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The Arrow missile, seen here during its launch, successfully intercepted a ballistic missile that simulated Iran's most advanced possible future warhead. Israel says it's ready to shoot down nukes and traditional missiles from Iran and others.  (Source: AP)
"Bring it on," says Israel

While the 90s saw a time of relative peace, with the Iraq war and the escalate tensions with Iran, Israel is staying alert and preparing for any kind of assault.  The Israeli Air Force just wrapped up the 17th test of its new missile defense system and is confident that it can now shoot down any ballistic nuclear missiles that Iran or others could shoot at it.

The Palmahim Base launched an Arrow interceptor at a Blue Sparrow Missile, fired from an F-15 fighter jet.  The missile was designed to mimic an Iranian Shihab 3 missile, the kind of missile that Israel expects Iran to potentially use as a nuclear weapon delivery platform.  The Blue Sparrow has a split warhead and advanced radar-evading capabilities.  While the Shihab 3 ballistic missile currently lacks these capabilities, it is believed that Iran is working to develop them.  The test was jointly conducted by the IAF and the U.S. Missile Defense Agency.

An integral part of the new missile defense system is its new Green Pine radar system.  This highly accurate radar system was deployed to the Negev Desert in 2008.

Brig.-Gen. Daniel Milo, commander of the IAF's Air Defense Division said that the test's success, despite poor visibility, was a testament to the readiness of the country's missile defense program.  He states, "The Arrow technology is always improving, and we cannot forget that the enemy is also advancing with its capabilities."

It is unclear how well the system will work against Iran's latest missile, though -- the Sajjil.  The Sajjil is Iran's first solid fuel rocket.  Solid fuel allows the rocket to have a much greater accuracy than the previous liquid designs.  The missile has a range of 2,000 km.  Iran also has a stockpile of several BM25 intercontinental missiles which it purchased four or more years ago from North Korea.

The Arrow is also exceptionally effective against the Syrian Scud D, which is capable of delivering traditional and nontraditional payloads to anywhere in Israel.  Defense Minister Ehud Barak called the test "another achievement for Israel on its way to obtaining a multi-level missile defense system, starting with the Iron Dome to defend against short-range rockets, and to the Arrow."

The Israel missile defense system helps provide valuable test data to help the U.S. develop and improve its own missile shield.  The U.S., like Israel, claims its missile defense shield to be active and ready to destroy any nuclear threat.



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By lukasbradley on 4/9/2009 10:18:09 AM , Rating: 5
If Israel operated in a vacuum, your point might be valid.

However, Israel does not operate in a vacuum. The Arrow missile was funded almost completely by the United States starting in the late 80s. The missile was fired from an F-15, which was also donated as a part of US aid. The vast majority of Israel's military technological prowess is a direct result of the donations from countries.

The United States reacted with great vigor at Cuba being armed by the USSR. Other middle eastern nations have had the same concern at Israel's bolstered status.

I'm not condoning anything here. What I'm trying to elicit is the situation is much, much more complex than Country A defending itself from evil Country B.


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By omnicronx on 4/9/2009 10:31:36 AM , Rating: 3
Israel buys most of its weapons from the US, they are not merely given away. They have a huge budget for a country of their size, mainly from the millions upon millions of dollars in donations from Jews in the US and around the world. Not to mention even if other Middle eastern countries gain nuclear capabilities, they will still have a larger stockpile than all middle eastern countries combined for a long time. They also have a large amount of highly trained ground forces, as all citizens over the age of 18 must serve a minimum of 3 years for men, and 2 years for woman.

As the OP said, Israel is not a country to mess with, if backed into a corner, they could turn pretty much any middle eastern nation into a crater.


By lukasbradley on 4/9/2009 10:42:38 AM , Rating: 2
Drastically incorrect. The majority of US arms are received as grants. The loan component of the FMF was phased out years ago.


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By omnicronx on 4/9/2009 1:02:32 PM , Rating: 5
Military Aid from the US only accounts for 20% of their annual military spending, they bought 6 billion dollars worth of arms from the US during the first five years of the Bush administration alone, not to mention the billions of dollars in contracts with US weapons manufacturers such as Lockheed Martin, Raytheon(they manufacture Tomahawk and sidewinder missiles) and Boeing.

Furthermore only 70% of the US aid is spent on US weaponry.
If you think the majority of their weaponry is paid for with US tax dollars, you would be wrong.


By lukasbradley on 4/9/2009 5:25:06 PM , Rating: 1
You are perverting statistics, and what I stated. Please explain the US$14.516B of grants and financing through the Foreign Military Financing program during the 2001-2005 years and how it relates to the US$6B in purchases.

If you have trouble in doing so, I can help you understand it.


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By Joz on 4/9/2009 10:35:51 AM , Rating: 2
While you are technicaly correct in some aspects, currently Israel devolops and uses more if its own technology.
A small list would be:
Merkava tank
Galil
Travor
Desert Eagle
Jericho
GALAT'Z
Uzi (and all its lovely lovely lovely differnt forms.)
Corner Shot
Several flavors of automated and remote control weapons platforms for ships, tanks and other sea/land vehicles.

Personaly, my favorites are the Merkava, Travor and the Corner Shot.


