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Q3 2009 Launch

Intel's has 32nm plans with Clarkdale and Arrandale for the mainstream value segment, but enthusiasts who are looking for quad core performance at a reasonable price will look at Lynnfield and Clarksfield instead.

Lynnfield is the mainstream 45nm quad core variant of the Core i7, featuring 8MB of L3 cache and an on-die dual-channel DDR3 controller. Based on Nehalem, it is targeted at the mainstream performance segment, and uses a new LGA-1156 socket that is incompatible with the Core i7's LGA-1366 socket.

With new sockets will come new chipsets. Intel will expand their 5 series of chipsets with new models for consumers and businesses. All Nehalem and Westmere based products use DDR3.

The Q57 chipset, codenamed Piketon, is targeted at businesses, while the P55 chipset, codenamed Kings Creek, is targeted at consumers.

Kings Creek will be supplemented in Q1 2010 by the P57. Both will have support for two external 8-lane PCIe graphics. They are supposed to be in the Performance mainstream segment.

Neither USB 3.0, SATA 6Gb/s, PCIe 3.0, or ECC memory support were on the list of features that DailyTech received, although this may change in the future.

Clarksfield is the mobile version of Lynnfield for laptops. It uses the Capella Platform with a new chipset codenamed Ibex-Peak M. As with the current Centrino 2 platform, wireless internet will be available through an 802.11n Wi-Fi module (Puma Peak) or a WiMAX chipset (Kilmer Peak).

DailyTech has received information that Lynnfield and Clarksfield may be replaced by quad core Westmere variants in the middle of 2010. Intel refuses to comment on unannounced products, although they did state that "additional 32nm products will follow in 2010".

The timing couldn't be better, as Windows 7 is slated to launch at around the same time. It will have many features, including improved usage of multiple cores.



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Why?
By michaelheath on 2/10/2009 7:13:47 PM , Rating: 3
So, let me get this straight: Intel's mainstream strategy includes gimping the i7 by changing memory controller (dual channel DDR3 instead of triple channel) and calling their new creation the i5, giving it a new socket that's not compatible with the existing i7/X58 boards because of said memory controller change, create consumer chipsets for the new socket that aren't any better than what's out there now (P55/Q57), and delay a performance enthusiast chipset (P57) to Q1 2010, which may or may not contain any decent features that would be worth upgrading for?

Who are they expecting to buy this again?




RE: Why?
By Shig on 2/10/2009 7:27:28 PM , Rating: 4
i7 was never meant for the mainstream, i5 is.

i5 is much cheaper to produce than i7 as well. They changed the entire legacy design as well. The P55/57 chipset is 2 chips, not 3 like X58 and i7 is.

The i5's also have the graphics lanes directly hooked to the CPU, we may see better graphics performance with them.


RE: Why?
By JackPack on 2/10/2009 8:42:49 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
Who are they expecting to buy this again?


Anybody who doesn't want to pay $200 for an 8-layer motherboard due to i7's triple-channel controller and the cost of a triple DDR3 kit.

Basically, the mainstream segment?


RE: Why?
By michaelheath on 2/11/2009 7:11:36 AM , Rating: 2
Perhaps I should clarify: I am the mainstream market, and I don't see any sense in stratifying processor sockets. As a mainstream consumer, technological longevity is equally as important as performance. Telling me that if I want to upgrade from a P45 motherboard I have to choose between socket 1156 and 1366, you're basically asking me to take a crap-shot at what socket has the longer upgrade path.

As of right now, I have to wait 6 months before I find out what kind of performance i5 has, another year before a chipset worth a damn comes out, all while Core i7/X58 matures, solidifies a position in the market, and gradually drops in price.


RE: Why?
By JackPack on 2/11/2009 4:31:35 PM , Rating: 2
It's pretty clear (in my opinion) that 1366 will have longer life than 1156.

1366 is designed to handle at least 6-cores and the associated power requirements as well as the memory bandwidth for a GPU.


RE: Why?
By Chemical Chris on 2/10/2009 8:54:50 PM , Rating: 2
This is what happens when AMD isn't competitive. And....cue the fanbois.
But seriously, a competitive AMD means a competetive Intel. They could have done this a long time ago, but there was no pressure. So, they can operate at relatively fat margins, instead of reducing profit to maintain marketshare.
IE, a wafer today might get 40% yield, but in three months, it will be 70%. If they can still use the old technology with 95% yield, there's no reason to switch right away. Unless the old ones get creamed by the competition, and the only way to be competitive is to use the newer, less efficient process.
We need a strong Intel and strong AMD in order for the consumer to get a reasonable deal. If AMD had remained competetive after the A64 honeymoon bliss wore off, we would have had the i5 within 1-3 months of the i7, much as AMD had S754 and S940 introduced near-simultaneously with the introduction of the A64.

Personally, Ive been chugging along with a dual core Opteron 165 @ 2.7ghz for 2.5yrs now (bought just before core2duo came out), and I have the itch again. I want the peak performance offered by Intel, but money is an issue, and Im thrilled to have AMD competetive at most 'sane' pricepoints. I havent decided yet, however.....

ChemC


RE: Why?
By taisingera on 2/10/2009 9:02:36 PM , Rating: 2
Looks like Mainstream will get screwed over until mid 2010 as there won't be quad core 32nm until Westmere. The mainstream 32nm will be dual core with integrated graphics until then.


RE: Why?
By just4U on 2/11/2009 5:01:48 AM , Rating: 4
I wouldn't go that far. The 9X/8X/7X from intel is decent enough and Amd's new lineup is quite competitive with that. I honestly don't see any need for the "MAINSTREAM" to even move past that at this point. Hardware is so far ahead of software (in most areas) right now it's not even funny.


RE: Why?
By Reclaimer77 on 2/14/2009 5:45:45 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
So, let me get this straight: Intel's mainstream strategy includes gimping the i7 by changing memory controller (dual channel DDR3 instead of triple channel) and calling their new creation the i5, giving it a new socket that's not compatible with the existing i7/X58 boards because of said memory controller change, create consumer chipsets for the new socket that aren't any better than what's out there now (P55/Q57), and delay a performance enthusiast chipset (P57) to Q1 2010, which may or may not contain any decent features that would be worth upgrading for? Who are they expecting to buy this again?


You AMD fanbois have to be the most ignorant bunch here.

It would take too long to even correct how technically false your premises are about CPU's and Intel on this subject.


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