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Privacy advocates concerned about a strict new law in Georgia which removes sex offender's online privacy

The latest scuffle over online privacy is brewing up in Georgia.  An aggressive new law is set to take effect today which will force sex offenders to hand over their internet passwords, screen names, and e-mail addresses to the government for monitoring purposes.  Several other states also have efforts that track sex offender's email and screen names.  However, Georgia, which has 16,000 registered offenders, will be the first state to demand the sex offenders’ passwords as well.

A similar law in Utah was already struck down by a federal judge, who ruled that it violated the privacy rights of an offender who challenged it.  However, that ruling was rather narrow as it applied to an offender tried on a military conviction who had never been in Utah's court or prison system.

Critics of the Georgian law say that it not only violates the privacy rights of offenders, but it also places undue stress on the already tight-for-cash Georgian law enforcement.  Sara Totonchi of the Atlanta-based Southern Center for Human Rights states, "There's certainly a privacy concern.  This essentially will give law enforcement the ability to read e-mails between family members, between employers."

State Sen. Cecil Staton (R.) who wrote the bill argues that it is necessary to strip the rights of some citizens to protect the rights to life and liberty of others, particularly children.  He states that the benefits of the bill, which will allow law enforcement to detect stalking by predators sooner "outweighs a lot of the rights of these individuals."

He states, "We limit where they can live, we make their information available on the Internet. To some degree, we do invade their privacy.  But the feeling is, they have forfeited, to some degree, some privacy rights."

Most states do compromise sex offenders’ privacy to some extent by making their addresses available online in registries.  However, Georgia and Utah are the only states to propose legislation to take offenders passwords, according to civil rights researchers.  Others argue the bill isn't tough enough.  While the bill threatens violators with a possible return to prison, some believe this won't deter many.

Says State Sen. Staton, "My hunch is, where there's a will, there's a way.  If people are intent on violating this law, there are many different ways. What's important is we have given law enforcement a tool."

One critical issue at stake with the Georgian law is lack of specificity.  While the law is clearly meant to target offenders seeking to exploit children, it does not differentiate by crime.  Thus those found guilty of underage consensual sex, public indecency, or other sex crimes will likely be forced to turn over their passwords as well, bringing into question whether the law is targeting who it intends to.



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I know the solution
By Breathless on 1/2/2009 9:28:23 AM , Rating: 0
Molesters of children who are convicted, and are obviously guilty (either by self admission or a ridiculous amount of irrefutable evidence) should be swiftly and brutally executed. Then there is nothing for anyone to worry about! Disagree? Lets take one of your kids and let a predator molest them. Then we'll talk. Certain scum should be eliminated so they don't reproduce. This way they get their due punishment for ruining a child's life and the rest of us don't have to worry about them doing it again! More child molesters would think twice if they knew this would be the punishment for their actions.




RE: I know the solution
By Gzus666 on 1/2/2009 9:58:35 AM , Rating: 3
You mean the same way murderers don't murder and thieves don't steal because they know the punishment? In the dark ages, the punishment for many crimes was horrendous but happened none the less. People like you are ignorant enough to think that punishment stops crime.

The point of our justice system is to have punishment that fits the crime and to rehabilitate the person if possible. Now, on that note I think they should change the three strikes law from life imprisonment to death, merely because they are obviously career and there is no rehabilitation at that point short of serious brain overhauls which we are not capable of at this point.

When it comes down to it, like most serious criminals, it is a brain dysfunction like any other. Sociopathy, schizophrenia, sexual "deviance", clearly these things stem from brain issues. Many criminals in fact fit into one of those categories and some others. It isn't something they control, it is merely an impulse from the brain caused by a dysfunction.

I do find it odd that someone could hate molesters and rapists more than they hate murderers, thieves, extortionists etc., most likely because of the dogma set on sexuality with people. But seriously, one just has sex with you, technically nothing more than assault. The other can destroy your entire life. Murderers clearly stop your life, thieves and extortionists can completely strip you of everything you have ever worked for your entire life, how are those not worse?


