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New lower power models are pricey

Intel has announced price cuts for some of its Core 2 Quad, Core 2 Duo, Pentium Dual Core, Celeron, and Xeon products. It has also announced several new Core 2 Quad CPUs with a 65W TDP.

We have listed only the models that are new or have dropped in price. New products are noted. All pricing is based on OEM purchasing of 1000 units in a non-retail tray format.
  

 Intel Core 2 Quad

Model

Clock Speed

L2 Cache

FSB

TDP

Price   

     Change

Q9650

3.00 GHz

12MB

1333 MHz

95W

$316

-40%

Q9550s

2.83 GHz

12MB

1333 MHz

65W

$369

NEW

Q9550

2.83 GHz

12MB

1333 MHz

95W

$266

-16%

Q9400s

2.66 GHz

6MB

1333 MHz

65W

$320

NEW

Q9400

2.66 GHz

6MB

1333 MHz

95W

$213

-20%

Q8300

2.50 GHz

4MB

1333 MHz

95W

$183

-18%

Q8200s

2.33 GHz

4MB

1333 MHz

65W

$245

NEW

Q8200

2.33 GHz

4MB

1333 MHz

95W

$163

-16%

Intel has launched three new Core 2 Quad processors with a TDP of  65W. All other Core 2 Quads have a 95W TDP. The price premium for the Q8200s, Q9400s, and Q9550s is an incredible $82, $107, and $103 respectively over the 95W models.

 

 Intel Core 2 Duo

Model

Clock Speed

L2 Cache

FSB

Price

Change

E7500

2.93 GHz

3MB

1066 MHz

$133

NEW

E7400

2.80 GHz

3MB

1066 MHz

$113

-15%

  One new model Core 2 Duo is introduced, while the E7400 drops slightly lower.

 

 Intel Pentium Dual Core

Model

Clock Speed

L2 Cache

FSB

Price

Change

E5400

2.80 GHz

2MB

800 MHz

$84

NEW

E5300

2.60 GHz

2MB

800 MHz

$74

-14%

E5200

2.50 GHz

2MB

800 MHz

$64

-24%

E2200

2.40 GHz

1MB

800 MHz

$64

-14%

Intel introduced a new Pentium Dual Core, the new E5400 at $84. The rest of this budget series drops even lower.

  

 Intel Xeon Server (LGA775)

Model

Clock Speed

L2 Cache

FSB

Price

Change

X3370

3.00 GHz

12MB

1333 MHz

$316

-40%

X3360

2.83 GHz

12MB

1333 MHz

$266

-16%

X3350

2.66 GHz

12MB

1333 MHz

$266

-16%

X3330

2.66 GHz

6MB

1333 MHz

$224

-16%

  No new Xeon products, just price drops.



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RE: The "market situation"
By SandmanWN on 1/19/2009 10:01:17 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Intel fears the recession more than anything/anybody else.
AMD is no more/no longer considered a serious competitior.
Intel has huge inventories that have to be cutdown drastically


Yeah ok. It was merely coincidence it only just so happened a day or two after an AMD release for this startling discovery that their inventories were high. lol

This is nothing more than pulling out cpu's that binned better than others and charging a premium to people like us who are system builders. Add in a new model or two to screw with the demand curve and optimize profits.


RE: The "market situation"
By BSMonitor on 1/19/2009 10:23:22 AM , Rating: 2
Hah, you are right. The price drop is in line with Phenom II. But not the reasons you think. The Core i7 was the Phenom II response. Back in Novemeber. But yet again, AMD lagged and Phenom II is only half-here in January. Intel surely was prepared to make this price cut then. But without competition for even the Q6600, why? Never forget, both these companies are in the game to make money. Why sell something for less than you have to?

What's amazing, now I can get a $1000 CPU for $316. (aka 3GHz Penryn) Just without the unlocked multiplier. Guess I'll have to deal.


RE: The "market situation"
By Reclaimer77 on 1/19/2009 5:54:13 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The Core i7 was the Phenom II response.


Slight correction, but this is not accurate.

AMD is.. well, was beating Intel badly in the server CPU segment. That's what the i7 was the answer for.

The i7 isn't a desktop CPU, although it certainly performs admirably as one, that's not it's target.


RE: The "market situation"
By SandmanWN on 1/20/2009 11:10:59 AM , Rating: 2
i7 is both just as Phenom is both.

If its in the segment then it is what it is. You can't change that because you feel like it.


RE: The "market situation"
By crystal clear on 1/19/2009 10:28:30 AM , Rating: 2
You say-

Yeah ok. It was merely coincidence it only just so happened a day or two after an AMD release for this startling discovery that their inventories were high.

If there is a Tick Tock stratergy in Intel, they at Intel have also come up with the Ding Dong stratergy for AMD.

Its all about timing....an AMD release/launch is always greeted with a Intel price cut.

Intel knows how to manage its inventories & keeps a good track on their movements.

Intel is not RECESSION PROOF ...


RE: The "market situation"
By SandmanWN on 1/19/2009 10:32:26 AM , Rating: 2
They just released their new CPU. The old models should have already come down in price. They waited not because of some pressing concerns of recession but rather for the competition to force the move.

This isn't a tick, its a flinch at the competition. It the rest of the tock that should have happened months ago.


