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Senate reworks the bill to delay digital transition with modified voting procedures

The digital transition set to occur on February 17, mere weeks away, is still up in the air at this point. Despite the fact that the majority of American viewers are ready for the digital transition, the Senate and the White House are prepared to postpone the transition until June 12.

The reason for postponing the digital transition according to the Whitehouse and the Senate is to allow more time for the estimated 20 million homes in America -- which are mostly poor, minority or elderly homes -- to prepare for the transition.

Supporters of the delay point out that the coupon program designed by the federal government to offset the cost of the converters by paying $40 of the cost has ran out of fund despite the massive waiting list of people needing coupons.

Those in Washington who are opposed to the delay cite the massive amount of money that many TV stations have invested in preparing to go to all digital broadcasts and the amount of money if could cost the stations around the country to delay the transition.

Despite the opposition to delaying the digital transition, the Senate unanimously voted to delay the digital transition until June 12 2009 in January. The bill was then sent to the House where it was not approved. The Senate reworked the bill to include modified voting procedures that only require a majority vote rather than a 2/3 vote to approve the bill.

The White House has said that it now anticipates that the House will pass the bill to delay the transition. With all the drama surrounding the postponing of the transition date, it is easy to forget why Congress wanted broadcasters to move to digital broadcasts. The reason was to vacate the spectrum used for analog broadcasts to make room for new public and commercial services.

The bidding for the vacated spectrum reached massive levels with AT&T and Verizon coming out as the big winners. AT&T spent $6.6 billion on a big chunk of the spectrum and Verizon spent $9.5 billion on the largest chunk of the vacated spectrum. Both of the wireless companies have agreed to the delay in the digital transition until June 12.

However, Qualcomm won the bidding for a smaller chunk of the vacated spectrum in the 700MHz range that carries Channel 55 TV signals. The company spent $550 million on the spectrum and set about plans to use the spectrum for mobile TV channels. Qualcomm says that it will offer 15 mobile TV channels on the spectrum and has things in place to flip the switch and launch its FLO TV service on February 18, the day after the original deadline for the digital transition.

Unlike Verizon and AT&T, Qualcomm is not onboard with delaying the transition until June 12. Much of the reason Qualcomm doesn't want to delay the transition comes down to one of money. The company needs the FLO TV service to launch and be successful. The firm reported a 56% drop in Q1 profits recently and says that delaying its DTV launch would cost it millions and possibly the lucrative first entry into the mobile TV market.

Qualcomm spokesperson Christine Trimble said in a statement, "We are very disappointed with the passage of legislation in the Senate. As the House considers legislation, we are continuing to request that the legislation retain the February 17th date for nine TV stations in four markets—Boston, Houston, Miami and San Francisco."

Qualcomm's dissatisfaction with postponing the transition has had no effect on the plans to postpone the deadline for the transition.



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turn on the FLO
By Screwballl on 2/2/2009 11:15:50 AM , Rating: 3
Since Qualcomm already has the service and basics ready to go, they need to have their legal team look over the paperwork. I would assume that their contracts and legal papers show that they have every right to enable any service they have ready 24 hours or longer after the signal is vacated. Since the original contract was set with the vacate date of Feb 17, they should have every right to enable it on Feb 18.

The sale was completed and the other companies have every right to do what they want after the contracted vacate-date, aka Feb 18.

Once again this Democrat led Congress shows just how out of touch they really are.




RE: turn on the FLO
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 2/2/2009 11:25:41 AM , Rating: 2
Well congress is doing what it always does, screw over businesses for the sake of the minority.


RE: turn on the FLO
By Suomynona on 2/2/2009 11:53:01 AM , Rating: 2
TARP recipients beg to differ...


RE: turn on the FLO
By ice456789 on 2/2/2009 11:53:13 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Well congress is doing what it always does, screw over businesses for the sake of the minority.
Make that the senseless minority. 3 years of advertising, coupon availability, and warnings and they still haven't done anything so the rest of us should stop what we're doing and wait for them. They don't deserve coupons if they haven't gotten them already. Wait list or not. You waited far too long, so now you have to pay $40 for a converter instead of having it gifted on you.

They should have made it a rebate program instead of a coupon program. Buy the box, it comes with a rebate which you mail in. That way even if you turn off analog on 2/17 as planned, people can go that day and buy the converter and still get their $40 back. It would solve the whole unused coupon dilemma.


