbons, like Open and Save As, etc.

Anyway, we've had this discussion before on DT. Some people like the ribbon - knock yourselves out. I gave it an honest year, and went from jazzed to "eff this" in that time and switched back to 2003.

PS - there hasn't been an "enhancement" to a word processor that's been valuable to me, or the vast majority of users, since probably WYSIWYG. Pure bloat.


RE: Urgh
By StevoLincolnite on 5/18/2009 12:50:58 AM , Rating: 1
I don't see why they just don't create an option so people can use the regular interface or the ribbon interface, would solve all arguments then.

Personally I like the old interface, when you have used it for 10 or more years it is hard to change, I got my granny onto Office 2007 to do her letters etc' I don't think I have had so many phone calls in my life after I did that software upgrade! However she loves it, I don't think she coul go back to the old style anymore.


RE: Urgh
By PrezWeezy on 5/18/2009 3:12:48 PM , Rating: 2
Your reason for saying that is because you obviously don't use any of the advanced features. I used to teach classes about using Office 2000-2003, so I really knew the old interface. I switched to 2007 in 3 days. It took me about 20 minutes to realize how much more effectively the ribbon was laid out.

Any "file" operations are done with the office button. Stupid name, I liked the File menu for that particular instance, but it still makes sense.

Open and save as can be added to the quick menu with two mouse clicks as well. If all you do is type in the same format, with the same font it doesn't help you. If you do anything else with it (i.e. writing presentations/proposals) you'd be crazy not to love the fact that you've reduced your max mouse click to 3 from 45.

You have to think about the ribbon as being something you do within the file you are using. The Office Button are things you are doing to the container (or file) you are working with. You want to open a new document, not on the ribbon because it's not something within the current document. You want to save, not on the ribbon. It is much more logical.


RE: Urgh
By kkwst2 on 5/17/2009 7:46:03 PM , Rating: 2
Except that there are key commands missing from the Ribbon, and no built-in way to customize it. So I have to add stuff to that little top bar.

I don't hate the ribbon, but why can't I customize it by default? That seems like a step back, since I could customize the toolbars pretty easily. I would have to buy an addon for that.


RE: Urgh
By Motoman on 5/17/2009 7:55:13 PM , Rating: 2
Yup. That is mind-boggling. What is also mind-boggling is that MS didn't allow the user to choose between the ribbon or the regular menu interface. Would have made it a lot easier for more people to use their product.


RE: Urgh
By callmeroy on 5/18/2009 2:05:29 PM , Rating: 2
I agree....I have '07 at work but '03 at home.. honestly, I had no issues understanding and working with the "old" menu driven system...maybe my brain works and remembers things in a weird way but the old menu system was actually EASIER and more efficient for ME.

I'm making due with the ribbon system but meh---- I'd much love the option to chose which UI I use in the newer office applications.


RE: Urgh
By ImSpartacus on 5/17/2009 8:37:04 PM , Rating: 2
That's why you have that quick launch toolbar thing. That is your customized toolbar. Personally, I put insert symbol, and insert textbox (along with obvious buttons). I hated having to switch tabs to use those two functions. Putting them on the top toolbar solved my problem totally.

I have been using the ribbon since Office 2007 beta. It was hard as hell to get used to. Took me about two months to really feel at home. However, once that occurred I... uhh... really felt at home.

Overall, it's change. Good and bad. Some like it, some don't.


RE: Urgh
By Ozziedogg on 5/21/2009 5:47:40 PM , Rating: 3
Todays quiz:

Spot which of the above posts is from the Microsoft Employee.


RE: Urgh
By Justin Time on 5/17/2009 8:40:46 PM , Rating: 2
If you are stuck in the Office-2003 menu mode thinking, then here is the best Office 2007 solution I've seen.

http://www.addintools.com/english/menuoffice/defau...


RE: Urgh
By Motoman on 5/17/2009 9:59:27 PM , Rating: 2
I'd actually seen that...but I wouldn't pay more money to make Office 2007 usable. Easier just to go back to 2003, and not miss any of the new features anyway. If it weren't that the whole world works on .doc format, WordPad would be plenty for all I ever need to do in a word processor...


RE: Urgh
By yxalitis on 5/17/2009 10:28:39 PM , Rating: 2
Perhaps sir would prefer our new product aimed for your mind set.
It's called Notepad, we hope it suffuces.
If you find that too challenging to learn, we fully understand, in that case we offer you this...it's called an Etch A-sketch, we can provide training for you if you like...