RE: The "market situation"
By FITCamaro on 1/19/2009 11:22:24 AM , Rating: 5
Face it. This was fueled by Phenom IIs strong performance vs. Core 2 and its cheaper price. Businesses don't cut their prices just to be nice.


RE: The "market situation"
By melgross on 1/19/09, Rating: -1
RE: The "market situation"
By Belard on 1/19/2009 4:57:14 PM , Rating: 4
I'd consider myself an "AMD guy" - even thou my main computer is now a C2D Quad. After many years of only building AMD systems... since they were cheaper and faster than P4/P-D chips, Core2 is easily the more powerful CPU.

But, AMD CPUs are not slow, they are simply not as fast in the top markets. A $60 AMD X2 CPU is easily the better choice of a "Pentium Duo" Chip.

Also, there are other factors that are important. I read reviews / blogs of others having issues with P45 chipsets and the P35 isn't perfect either. And when going by price, an AMD chipset gives more value for the money over an Intel chipset.

An AMD 780 board by Gigabyte may cost $80. It has eSata, Firewire, PCIe 2.0, DVI output, 3D abilitie that smokes any onboard intel video. The recently phased out P35 Gigabyte was $80~100 and didn't have those features. The current P45 model still doesn't have any of those features other than the PCIe 2.0... and its $100. And if we talk about Crossfire, thats a $85~140 usually for an AMD... on an Intel setup, usually $250. (yeah I know about the P45s with 8x 8x dual PCIe slots for about $150)

Working with and owning an intel chipset board now for many many months, its generally a good product from Gigabyte, super stable... but some areas of performance with IO has a lot to be desired. I've not seen a Core2 intel chipset board or notebook that didn't have such poor IO.

And when compared to the current i7 system, AMD is a lot cheaper but of course noticably slower.

A good quality AMD core parts (CPU / 4GB RAM / Mobo) is about $160~180. An Intel with a G43 chipset and good Core2Duo CPU is about $220~250. And while us gamers, FPS is important, to the average user - there is no noticable differences. Benchmark all day, Intel wins in most areas.
But if both types boot up at the same time, apps open within 1-2 seconds of each others, the end user won't notice or care... but a $100~200 price difference is.

Phenom II... yeah, AMD needs to do better. But they also don't have intel's deep pockets for R&D and manufacturing.


RE: The "market situation"
By icanhascpu on 1/19/2009 5:01:08 PM , Rating: 1
As an oldtime AMD fan...

I agree mostly.

The people defending AMD right now are doing the most to hurt AMD as a company. AMD doesn't need BS with people trying their best to compair them against i7, they need to focus on where their market is, and thats against the Core2 crowd, and inexpensive well preforming sector.

Some of you need to face it, AMD does not have a high-end solution right now, and pretending it does is delusional and doesnt help them.

If AMD wants to catch up, they need honesty, not fluff that just gets in the way of the vision of how much they need to catch up.


RE: The "market situation"
By Targon on 1/19/2009 5:54:57 PM , Rating: 3
And with that said, a Phenom 2 940 is still a decent chip for the $275 it costs. If you already have a motherboard with support for the new processor, it's probably worth the money to upgrade.

I am currently running an Athlon 64 X2 5600+ at 2.8GHz, so the upgrade to quad core with the updated design isn't a bad thing for the money. It also depends on what you play of course.


RE: The "market situation"
By Jansen (blog) on 1/19/2009 11:17:58 AM , Rating: 2
http://www.dailytech.com/Upcoming+Budget+Mainstrea...

Brandon reported this two months ago, Intel plans its cuts three to six months in advance.


RE: The "market situation"
By rudy on 1/19/2009 4:01:01 PM , Rating: 2
This is true, so maybe it was AMD who timed the release to just beat the intel price cuts which it knew were coming.


RE: The "market situation"
By Amiga500 on 1/19/2009 12:32:01 PM , Rating: 2
Its all about timing....an AMD release/launch is always greeted with a Intel price cut.

You said it yourself...

Maybe you jumped the gun with your initial post?


RE: The "market situation"
By melgross on 1/19/2009 1:34:20 PM , Rating: 2
These cuts were expected. They are in line with what Intel does around this time of the year, every year. You might say that, AMD decided to announce their "new" line just before Intel announced their expected price cuts.

So what?

These Intel products have been out for a while, and are getting stale, so Intel cuts their already paid for product prices.
Even here, in more than one article, it was mentioned that Intel would be cutting prices and announcing new products.

I would imagine that the recession has much more to do with this than anything AMD is doing, though like every competitor, Intel looks at what the copetition is doing. So no doubt some of the structured cuts are adjusted to better compete with a few of AMDs products.

You aren't saying that AMD didn't structure their new products and pricing to attempt to cut into Intel's market, are you?


RE: The "market situation"
By SandmanWN on 1/19/2009 3:48:03 PM , Rating: 2
Whats new here? Specially binned processors from the exact same product line... You are paying 80-100 more for the same cpu and getting a discount on the crap that doesn't overclock well.

2 months stale? yeah ok. The only reason these cuts came today in the middle of their tick-tock schedule where nothing usually happens is nothing more than a direct fire at the competition.

Intel - "We can announce that at some point in the future we will reduce the price on something... Just give us a reason to do it."


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