RE: turn on the FLO
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 2/2/2009 11:57:46 AM , Rating: 2
I stand corrected, senseless minority indeed.


RE: turn on the FLO
By DigitalFreak on 2/2/2009 2:33:43 PM , Rating: 1
Apparently you've been living under a rock the last decade or so, Kenobi. Congress always screws over business? Ever heard of something called the DMCA?


RE: turn on the FLO
By HinderedHindsight on 2/2/2009 2:02:02 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Once again this Democrat led Congress shows just how out of touch they really are.


It's too bad the Republican and Independent elements in the Senate who helped it to pass unanimously seem to be just as out of touch :( .


RE: turn on the FLO
By paulpod on 2/2/09, Rating: -1
RE: turn on the FLO
By Keeir on 2/2/2009 3:43:54 PM , Rating: 4
Wow... just wow

quote:
Why screw over TV networks that have been in the TV BUSINESS for 60 years and the advertisers who DEPEND on TV to reach their customers for ATT and Verizon.


As I understand it... spectrums belong to the US government to be licensed out rather than those businesses just using them. Original date of transition was 2006, many business got an additional 2+ years of worth out of thier investments.

quote:
A transition that will require massive overhauls of home, apartment, and condo master antenna systems never should have been scheduled for winter.


Ummm... not for the most part no. Only antenna systems built before UHF was used to transmit signal. UHF antenna will work fine for recieving digitial signal. In fact, Digitial Signal will actually come in better for the majority of people using the same antenna used for the old analoge signals.

People need to buy either a new TV or a 50 dollar conversion box. Hardly an unmitigated hardship. Not the "months without TV"

Lastly,

"Losing the 100 year old right to have the PUBLIC AIRWAVES used for the benefit of THE PUBLIC just for another orgy of rapacious corporate corruption is the definition of what governent is supposed to prevent."

No such thing I am afraid. All broadcasts have had to have licenses by the FCC. Auctions for space have been occuring since at least 1995...


RE: turn on the FLO
By omnicronx on 2/2/2009 3:53:24 PM , Rating: 2
I think you've completely missed the point here. We 'idiots' are prepared, and have been for over a year. Billions of dollars in TV commericials, radio adds, and even people going door to door have been spent on this. Anyone who paid attention knew well over 2 years ago about this switch, and I have even seen it explained so that even the most novice user should be able to understand.

I also think you have no idea of the implications of broadcasting two signals concurrently are. Even if not one of the 20 million people that currently are not switch ready don't watch TV, it will still lower their costs substantially, even with the lost revenue of people not watching TV, it will still be cheaper for THEM! Then we also come to realize that companies are not going to stop advertising because of the outage as there 90% of users ARE DTV ready.

quote:
Losing the 100 year old right to have the PUBLIC AIRWAVES used for the benefit of THE PUBLIC just for another orgy of rapacious corporate corruption is the definition of what governent is supposed to prevent.
And nobody has taken away, TV stations want to switch. Furthermore its only Class A or highpowered stations that will be required to shutdown. If you want to run a lower powered station with FCC approval from your garage then all the power to you, you can still do so after the shutdown. This all but fufills your 'right' to PUBLIC AIRWAVES, even though this was never a right at all..

quote:
Sen. Clarence Dill, one of the co-authors of the Radio Act of 1927, on the subject of ownership of the airwaves: “The government does not own the frequencies, as we call them, or the use of the frequencies. It only possesses the right to regulate the apparatus. We might declare that we own all the channels, but we do not.”
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/98059-The...