RE: Urgh
By Motoman on 5/17/2009 11:06:16 PM , Rating: 3
That's very funny...your mom would be quite proud, I'm sure, of your biting wit.

The fact of the matter is, virtually none of the functionality of a modern word processor is used by the vast majority of users. Very, very few people have the slightest use for anyting but the most basic functionality.

I'd bet big money that less than 5% of the consumer market has evern done anything as nifty as a mail merge. Paragraph formatting, font stuff, spell check. Pretty much it for the vast majority of users.


RE: Urgh
By teohhanhui on 5/18/2009 12:01:06 AM , Rating: 2
That's exactly why the "ribbon" came to be: to better expose the functions hidden (nested) within menus to users. Once you get used to it it could improve your efficiency.


RE: Urgh
By Motoman on 5/18/2009 12:50:46 AM , Rating: 2
...you miss the point. The point isn't that it's hard to find excess functionality...frankly, excess functionality gets in the way. Exposing more functionality would only make things worse for the average user...and as has been noted, the ribbon hid basic functionality anyway, making the worse of all possible worlds.


RE: Urgh
By yxalitis on 5/18/2009 2:18:15 AM , Rating: 2
I am stunned, quite stunned, that after a solid 12 months use, the ability to customise the "Quick Access Tollbar" was beyond your comprehension.
Yes, print, save as..., print preview were not right there on the main toolbar, but for crying out loud, there's a down-arrow to the right, which leads directly to the customise window.
And eposing more functionality came about as a result of a survey Microsoft undertook, seeking input into what features user's would most like to see in the next version of Office. Most of the requests were for features that already existed, but because they were hidden from view, these "average users" did not know about them.
The changes came about as a direct result of beta tester's inputs and suggestions.
So why you persist in climbing on board your soap box every single time DT do an Office article is beyond me. You don't like it, fine, keep it to your self.
The rest of us will get on using a superior product.


RE: Urgh
By Motoman on 5/18/2009 10:40:54 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, and Burger King's french fries were chosen based on customer research focus groups...and they suck.

I did in fact find the little bit to customize the quick access thing. Aside from the fact that it's retarded that a consumer would have to "customize" their interface to have "advanced" features like Print and Save As on it ("oh, we won't bother to expose those on the Ribbon - who ever needs those functions?"), on the rare occasion that I wanted to do something else, I couldn't find it anyway.

And, on top of that, the ribbon takes up more screen space than the menu bar and th single line of toolbars that I need.

As for:

quote:
So why you persist in climbing on board your soap box every single time DT do an Office article is beyond me. You don't like it, fine, keep it to your self. The rest of us will get on using a superior product.


Well, I'm not the only one that feels this way, and I think it's important to keep a balanced outlook on the new "superior products" that are coming out. Which, by the way, is a bit of a strawman there, since "superior product" is definitely in the eye of the beholder (or rather, the hand of the mouseholder). Something that is new is not automatically better than something that is old.


RE: Urgh
By Ozziedogg on 5/21/2009 5:52:39 PM , Rating: 3
Today on dailytech:

motoman points most people use wordpad to type letters. MS employees try to justify office bloat.


RE: Urgh
By FranksAndBeans on 5/18/2009 8:38:59 AM , Rating: 2
+1

I have to use 2007 at work, and dislike it. I think 2007 is great for casual users because the ribbon system likely does make it easier for newer users to figure things out.

However I use it everyday for fairly standard office/engineering tasks, and though I've managed to get somewhat used to it, I have no doubt that the 2007 system is less efficient for many common tasks than prior versions. If I have to click even 1 more time to complete a remedial task like formatting a chart axis, that is a loss of efficiency to me, and there are MANY cases where what used to take 2 clicks now takes 3 or 4.

2007 may be better for the majority but MS kinda screwed folks that were already well trained with the software. It doesn't make sense to me to make the more in-depth items slower to use in hopes that they get more exposure to basic users.


RE: Urgh
By yxalitis on 5/20/2009 11:50:04 PM , Rating: 2
So called "power users" should be using hotkeys in anycase, no power user's hands leave the keyboard to go over to the mouse, as it introduces a slow down.The WP department in one company I used to work for had a rule that they weren't allowed to have a mouse at all, it significantly reduced the wpm of the user.


RE: Urgh
By TomZ on 5/17/2009 4:56:44 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
not that I use the jump lists anyway
Wow, "jump list rebellion"!


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