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17" MacBook Pro  (Source: Apple Insider)
Apple introduces a new 17" MacBook Pro during its final Macworld

During the opening keynote of the Apple Macworld Conference & Expo in San Francisco, Apple unveiled several new hardware and software technologies.  Despite Apple CEO Steve Jobs stepping aside to give keynote duties to Senior V.P. of Worldwide Product Marketing Phil Schiller, there was a certain level of anxiety as attendees were still unsure what to expect.

Apple kicked off the event by announcing a new 17" MacBook Pro, which was promoted as the "world's thinnest 17" notebook," as it's just 0.98 inches thick and weighs only 6.6 pounds.  The notebook promises 1920 x 1200 resolution and a new battery technology that is able to increase battery life to about eight hours during a single battery charge.  

The new MacBook Pro will have a Core 2 Duo processor -- 2.66 GHz -- 4GB DDR3 RAM, 320GB HDD, and NVIDIA GPUs, using a 9400M and 9600M GT.  In addition, it offers 3 USB 2.0 ports, FireWire 800, express card, glass trackpad, and a mini display port.  

Apple believes the eight-hour battery is the most innovative new feature of the laptop, as it's the longest battery life ever for an Apple product, with the company able to increase battery life while keeping the size of the laptop small.

Pricing for the latest Apple laptop will start at $2,799.  Apple expects to begin shipping the laptop later this month.


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Apple innovation!
By TheSpaniard on 1/6/2009 4:35:01 PM , Rating: -1
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Apple believes the eight-hour battery is the most innovative new feature of the laptopp, as it's the longest battery life ever for an Apple product,


really? innovative? while hp has been pulling out 24 hr battery life?

I dont know the specs of the systems in question but still... boasting battery life as the main feature is a little sad when competition is 3x it




RE: Apple innovation!
By Cheesew1z69 on 1/6/2009 4:39:59 PM , Rating: 1
I don't know of ANY notebook that gets 24 hour battery life, I think you are blowing smoke here....


RE: Apple innovation!
By Cheesew1z69 on 1/6/2009 4:43:43 PM , Rating: 2
Ok, I found the article but they CLAIM, and it's an HP 6930P


RE: Apple innovation!
By SlipDizzy on 1/6/2009 4:46:37 PM , Rating: 2
Batteries aside, did you see that price tag? $2,799 ?!?!? I really hope that thing also comes with a 37inch external monitor.


RE: Apple innovation!
By Gzus666 on 1/6/2009 4:48:33 PM , Rating: 3
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Batteries aside, did you see that price tag? $2,799 ?!?!? I really hope that thing also comes with a 37inch external monitor.


And maybe a hand job as well. Talk about expensive!


RE: Apple innovation!
By corduroygt on 1/6/2009 6:23:24 PM , Rating: 2
For $100 LESS, you can get a 13.3 macbook + 20" imac...17" pro must be the worst deal you can get on an apple product.


RE: Apple innovation!
By Rodney McNaggerton on 1/6/2009 7:02:00 PM , Rating: 4
For 300 less than your initial 100 (so 2399) you could get two HP touchscreen laptops with "multitouch" screens that you could use to play with windows 7.

OR you could just buy one laptop and spend the remaining 1800 on blow, go on a binge, mess up a couple of hookers and use the remaining money as bail money so that you can go home and have the worst hang over ever in the morning.


RE: Apple innovation!
By robinthakur on 1/7/2009 8:54:49 AM , Rating: 1
The price is not a lot of money to those who can afford it. If you can't afford it, and are worried about a piffling $3k then this is clearly not for you. Buy a more affordable brand like HP or Lenovo. The principle thing you are paying for is the Apple design/look and feel and that new battery tech and this model is the most premium model. Besides if it were cheap and everybody could easily afford one, Apple's target market wouldn't want it anymore.


RE: Apple innovation!
By Gzus666 on 1/7/2009 9:16:46 AM , Rating: 2
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Buy a more affordable brand like HP or Lenovo.