RE: turn on the FLO
By ice456789 on 2/2/2009 4:06:31 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Why can't you idiots see that if people are unprepared, far more businesses will be screwed over by this transition than will be helped. And only because their lobbyists are less agressive than this new breed.
First off paulpod, based on your post being called an idiot by you is a compliment. Businesses are not being screwed over by the transition. I am. Because my tax dollars are being spent $40 at a time to subsidize a technology change. The only argument FOR government subsidizing digital TV is to make sure that emergency information is available to that tiny tiny minority of people who haven't bought a TV in the last few years, don't have cable, and don't have satellite. That may be 1% of the market. I understand that some of them cannot afford to purchase the box, they aren't the problem. The problem are the people who waited until the very last minute (now) to get their names on the list. Why should the transition be delayed for one second for people who were in no hurry to get it in the first place. They acted slowly, they should pay for their box. It was always said they only have so many coupons available, so if you show up late then too bad.
quote:
The job of government is to be in touch with the people, not the lobbyists for ATT and Verizon. Furthermore, this is not a country of "powerful-majority-rules" (not that I think you brainwashed Foxaholics are in the majority). If even one poor person is having their rights trampled on, congress is supposed to vote in their favor.
Wrong. No one is getting their rights trampled on here. I don't remember anywhere in the constitution guaranteeing the right to free OTA TV. It is not a right granted by the government. The job of the government is to protect the people and work in the best interests of the citizens. That doesn't mean make every single person happy, especially if they are too lazy to do it themselves. I'm unhappy now. My rights are being trampled on because as a Verizon customer my access to a new bandwidth that has been in process for years is being delayed because some guy forgot to sign up for a coupon somewhere.

quote:
A transition that will require massive overhauls of home, apartment, and condo master antenna systems never should have been scheduled for winter.
Winter!?! Winter is your problem? Why didn't you pipe up years ago when they first set the date? Do antenna repair men hibernate in the winter with the bears? FYI very few condo and apartments have master antenna systems that are affected by this. Those few that do can still pipe the digital channel to their apartments and residents can get a $40 box.
quote:
People with TVs in every room, the basement, and garage, will be down to 1 or 2 TVs.
Only 1 or 2 TV's?!? Heaven forbid! If you've got enough money to have so many TV's you've probably got enough money to not sweat the DTV conversion. I'd be willing to bet that 99.99% of people with 3+ TV's have cable or satellite.

quote:
Many people will be without TV for months or will be forced into paying the corporate tax of cable and satellite.
The only people who will be without TV for months are the ones that did not use the government assistance that was available to them and sign up before all the coupons were gone. And even then, they don't have to go without TV for months. Buy a box for $40 if it's such a big deal! You are so upset about corporate taxes, but you don't care that YOUR taxes and MY taxes are paying for people to upgrade their technology on up to 2 TV's!


RE: turn on the FLO
By omnicronx on 2/2/2009 5:03:45 PM , Rating: 2
While I agree with what you are saying, neither Verizon or AT&T were ready to deploy their system to utilize the new space. The only one getting significantly burned here is qualcom whose system is fully ready to go and waiting for the shutdown. Verizon and AT&T are still in the testing phases and there is a large portion of the A-B-C and D block of the 700mhz spectrum already available in multiple locations around the US which is probably why you don't see them making a fuss. As a being a Verizon customer, you won't be getting LTE until late 2010 at the earliest. So basically regardless of the situation you would not be getting to use that 'new bandwidth' for quite some time.


RE: turn on the FLO
By ice456789 on 2/2/2009 10:39:54 PM , Rating: 2
Shhhhh.... our secret.


RE: turn on the FLO
By cmdrdredd on 2/2/2009 4:59:31 PM , Rating: 2
unanimous does NOT mean all inclusive 100%.

Learn that and you'll be better off.


RE: turn on the FLO
By omnicronx on 2/2/2009 5:12:41 PM , Rating: 2
In this case it means nobody objected, so there probably was not even a vote. i.e it was 100% non disapproved, which is pretty much the same thing as being 100% inclusive.

I also think you are being a bit harsh too as your definition is incorrect, it should read : 'unanimous does NOT always mean all inclusive 100%.' as it can very well mean 100%.


RE: turn on the FLO
By Screwballl on 2/3/2009 9:37:39 AM , Rating: 2
Looking at Congress as a whole:

Who has the majority (aka over 50%)? Democrats
Who crafted the bill? Democrats
The first time it went to vote, what party supported this with 100% of their votes? Democrats
What party only had a few Senate "yes" votes and no House votes? Republicans

So my original comment stands.
Why is it whenever a few Republicans support something they are blasted yet every single one of the Democrats in Congress (both Senate and House) support it without questioning it and they're patted on the back? this goes for not only the DTV transition, but the stimulus as well. If you are in a hole (defecit), how do you get out? Dig deeper?
What gets bigger the more you take away from it?
Digging a hole.


DEAD HORSE ALERT
By chmilz on 2/2/2009 11:27:35 AM , Rating: 5
Memo to US Government: Make the switch and move on already, there's more pressing concerns than trailer park idiots missing American Idol.