By therealnickdanger on 4/9/2009 10:43:10 AM , Rating: 3
I'm not nit-picking your list, I'm just sharing this because I just learned this over the weekend:

The Desert Eagle is and always has been invented/designed right here in Minneapolis by Magnum Research. All DEs used to be manufactured in Israel, but that contract recently ended and they will soon no longer build them. This according to a Magnum Research rep at a gun show I just went to. (I also fired the deagle while I was there - awesome!)


By lukasbradley on 4/9/2009 10:45:05 AM , Rating: 1
I never insinuated all of their military technology is acquired from foreign sources.

However, I find it funny that most of your examples are arms either designed by US companies or as join ventures with US companies.


By Joz on 4/9/2009 12:14:25 PM , Rating: 3
Not to nitpick you guys, but most of the stuff I listed is primarly developed in Israel, sometime is devoloped in copperation with other nations and companies, and some of it is requested in design by Israel. But otherwise, they are Isareli designed/used or otherwise exlusively contracted by Israel.

And please, dont insult me by saying "so and so" and "such and such" I served two years voulunteer duty in the IDF, varius rolls.


By Chillin1248 on 4/9/2009 5:26:58 PM , Rating: 3
Many yes.

As a IDF soldier I personally find that my favorite/reliable weapons are made by the U.S.A.; M4A1, M24, M240 and HMWWV... Scratch the last one.

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Chillin


By Yaron on 4/10/2009 5:27:40 AM , Rating: 2
Shalom shalom
Just for kicks :)

You still in the army or in reserve?


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By Chaser on 4/9/2009 4:01:25 PM , Rating: 3
Israel wants to live in peace and be left alone. But sadly that doesn't happen. Rocket launches daily from Gaza mostly is a sad reality that rarely gets reported by most news agencies.
quote:
The United States reacted with great vigor at Cuba being armed by the USSR. Other middle eastern nations have had the same concern at Israel's bolstered status.

What?


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By andrinoaa on 4/9/2009 4:51:03 PM , Rating: 2
Too bad the Palestinians had to ruin the party. How dare they want recognition of their plite! How dare they want to go back to their parents homes and olive groves, yes how dare they! The irony is that over the past 60yrs , so much money and energy has been wasted in fighting. Imagine if the Palestinians were compensated and included, how much we ALL could have saved. What a bloody waste it has been and looks to be for the forseeable future. Yes "Mondo Cane" !


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By Goty on 4/9/09, Rating: -1
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By Mk4ever on 4/9/2009 9:11:43 PM , Rating: 3
???

I don't know what kind of sources may give or lead you to such conclusions, but I ask you, please read a lot more about the issue you are talking about before posting.


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By Goty on 4/10/2009 12:56:25 AM , Rating: 2
I've done plenty of research. Israel was formed out of the British Mandate of Palestine, which was simply land parceled out to Britain by the League of Nations after the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire following WWI. "Palestine", as the region between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River was called, became Israel (an Arab majority state) and the Transjordan became the country of Jordan. So, the land you claim was a Palestinian state went through three distinct phases in the last century: First it was part of the Ottoman Empire, then it was a British territory, and then it became the free state of Israel.

Now, where exactly in that entire century was Israel EVER a Palestinian state? "Palestinians" only exist because they are the people who inhabited the geographical region known as Palestine and decided to not call themselves Israelites after the state they lived in was dissolved following WWI.


By Chaser on 4/10/2009 9:00:47 AM , Rating: 2
Reality check. Thank you.


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By Wierdo on 4/10/2009 12:28:03 PM , Rating: 4
Palestine always existed as a land where Arab muslims, christins, and jews co-existed. The european jews came in with major external funds and bought land from the native farmers, then they excluded the local populations from their industries, which caused friction. It's like if rich mexicans came to Texas during the depression, bought all the land and then treated Non-mexican Texans like N*'s.

But that's that past, the current problem is that the Israeli goverment currently consists of only right (two-state solution, and ethnic cleansing to move Israeli Arabs into the second state) and extreme right (no two state solution and more land grabs) so that means we'll be subsidizing them for perpetual regional instability for another generation at least.


By Guttersnipe on 4/12/2009 2:47:43 AM , Rating: 2
wishful thinking, it was a place where from time to time they'd mob and kill each other. its why jews banded together to form protective militias which were the seeds of the future military forces during the first war.

as for the rest...the muslims can talk about israel with less hypocrisy when they give the kurds their own state. right now the turks, iranians, iraqis don't even mention a word about a two state solution. it is how it is when only things matter when jews are involved.


By smitty3268 on 4/10/2009 12:06:29 AM , Rating: 4
So if the government came and bulldozed your house down, then gave the land to some wealthy Muslims to build a new house, you'd be fine with that?

I mean, it's not your land. Eminent domain says that it's the governments land. You didn't lose anything, you never owned it because the government says you didn't.

Seriously, now, there's a lot of bullshit going on in the middle east. People on both sides see it as their sacred duty to drive out the other side and reclaim their holy land. We've sided with Israel in the conflict because they're more Westernized and more similar to us. There's nothing wrong with that, but let's not try to pretend that the situation is simpler than it really is. Nothing is ever black and white.


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