Unlike with Apple, Lenovo gives you something for your money. As far as I'm concerned, their ThinkPad is unrivaled. Apple charges a premium for their name and some shine. Lenovo charges a premium for features and quality. Their customization is surely unrivaled by the likes of Apple. Not to discount HP by any means, their laptops are swell. I don't complain about price if you are getting something for it, in this case I don't see it.

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/we...

That line up is expensive, but pretty damn impressive for what you pay.


RE: Apple innovation!
By SlipDizzy on 1/7/2009 9:33:40 AM , Rating: 2
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The price is not a lot of money to those who can afford it. If you can't afford it, and are worried about a piffling $3k then this is clearly not for you. Buy a more affordable brand like HP or Lenovo. The principle thing you are paying for is the Apple design/look and feel and that new battery tech and this model is the most premium model. Besides if it were cheap and everybody could easily afford one, Apple's target market wouldn't want it anymore.


As Gzus just pointed out, other brands also have high end models that come with a hefty price tag. When I see a big price tag, I expect to see equipment to back up that price tag. When I look at this new Apple laptop, I don't see the specifications that make me believe they should be charging as much as they are.

The Apple "look and feel" that you speak of doesn't automatically add on another 1k more by my standards. I've never doubted that Apple does very well in designing an aesthetically pleasing device, but I'd expect their "premium" products to have a little more under the hood.


RE: Apple innovation!
By kelmon on 1/7/2009 9:43:27 AM , Rating: 2
If the display is colour accurate and has a high overall gamut, I think you're paying your premium for that.


RE: Apple innovation!
By MADAOO7 on 1/7/2009 9:13:32 PM , Rating: 2
You're missing the point. A $3k Civic with 15k in upgrades can outrun a $217k Ferrari. Bet, you'd rather have the Ferrari if price wasn't an issue, right? So on some level, we all are willing to pay more for "look and feel." Perceived value is always in the eyes of the individual consumer.

You are also missing the intangible fact that Apple's run a completely different OS. Not to start arguing which is better, but you can't put a value on preference.


RE: Apple innovation!
By really on 1/7/2009 7:47:34 PM , Rating: 2
I really hate to blast people but this statement is about one of the most asinine statements I have ever read. Do you really think that this "premium model" is really worth the money that you will pay? Is your self-esteem really that low that you need Apple to design a laptop that will make you look and feel better? The only reason Apples prices are so high are because of asinine people like you who are willing to pay exorbitant prices to feel better about themselves. Go shop around on HP, Lenovo and Dell's sites and find a laptop actually worthy of that money or even cheaper and use what is left over to pay for some good psycotherapy.


RE: Apple innovation!
By SavagePotato on 1/6/2009 4:50:33 PM , Rating: 3
Oh tut tut, the mac zealots would have you believe that the overpricing of apple hardware is just a myth. (except for the fact you could get even an overpriced sony with similar if not better specs for less.)


RE: Apple innovation!
By MScrip on 1/6/2009 7:36:32 PM , Rating: 4
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did you see that price tag? $2,799 ?!?!?

The previous 17" Macbook Pro was $2799. Nothing new here...


RE: Apple innovation!
By kelmon on 1/7/2009 6:00:16 AM , Rating: 2
Whether it is expensive or not depends on what you are doing. If you are using it for the likes of playing games (please, try not to laugh) or office work then the money is probably a waste. However, if the display provides a high colour gamut comparable to a pro desktop display (like those produced by LaCie and NEC) then this is damned useful to the likes of photographers where accurate colour reproduction is essential. Pro desktop monitors are damned expensive so having a colour accurate display on your laptop will be very beneficial to those people working "in the field", in addition to the wonderful battery life. I want to see the reviews but I think this computer combined with Aperture is a match made in heaven.

Evaluate the price based on your personal requirements.


RE: Apple innovation!
By SavagePotato on 1/6/2009 4:45:01 PM , Rating: 3
At close to 3000 bucks I'll take the 17 inch led backlit dell with a blu ray drive and similar specs, that just ordered for half the price.

They can keep it with the time bomb is it faulty, or is it one of the new non faulty Nvidia hardware lottery parts. For which the "fix" for is usually an update to clock it down so it doesn't overheat as much.