RE: DEAD HORSE ALERT
By ancient46 on 2/2/2009 12:06:13 PM , Rating: 2
This really has very little to do with the people who do not have converter boxes. It has everything to do with the government's lack of foresight in the entire coupon program and the box manufacturers. This is not about dumb consumers it is about dumber government flunkies and legislators covering their buttockal area.

Some facts: The government did not correctly predict the demand. Manufacturers did not correctly predict the demand. The coupons had an 90 day life. The government mismanaged the coupon program fund accounting as usual. Many people's coupons expired before they got lucky and shopped the day a store got a shipment. Supplies are still inconsistent and are sold quickly.

Stores are now offering to accept the coupons whenever the people get them upon showing a receipt for a purchased converter.


RE: DEAD HORSE ALERT
By monitorjbl on 2/2/2009 12:17:53 PM , Rating: 4
As far as I know, there's no law that guarantees the use of a television. The government didn't have to issue any coupons for converters for this switch, and for god's sake, they don't cost that much on their own. If you can't afford the converter, you really shouldn't be wasting your time watching TV.


RE: DEAD HORSE ALERT
By mindless1 on 2/3/2009 1:12:55 AM , Rating: 2
Without TV, many of these people effected will be out wandering around in public causing problems.

Didn't think about that did ya?

Oh BTW, yes the government DID have to issue the coupons, this was all arranged ahead of time or else there never would've been any auctioning off the airwaves.

I don't think it's about the cost of the box necessarily, it's about being required to pay and take extra steps to retain use of something that already worked. I do think we can benefit from reallocation of this bandwidth, but the hater mentality that people should do without is a wasted thought, TV is what ties the nation together like it or not. It serves to educate, inform, notify, etc, far more than any other method we have and reaches almost everyone. Until now.

If someone is that unable to cope with the situation, all the more we need to extend them a little patience. I'll bet at some point someone out there extended you some patience when you weren't getting something done right, but it's too easy to ignore this isn't it?

The mark of a good person is charity, not only with money but in spirit as well. Give them TV, or rather, let them keep it.


RE: DEAD HORSE ALERT
By theapparition on 2/3/2009 10:03:27 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Without TV, many of these people effected will be out wandering around in public causing problems.

So now it's the governments responsibility to babysit?

quote:
Oh BTW, yes the government DID have to issue the coupons, this was all arranged ahead of time or else there never would've been any auctioning off the airwaves.

Yes, it was part of the original bill, but only there as a concession. IMHO, the government should not have subsidized the cost of converter boxes. Without a $40 stimulus, there's no incentive for competition to bring costs below $40.

quote:
If someone is that unable to cope with the situation, all the more we need to extend them a little patience.

You mean like the 2 1/2 year extension already granted?

Why should I not be able to buy leaded gasoline for a 68 Mustang? Why are cellular networks shutting down certain frequencies, rendering operable cell phones inoporable? I mean, I already have those things, why are barriers being set up to prevent things that are already working.

You know the answer. Ultimately, things change. TV is not a granted right. This has been coming for many years (over 10). After the extension is granted, in June, you'll hear the exact same stories and situations: Many households are still unprepared. Not enough coupons. Minorities, oh the horror.........

The only thing that will change is that many broadcasters will be out a signifigant amount of cash. Cash that could have been used to expand business, hire workers, help the economy, etc.


RE: DEAD HORSE ALERT
By monitorjbl on 2/4/2009 3:09:33 PM , Rating: 2
First off, it's "affected". Secondly this little comment,

quote:
Without TV, many of these people effected will be out wandering around in public causing problems. Didn't think about that did ya?


is just silly. TV is not a prison guard, and it's not a policeman. And this,

quote:
Oh BTW, yes the government DID have to issue the coupons, this was all arranged ahead of time or else there never would've been any auctioning off the airwaves.


is also silly. Yes, the government agreed to do this, but find me a law that guarantees citizen's access to television. The bill had to be pushed through Congress, and since the Congresshumans are, of course, painfully aware of how much their jobs depend upon their constituents. And, I might add, said constituents consist of a large number of people that can endure two and a half years of commercials, posters, and mailing campaigns on something like this and take heed of none of it.

I'm not going to bother quoting the other parts of your post (since I don't want to overuse the wonderful adjective "silly"), but I'd like to add that helping the less fortunate is great...but only when they actually need it. Watching television is not something necessary to life, health, or success.


