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New lower power models are pricey

Intel has announced price cuts for some of its Core 2 Quad, Core 2 Duo, Pentium Dual Core, Celeron, and Xeon products. It has also announced several new Core 2 Quad CPUs with a 65W TDP.

We have listed only the models that are new or have dropped in price. New products are noted. All pricing is based on OEM purchasing of 1000 units in a non-retail tray format.
  

 Intel Core 2 Quad

Model

Clock Speed

L2 Cache

FSB

TDP

Price   

     Change

Q9650

3.00 GHz

12MB

1333 MHz

95W

$316

-40%

Q9550s

2.83 GHz

12MB

1333 MHz

65W

$369

NEW

Q9550

2.83 GHz

12MB

1333 MHz

95W

$266

-16%

Q9400s

2.66 GHz

6MB

1333 MHz

65W

$320

NEW

Q9400

2.66 GHz

6MB

1333 MHz

95W

$213

-20%

Q8300

2.50 GHz

4MB

1333 MHz

95W

$183

-18%

Q8200s

2.33 GHz

4MB

1333 MHz

65W

$245

NEW

Q8200

2.33 GHz

4MB

1333 MHz

95W

$163

-16%

Intel has launched three new Core 2 Quad processors with a TDP of  65W. All other Core 2 Quads have a 95W TDP. The price premium for the Q8200s, Q9400s, and Q9550s is an incredible $82, $107, and $103 respectively over the 95W models.

 

 Intel Core 2 Duo

Model

Clock Speed

L2 Cache

FSB

Price

Change

E7500

2.93 GHz

3MB

1066 MHz

$133

NEW

E7400

2.80 GHz

3MB

1066 MHz

$113

-15%

  One new model Core 2 Duo is introduced, while the E7400 drops slightly lower.

 

 Intel Pentium Dual Core

Model

Clock Speed

L2 Cache

FSB

Price

Change

E5400

2.80 GHz

2MB

800 MHz

$84

NEW

E5300

2.60 GHz

2MB

800 MHz

$74

-14%

E5200

2.50 GHz

2MB

800 MHz

$64

-24%

E2200

2.40 GHz

1MB

800 MHz

$64

-14%

Intel introduced a new Pentium Dual Core, the new E5400 at $84. The rest of this budget series drops even lower.

  

 Intel Xeon Server (LGA775)

Model

Clock Speed

L2 Cache

FSB

Price

Change

X3370

3.00 GHz

12MB

1333 MHz

$316

-40%

X3360

2.83 GHz

12MB

1333 MHz

$266

-16%

X3350

2.66 GHz

12MB

1333 MHz

$266

-16%

X3330

2.66 GHz

6MB

1333 MHz

$224

-16%

  No new Xeon products, just price drops.



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Aimed at AMD PH2
By Slappi on 1/19/2009 8:35:57 AM , Rating: 2
This is gonna hurt a little.




RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By SandmanWN on 1/19/09, Rating: -1
RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By cochy on 1/19/2009 9:57:30 AM , Rating: 2
You realize they released their next gen CPU, Core i7 a couple months ago already?

How are they "holding up CPU progression"?

Actually, that's a rhetorical question. They aren't.


RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By SandmanWN on 1/19/09, Rating: -1
RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By TomZ on 1/19/2009 3:33:36 PM , Rating: 2
Charging a bit more for a better performing part is the norm for this industry, not the exception. Your conspiracy theory has no merit IMO.


RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By SandmanWN on 1/19/09, Rating: -1
RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By BSMonitor on 1/19/2009 5:20:08 PM , Rating: 5
So what is your point about playing to the competition? What world do you live in? You walk into your car dealership 8 months ago and get $2000 rebate on a 2009 Truck. The next day GM announces sales are down and annouces an $8000 rebate on the same model. 2010's aren't even in the picture. This happens all the time as companies try to move stock.