RE: Apple innovation!
By aj28 on 1/6/09, Rating: 0
RE: Apple innovation!
By Commodus on 1/6/2009 5:19:22 PM , Rating: 2
The HP EliteBook claim is more than a little misleading -- to get the 24-hour claim you need to order the best-possible battery configuration, which actually involves two batteries and a swap in between. The stock battery is still good but nowhere near the 24-hour mark.

Apple's claim is very impressive for a notebook with a 17-inch display and (in power-saving mode) 9400M video.


RE: Apple innovation!
By monomer on 1/6/2009 5:35:29 PM , Rating: 3
While the battery life is pretty impressive, their innovation really isn't all that amazing. Basically, they decided to go with a non-removable battery, allowing them to fit a larger capacity battery as they don't have to waste as much space for the battery enclosure.


RE: Apple innovation!
By kelmon on 1/7/2009 6:03:56 AM , Rating: 2
Whatever. I get about 3-hours from my current 17" MBP for normal use so 8-hours is pretty amazing. When everyone else can claim the same battery statistics, then I'll no longer be impressed.


RE: Apple innovation!
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 1/7/2009 7:18:26 AM , Rating: 2
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Whatever.

I hear this reply used a lot when people don't have a leg to stand on and they know it.

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I get about 3-hours from my current 17" MBP for normal use so 8-hours is pretty amazing.

Just because your current MBP uses old tech doesn't mean squat. Non-replaceable battery in a 17" enclosure can #1 cram more battery cells into the device, thus adding in more power. #2 the display is LED based this time around leading to less power requirements over old systems. I wanna see this thing run at 8 hours battery life without downclocking the processor and FSB into the ground. Until it can do that, 8 hours is nothing more than a gimmick for word documents.


RE: Apple innovation!
By andreschmidt on 1/7/2009 8:27:49 AM , Rating: 2
By all means, however, it should be reviewed "against" other 17" notebooks out there.

No doubt that this battery, together with the power management of Mac OS X, will make it shine against any other 17" notebook on the market.

Of course the processor downclocks like any Core 2 Duo. It is, afterall, designed that way.

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I wanna see this thing run at 8 hours battery life without downclocking the processor and FSB into the ground. Until it can do that, 8 hours is nothing more than a gimmick for word documents.


RE: Apple innovation!
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 1/7/2009 8:40:54 AM , Rating: 2
Right, but I think its rather screwed up that Apple, and for that matter every other computer company likes to claim long battery lives but the system is running not much faster than a Blackberry in most cases.


RE: Apple innovation!
By kelmon on 1/7/2009 9:37:02 AM , Rating: 2
Pardon? Correct me if I am wrong but you know bugger all about how the battery is constructed beyond what you have read. Given this, what honestly makes you think that the battery life delivered (and let's not forget that this refers to the length of a single charge and the total lifespan of the battery itself) is simply due to its physical size and using an LED screen?

Wait until the reviews come in and then you can jump down my throat. I too am interested to see what the real-world performance is but the attitude that this is some sort of sleight of hand without any knowledge of the product itself is just annoying.


RE: Apple innovation!
By kattanna on 1/6/2009 5:45:02 PM , Rating: 5
RE: Apple innovation!
By Gzus666 on 1/6/2009 5:49:03 PM , Rating: 2
That video was so hilarious, saw that last night.


RE: Apple innovation!
By WalksTheWalk on 1/7/2009 9:38:06 AM , Rating: 2
This is a great sendup!!

I love the one guy. "I'll buy almost anything if it's shiny and from apple."

That and: "We make simple...nothing's more simple than a single giant button."


RE: Apple innovation!
By callmeroy on 1/7/2009 4:18:37 PM , Rating: 2
i don't believe apple with batter life quotes -- look at their ipods....I really REALLY want to know what perfect conditions you need to do to get the battery life they claim an IPOD gets....I mean i think its a bit dishonest if you say x product gets 100 hours of battery life...only to find out that means if you have half the features turned off, no backlight on at all....etc.

My classic IPOD supposed gets about 3 TIMES the battery life I see out of it with normal use...and that's w/o the backlight being on most of the time.


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