RE: DEAD HORSE ALERT
By theapparition on 2/2/2009 1:17:27 PM , Rating: 4
Complete tripe.

The only thing the government should have done to improve the program is limiting coupons to 1 per household. This would have ensured access to all who needed the coupons, plus would have helped with the supply problems. There's no reason for anyone "disadvanted" enough to need the coupons to require two converter boxes.

But I ask, why should the government need to do anything at all. TV is not a right. What's next, buy everyone a car because it's everyones' right to get to work?


RE: DEAD HORSE ALERT
By DigitalFreak on 2/2/2009 2:30:46 PM , Rating: 3
Boo hoo. I applied for a coupon for my parents back in March of '08, and bought a converter in June. Every store that I've been in that carries electronics has had loads of converter boxes sitting on the shelf. If people didn't get their request in for a coupon early enough, too bad.


RE: DEAD HORSE ALERT
By Chaser on 2/2/2009 1:18:01 PM , Rating: 2
Not to mention Dancing with the Stars! :)


May not be what we all wanted but...
By quiksilvr on 2/2/2009 11:09:03 AM , Rating: 1
At least Verizon and AT&T are on board. Perhaps the extra time can give both the companies some time to fix any remaining issues for the new service they're planning on. Though it's annoying that 6.5 million people didn't change to digital and that by shutting down analog TV it would motivate those clueless masses to finally GET a converter box, maybe this will give them more time to build up for the future and save us some headaches.




RE: May not be what we all wanted but...
By ChugokuOtaku on 2/2/2009 11:22:21 AM , Rating: 5
fastest way for them to get a converter box is to TURN OFF THE ANALOG BROADCAST


By therealnickdanger on 2/2/2009 11:31:25 AM , Rating: 2
+1,604

Just end it! End the madness!


By quiksilvr on 2/2/2009 11:49:49 AM , Rating: 1
I agree, but hey, what can you do? We can either bitch and moan about it or just move on and hope to god Verizon and AT&T doesn't screw up.


RE: May not be what we all wanted but...
By theapparition on 2/2/2009 12:26:29 PM , Rating: 5
Absolutely.

BTW,
This bill doesm't mandate broadcasters to keep broadcasting analog. They are still free to shut down analog signals on Feb 17th. This only grants an extension, and mandates that analog broadcasts much be shut down in June.

Several stations in my area have publicly stated that they are shutting down thier analog broadcasts on the 17th, reguardless of bill passage.


By ebakke on 2/2/2009 1:37:48 PM , Rating: 2
What stations, in what market? I would like to send them a congratulatory letter.


email your congressmen
By billg1745 on 2/2/2009 11:48:53 AM , Rating: 2
Only way to stop the nonsense is to let 'em know you don't want it. Go to the US House web site and do it.




RE: email your congressmen
By kattanna on 2/2/2009 11:54:57 AM , Rating: 2
i did last week

you can do it here..

https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml


By TennesseeTony on 2/2/2009 5:32:38 PM , Rating: 2
Did I really misunderstand, or did the article say that the Senate didn't like being voted down, so they changed the rules of the game so it would get passed?

I dare not ponder on the possibilities this opens up in the future!




By rcc on 2/3/2009 1:36:52 PM , Rating: 2
Yup, that's what I got out of it too.


deadline
By Plugers on 2/3/2009 7:13:02 AM , Rating: 2
Wasn't the original deadline something like 1998? These douche nozzles can go without TV.
I work for a cable co and hardly watch any of the free service I get. I seem to be getting around fine without getting bombarded with commercials and news propaganda.




RE: deadline
By HueyD on 2/3/2009 8:56:36 AM , Rating: 2
The original DTV turn-on date was May 1999.
http://www.fcc.gov/Speeches/Kennard/Statements/stw...

and this is the same government we want to run our healthcare!?!?!?!


20 Million!?
By cscpianoman on 2/2/2009 6:19:24 PM , Rating: 2
I thought it was only 6.5 million a few weeks ago? New information? or overinflation of numbers?

What I really hope happens is the bill gets delayed until after Feb 17. But knowing our gov't, it will still pass and they will turn back on the signal creating even more problems than it should.




By vapore0n on 2/2/2009 11:14:43 AM , Rating: 1
I would have hoped that the bill would have included some real reason or at least a sugar coat as to why they should pass the bill, rather than just make it easier to get enough votes to pass the bill regardless.




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