As for the competition, yeah what GM does, so does Ford, Toyota, etc... But do you think for a second that if Toyota thought that it could sell its comparible model for a $0 rebate, that it would just offer an $8000 rebate to you to be nice?? Or because the other guy did? Think again genius.

They price these things to sell. Clearly people were buying enough $550 Q9650's to keep the price at that level. Not to mention it allows Intel to build up stock on a higher clocked part in order to meet demand if the competition did release a comparible part.

The name of the game is make money. Not kiss Sandman's butt.


RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By SandmanWN on 1/19/09, Rating: -1
RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By Reclaimer77 on 1/20/2009 8:39:15 AM , Rating: 5
You know Sand, one thing is clear from reading all your rants on this.

You have NO idea how CPU's are made. ALL CPU's are "binned" from the wafer because manufacturing processes are not accurate enough to result in all chips having the same quality, speed, and power consumption across the board.

Where do you think the Extreme Editions come from, moron ? Do you think they set out to make an entire wafer of Extreme Editions ? No. Extreme Editions come from the bin just like every other CPU. They just happen to be the ones that test out the very best.

If your argument is that this price drop is a bad thing because people might buy CPU's that don't overclock as well.. then uhh, duh ? You ALWAYS have a chance of getting a CPU that might not overclock as good as someone else with the same exact model. Because of said manufacturing factors.

Besides, when has Intel, or AMD for that matter, came out and said you have a right or guarantee of good OC'ing ? All they are responsible for is that the chip will run at its rated speed and voltages. They are NOT responsible for your overclocking experience.

quote:
The name of the game should be kiss the consumers butt or else. Otherwise there are other options on the table.


Classy. real classy.

They are dropping prices on YEAR OLD CPU's that still beat their competitors NEWEST CPU. If that's not catering to the customer then I don't know what more you want.


RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By SandmanWN on 1/20/09, Rating: -1
RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By Reclaimer77 on 1/20/2009 3:39:00 PM , Rating: 2
Who said they were ?

It was an example meant to educate you. But as usual, you have missed mine and everyone else's point.

Are you being ignorant purposely ? Or do you really hate Intel that much ? Either way, it would be nice if you would get a clue.

quote:
The OC'er got screwed and you are too stupid to realize it.


Assuming you are right, by the way do you have any reviews on the chips to confirm they OC poorly ? Assuming they do, again, where is it Intel or AMD's responsibility to make sure their chips OC well ?

If your argument was they couldn't run at rated speeds and volts, then you would have something. But they do and will.


RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By Reclaimer77 on 1/20/2009 3:46:56 PM , Rating: 2
You know what, here you freaking idiot. Since you are too stubborn to see how stupid your argument sounds. Read this.

http://www.sudhian.com/index.php?/articles/show/Pr...

But because I know you won't, I'll paste whats relevant to this discussion.

quote:
Wafers that pass as a whole are then cut up into the individual processors. From the initial testing, ones that are known to be dead are tossed aside. Then each die is attached to it's packaging, which allows it to seat and interact with the motherboard. As well, most recent processors from both Intel and AMD are then covered with an integrated heat spreader. Each processor is tested again at this stage for complete functionality. This is where some "binning" occurs. Some wafers work out to produce processors that run at a higher speed than others, and are binned initially there. Even from less "perfect" wafers though, you do get some that are capable of running at a higher speed grade. Considering the disparity in yields and price, binning can make more efficient use of turning processors into revenue. Finally, certain parts of a processor may not function properly. If this area is in the cache (which takes half or more of a CPUs die area), some times it can be routed around and masked off. This means you can still sell the CPU for a profit, just as a Celeron or Sempron with less enabled cache onboard.


RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By SandmanWN on 1/20/09, Rating: 0
RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By icanhascpu on 1/22/2009 10:04:42 PM , Rating: 2
"wow idiot alert."

Seeing as you replied from your own dumbass post, I find this one of the rare correct things youve written.


RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By SandmanWN on 1/23/2009 9:33:36 AM , Rating: 1
actually idiot. the lines stop expanding at some point. a bit noobish of you.


RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By SandmanWN on 1/20/09, Rating: 0
RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By lagitup on 1/23/2009 12:13:06 PM , Rating: 2
Watch out!

He's a rabid fanboy, they're known to bitch and moan if provoked...


RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By Ringold on 1/19/2009 4:05:17 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
Just pushes me more to invest in another company instead of a fat pig that is waiting for market capitalization when they have billions in the bank.


Oh please, that's the most silly thing I've seen and I've read several FaceMaster posts so far today. Companies do not exist to make you feel better. On the other side of the coin, if Intel rushed ahead and released the best product they could at the lowest possible price they could offer and still exist, they would utterly annihilate AMD -- which would lead people to claim Intel was "dumping" or engaging in anti-competitive abusive behavior. Even if people didn't complain about that, many would then complain that Intel would then have total market dominance of a sort Microsoft could only dream about, assuming AMD was completely ran in to the ground.

As if your comment wasnt absurd just from a business and political perspective, it was even worse from an investment perspective. If you haven't figured out that "pig" companies with "billions in the bank" are superior right now compared to companies who do not share any of Intel's attributes, you should probably not be managing your own investments -- unless you consider your retirement money to be charity money.

Hadn't been by DT much in the past couple weeks, I'd forgot how prevalent stupid socialism -- not even informed socialism, but just plain stupid socialism -- is in the world.


RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By SandmanWN on 1/19/09, Rating: -1
RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By BaronMatrix on 1/19/2009 9:09:07 AM , Rating: 2
Not really since perf wise Ph2 sits right between 9550 and 9650. The 65W chips are $100 more.


RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By maroon1 on 1/19/2009 9:38:14 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Not really since perf wise Ph2 sits right between 9550 and 9650. The 65W chips are $100 more.


What ?!

My friend, the fastest Phenom II performs worse than Q9550

Check the reviews

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?...

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/phenom-ii-940,review...

http://xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-pheno...

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_phenom_2_9...


RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By FITCamaro on 1/19/2009 11:23:58 AM , Rating: 1
Yes but its how much worse. In a down economy. Price is king. And AMDs prices were much lower.


RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By Reclaimer77 on 1/19/2009 6:02:36 PM , Rating: 3
In a "down economy" we wouldn't be arguing about CPU's that were mostly going to hobbyist to overclock and play Crisis :)

I believe with CPU's price vs performance is king, not just price.

Lower prices are nice, but it's not a solid long term strategy. AMD needs to show that they can stand toe to toe with the best Intel can throw at them. And they haven't been able to do that for years.


RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By mindless1 on 1/20/2009 1:52:19 AM , Rating: 2
In a down economy, even hobbyists will be buying lower down the food chain and less often. Regular joe users will keep what they have for longer and more quickly consider repairing something that breaks.

In either case, besides the gamers we are also coming close and closer to a point where people simply don't need addt'l performance, instead they want cheaper and cheaper. This trend has gone on for over a decade now and shows no signs of stopping, note the sub $500 notebooks and netbook sales in numbers much higher than those who factor price vs performance as most important, or to put it another way, paying $200 more doesn't make their email and browsing performance any better than it already was.


RE: Aimed at AMD PH2
By Quiescent on 1/20/2009 10:53:43 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed on a long term strategy. If I were a person who wanted to build a computer that will last me, I want to go with the latest and greatest at this time. And that means I would be paying that pretty penny on that i7, because it's performance is amazing. Versus buying a processor that won't last me awhile and I'll have to think about upgrading soon in the future.

This was something I seem to have not gotten into my aunt's head. She ended up spending $400 on a computer that only lasted her a year, where she could have paid $100 more for a computer that would last her 3 years, even more, because it could have been upgraded.

But of course people will buy what appears to be the cheapest. And their cheapest parts will not last as long. And they will not be able to do anything about it for a very long time because they did not spend their money smart. Whereas what I am doing, I will have a computer, whilst pushing it, will last me 10 years before I finally need an upgrade!


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