RE: I know the solution
By Breathless on 1/2/2009 10:34:31 AM , Rating: 2
Ok, to answer your objections in order:

No, no, no. I never said that severe punishment would ELIMINATE peoples propensity to commit terrible acts. I do know however that the fear of consequence DOES sway many people however. It would simply be to cut back on the amount of those who commit such things... People like me are smart enough to know this. As an example, some kids have liberal parents who let them do what they want and never punish them with physical discipline (just an example, lets not delve into this subject). Some have the opposite. The son or daughter of the liberal parent is generally disobedient and can feel free to do "bad stuff" with little fear of consequence, while the son or daughter of the parents like mine would be too afraid to get his head whacked off to do certain things. Granted, I still did bad things, but I'm smart enough to understand "I do this, I get whacked, and I don't wanna get whacked" so many times the knowledge of the consequence stopped me from doing things.

I agree, lets let the punishment fit the crime. You molest, you should die. You murder (with vicious intent and not in self defense or for other plausable reasons), you should die. Certain things deserve no rehabilitation, which brings me to your next point, which assumes that anybody (or many for that matter) who does these types of things is retarded or have brain malfunctions at the least. This is a convenient defense for these people. They, like me, have sinful urges that may be difficult to control. As an example, I believe I may have at least a partial addiction to the internet. I know and understand this, but I am perfectly capable of controlling the urge to spend all day online IF I CHOOSE TO. It is always my choice, just as it is always theirs. THEIR brain doesn't force them to do anything. They have voluntary control over their own limbs just like you, and can stop themselves from doing any violent or malicious act. God gives people this ability. Men in their defense say they cannot control it. Its just their sinful side. Certain sins are worthy of death, while others are not. My addiction related to the internet does not equate to a thief breaking into someones house in the middle of the night and robbing them or killing them. It is very convenient how many choose to take their element of self control out of the picture.

And I find it odd that you would get the idea that I don't hate murders and thieves and extortionists the same way I hate molesters and rapists! I don't know where you got the idea that I thought otherwise. Considering in context we are talking about the latter, it wouldn't make sense to bring up the other parties. I'd put them all in the same (or very close to the same) category my friend.


RE: I know the solution
By Gzus666 on 1/2/09, Rating: 0
RE: I know the solution
By Reclaimer77 on 1/2/2009 10:38:50 PM , Rating: 2
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When it comes down to it, like most serious criminals, it is a brain dysfunction like any other. Sociopathy, schizophrenia, sexual "deviance", clearly these things stem from brain issues. Many criminals in fact fit into one of those categories and some others. It isn't something they control, it is merely an impulse from the brain caused by a dysfunction.


Gzus I have had enough of your heavyhanded bullcrap in every topic that doesn't even interest you. You post to hear yourself talk.

Please fax DailyTech your various college degrees, since you seem to be an expert in all fields. Now apparently you're a criminal psychologist !

Brain dysfunction? You must be talking about yourself. Seriously, you can't honestly believe that nobody is responsible for their own actions. That anyone can do anything and just use the " he was crazy " or " temporary insanity " defense ? Are you that thick !?

I don't know why I bother with you. I have noticed a pattern. You jump into subjects you know nothing about and pick whatever angle that gets you the most press. But come on, defending child mollesters ? A new low.


RE: I know the solution
By Gzus666 on 1/3/2009 1:18:15 PM , Rating: 2
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Gzus I have had enough of your heavyhanded bullcrap in every topic that doesn't even interest you. You post to hear yourself talk.


You mean like freaking out at someone without refuting? Nice argument, if only it was filled with more than you throwing a fit like a child in the store.

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Brain dysfunction? You must be talking about yourself. Seriously, you can't honestly believe that nobody is responsible for their own actions. That anyone can do anything and just use the " he was crazy " or " temporary insanity " defense ? Are you that thick !?


Do you honestly think that the brain is not responsible for all decisions you make? It is what makes you, you. If you believe in some silly notion of a soul, then I truly look down on you. Or do you think that the retarded, schizophrenic and sociopathic alike are fake brain dysfunctions? Like if they just take responsibility for it, it will all be OK? Maybe if they believe it hard enough, it will just go away and the brain will heal itself.

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I don't know why I bother with you. I have noticed a pattern. You jump into subjects you know nothing about and pick whatever angle that gets you the most press. But come on, defending child mollesters ? A new low.


I know why you bother, cause you just want to hear yourself talk without actually refuting anything. I have noticed this pattern with you. If I wanted the most press, I would just go nuts like Pirks or PS3. I didn't realize acknowledging someone has a problem is defending them. If I acknowledge mental retardation is a real thing and caused by a dysfunction, am I defending them or making a statement on an issue?

