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North Korea attempted to launch a ballistic missile, from a site seen here, this morning. The launch failed, raining debris on the Sea of Japan. North Korea insists the launch was legal, but President Obama condemned the launch, saying it is in violation of international laws.  (Source: Digital Globe/ISIS)

North Korea claimed the missile's payload reached orbit, but it was caught in a lie by U.S. intelligence. The satellite, which was to broadcast anthems praising North Korea's dictator, crashed to Earth when second stage separation failed.  (Source: QuiNews)
North Korea claims satellite reached orbit, U.S. intelligence states otherwise

North Korea recently announced that it was pursuing a "peaceful" space launch, which it claims was within its rights under international law.  However, officials in the U.S. and South Korea believed that North Korea had far more sinister intentions -- testing its Taepodong-2 launch vehicle, which could deploy nuclear or traditional payloads to the U.S. or Japan

North Korea tried its first Taepodong-2 test in July 2006, only to meet with failure.  Months later, it rocked the world of foreign diplomacy when it carried out a nuclear test.  Talks between the U.S., South Korea, Japan, Russia, and China over North Korea's nuclear disarmament are currently stalled.

Eager to try its hand at another Taepodong-2 test, North Korea launched one over the weekend, only to fail once again according to the BBC.  North Korea's state run media at first reported that the satellite payload, named "Kwangmyongsong-2", had successfully reached orbit and was transmitting data, including the "Song of General Kim Il-sung" and "Song of General Kim Jong-il" -- national anthems praising North Korea's former leader, and his son, the current leader of North Korea.

However, U.S. intelligence quickly contradicted these reports, announcing that the missile failed during the second stage of separation on the three-stage rocket, occurring at approximately 0230 GMT.  North Korea's failed attempt scattered debris on the Sea of Japan and the Pacific.  Describes U.S. intelligence, "Stage one of the missile fell into the Sea of Japan/East Sea. The remaining stages along with the payload itself landed in the Pacific Ocean.  No object entered orbit and no debris fell on Japan."

U.S. officials "assessed the space launch vehicle as not a threat to North America or Hawaii and took no action in response to this launch," according to a statement.  The U.S. and Japan have a joint functional missile shield, which could have been deployed, had the launch been considered a threat.  The U.S., EU, Japan and South Korea all condemned the failed launch attempt.

Speaking to a crowd in the Czech capital, Prague, President Barack Obama, stated, "North Korea broke the rules once more by testing a rocket that could be used for a long-range missile.  This provocation underscores the need for action - not just this afternoon at the UN Security Council, but in our determination to prevent the spread of these weapons."

In particular, he says the launch clearly violates Security Council resolution 1718 adopted in October 2006, which bans North Korea from carrying out ballistic missile activity.  China and Russia, both former allies of North Korea, urged the U.S. and others to be conservative in their response to the violation.



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Resolution 1718
By Goty on 4/6/2009 1:06:13 PM , Rating: 5
It doesn't matter one iota that North Korea violated any UN resolution because the organization is a complete failure. What's the point of passing these resolutions if you take no action when someone violates it?

The lack of action on behalf of the UN serves to do nothing but make violators more bold in their defiance.




RE: Resolution 1718
By EricMartello on 4/6/09, Rating: 0
RE: Resolution 1718
By MrBungle123 on 4/6/2009 1:42:05 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
We should continue weapon development with the intent of blowing beings that are not of this Earth!


porn?


RE: Resolution 1718
By tmouse on 4/7/2009 7:40:56 AM , Rating: 2
Why just for beings not of this Earth ?

It's always good to take a few moments to look for these SNAFUs before posting. In two days we had people peeing in your home and now weapons to blow beings who are not of this earth....

On second thought keep it up it breaks up the day ; )


RE: Resolution 1718
By tmouse on 4/7/2009 8:47:38 AM , Rating: 2
Not to get too far OT but you may be on to something here. The development of an "O" bomb could revolutionize modern warfare. Imagine detonating one of these over a battlefield of enemy combatants... after 5-10 minutes of continual reactions all of them would either want to take a nap or get a sandwich. Your would even eliminate the need to worry about collateral damage since civilians might not even mind being caught in the "blast". Sounds like a potential D.O.D. grant to me.