Setting a precedent that we just kill people without trying to rehabilitate them means we are turning the clocks backwards to the Dark Ages. Clearly you don't understand the goal of a society. It is to have functional members that all assist for the greater good. Should we start shooting all the cripples because they are a detriment to society? They eat resources and give nothing back in some instances, effectively hurting society as a whole, I would venture that is worse than one kid getting molested.

But either way, try this: Put together a logical argument for your stance and present it. I will then respond with information from my stance, that is called a debate. Or would you prefer to just get all angry? I'm OK with that, you're so cute when your angry.


RE: I know the solution
By Reclaimer77 on 1/3/2009 2:48:35 PM , Rating: 2
The type of "brain dysfunction" you are talking about is impossible to test for. Difficult, at best, to diagnose. And can be easily mimicked or faked. Do you doubt that defense attorneys have turned a crime that was clearly premeditated into " I was insane " not guilty verdicts ?

quote:
Do you honestly think that the brain is not responsible for all decisions you make?


Of course. But that's your argument ? Nobody should be held accountable for what they do, because the brain decides everything ?

Or are you actually claiming that the majority of sex offenders were simply powerless to help themselves ? Odd that this "brain dysfunction" only manifests itself in child rape in adults that lead otherwise normal, even productive, lives.

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I didn't realize acknowledging someone has a problem is defending them.


/rolls eyes.

You know exactly what you are doing Gzus.

Sigh, and I fell for it again.


RE: I know the solution
By Reclaimer77 on 1/2/2009 10:25:50 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Molesters of children who are convicted, and are obviously guilty (either by self admission or a ridiculous amount of irrefutable evidence) should be swiftly and brutally executed.


Shows how liberal and gutless our society is when a comment like this gets downrated.

I couldn't sleep at night if I defended a sex offender, even over the Internet on a website. I would have absolutely NO problem with making sex offenders, especially of children, punishable by death.

Get real people. These are the worst kind of scum on the planet.


RE: I know the solution
By Gzus666 on 1/3/2009 1:42:55 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Get real people. These are the worst kind of scum on the planet.


Worse than mass murderers? Tortuous dictators that enslave entire societies? You have quite the warped world view my friend. Molesting a child is no different than raping an adult, it is merely rape, which is assault at best. Sexual Assault is even the proper term. Their life continues, so I don't see how this scales to death for you. Granted if they repeat offend then they are beyond our current scope of rehabilitation, so death would be the only logical choice as I stated previously.

Our justice system is meant to clean people up, not as an outlet for your misguided malice. It is there to have the punishment fit the crime and to try to make productive members of society out of the people it puts through. How many people have been let out of death row from DNA evidence alone? Clearly our system is not perfect, so you must give everyone a chance to reform.

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Shows how liberal and gutless our society is when a comment like this gets downrated.


Move to one of the fabulous Middle Eastern countries, I'm sure they would go right along with you. Of course they will change the term rape to be OK as long as you are a man following some indoctrinated drivel, but you seem like the kind of fellow that is OK with that. By their standards, everyone is "liberal", you will feel right at home.


RE: I know the solution
By Reclaimer77 on 1/3/2009 2:27:11 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Worse than mass murderers? Tortuous dictators that enslave entire societies? You have quite the warped world view my friend.


Why do you keep bringing up murderers ? This topic is NOT about them. Obviously if I'm in favor of executing child rapists, I'm in favor of capital punishment for murders. How thick are you ?

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Our justice system is meant to clean people up...


Some people can't be " cleaned up ".

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Granted if they repeat offend then they are beyond our current scope of rehabilitation, so death would be the only logical choice as I stated previously.


There is no such thing as a "one time" sex offender. Unless you just mean times they have actually been caught.

quote:
Move to one of the fabulous Middle Eastern countries, I'm sure they would go right along with you. Of course they will change the term rape to be OK as long as you are a man following some indoctrinated drivel, but you seem like the kind of fellow that is OK with that. By their standards, everyone is "liberal", you will feel right at home.


Yay ultra extreme arguments help your case ?

Again, I'm not sitting here pushing for it in case you didn't notice. I simply said I wouldn't have a problem with executing them. Call it apathy, but honestly, I can't defend the scum and I wouldn't care if they were executed.

Maybe you are a bit apathetic too ?

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Molesting a child is no different than raping an adult, it is merely rape, which is assault at best.


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