RE: Resolution 1718
By Slappi on 4/7/2009 7:44:56 AM , Rating: 3
Alien porn?

Hmmmm.....

You might have something here.


RE: Resolution 1718
By DNAgent on 4/7/2009 8:16:08 AM , Rating: 2
MMMMmmmmm.....tentacles.....


RE: Resolution 1718
By Ammohunt on 4/6/2009 1:34:37 PM , Rating: 1
I think you apply too much significance to the UN. I would guess there are more sympathies on the security council toward NK than to any western interests. The UN has outlived its usefulness its time for a organization comprised only of free democracies.


RE: Resolution 1718
By Suntan on 4/6/2009 2:07:49 PM , Rating: 1
Distancing ourselves from countries that think differently than us was tried already. Think – after WWII up until the late 80s…

No long term good will come from marginalizing a group of people on the world stage.

There needs to be a better vehicle for getting the world’s main players to work together. Not just a mindset along the lines of “Russia keeps thinking differently than us so we should boot them out of our club or start a new one.”

There needs to be a method to make all countries give a damn about things. From the self centered mindset of the likes of America and Japan in this instance, to the backwards mindset of Russia, to the totally disinterested mindset of “neutral” countries like Ireland.

It’s sad that in this era of “global this” and “uniform standards” that, nobody world wide really gives a crap about the disservice being portrayed on the NK People by a relatively small group of leaders.

All of the above aside, you can’t blame North Korea for making hay while the sun is shining. (Read: ignoring national defense because he is busy getting his multitude of new entitlement programs up and running.)

-Suntan


RE: Resolution 1718
By Goty on 4/6/2009 2:33:15 PM , Rating: 2
How are Japan's and the United States' responses at all self-centered when they're concerned about a country of questionable morals obtaining the means to slaughter millions of people?

Also, there is no disservice being done to the people of North Korea, only to its leaders and government. How you can even attempt to marginalize the actions of North Korea over the past few years is completely beyond me.


RE: Resolution 1718
By Suntan on 4/6/2009 3:48:31 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
How are Japan's and the United States' responses at all self-centered when they're concerned about a country of questionable morals obtaining the means to slaughter millions of people?


Because NK developing the capability to land nuclear weapons on American, Japanese or South Korean soil will directly impact America and Japan (and South Korea but they were not mentioned in the previous post) more so than the rest of the world. Therefore, we have more of a vested interest in stopping that from happening than most other countries.

The reality is that America and Japan would barely even pay lip service to NK if intelligence showed that NK had no real interest of ever doing anything outside of its own borders and only wanted to continue repressing its own people. Sorry, but that’s reality.

Just because America and Japan are motivated because it personally benefits them, it doesn’t mean it is the wrong course of action.

And let’s not forget, NK already has the means to slaughter millions of people… ..there own.

quote:
Also, there is no disservice being done to the people of North Korea, only to its leaders and government.


The relatively small group of leaders I was talking about *was* the NK government. The “disservice” is being done to the NK people in that they are being made to live a repressed lifestyle more akin to centuries past. I was not referring to the US or Japanese government there.

quote:
How you can even attempt to marginalize the actions of North Korea over the past few years is completely beyond me.


I was not marginalizing anything. You miss-read my post.

I would add though that to insinuate that their actions “over the past few years” is in any way more deplorable than their actions have been for many, many years is to once again take the purely selfish stance that only the things that directly effect places like the US or Japan are the activities that are considered “deplorable.”

-Suntan


RE: Resolution 1718
By Nfarce on 4/6/2009 3:39:44 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It doesn't matter one iota that North Korea violated any UN resolution because the organization is a complete failure.


Touché. Just look at the success stories of their so-called "Human Rights" Council:

"The Council's most recent session saw the body voting to end its mandate to investigate the Democratic Republic of the Congo, even as that nation lurches into ethnic bloodshed. A Pakistani resolution against "defamation of religions" passed with ease despite being universally decried by human rights groups as a thinly veiled effort to curtail freedom of expression and suppress minority sects...According to Human Rights Watch, at least 26 other countries -- including China, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Zimbabwe -- have been ignored by the Council."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123897440836691053...


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