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The leaked Windows 7 beta 1 was remarkably similar to the feature-enabled version of M3, but generated a lot of publicity for Microsoft. Some are suggesting the leak was intentional.  (Source: ZDNet)
Who leaked Windows 7? Was it Microsoft? Or hackers? Or the 1991 Denver Broncos?

Microsoft's Windows 7 beta 1 was not officially intended for release until January.  However, the release somehow hit torrent sites this week.  Many, including commenters here at DailyTech, suspected the "leak" was really a clever ruse by Microsoft to drum up tech community excitement for its upcoming release.

Now Microsoft Watch's Joe Wilcox, an observer on all things Microsoft, has thrown in his support for such theories.  Mr. Wilcox writes:

Was this a craftily timed Microsoft marketing leak?

I sure as hell think so. It's certainly what I would do if I worked at Microsoft on Windows evangelism. The timing is perfect, from a marketing perspective. The leaked build hit BitTorrent sometime on Saturday, right after Christmas when the Windows geeks had nothing better to do and bloggers and journalists had nothing better to write about. The leaked build is designated "7000," which strongly suggests that the code is the same as forthcoming Beta 1, or close to it.

With the big announcements of MacWorld (January 5-9) and CES (January 8-11), still a week away, there was a relative quiet that was perhaps the perfect time for a Microsoft leak.  Still some are skeptical.  Microsoft's Steven Sinofsky, senior vice president of the Windows and Windows Live Engineering Group has clamped down on beta leaks and during his tenure there have been almost none. 

Still, more signs point to an intentional leak.  For one, Microsoft is acting unconcerned about the leak.  Mr. Sinfosky himself, in a sedate response to questions about the leak stated, "It is part of our normal testing process for testers to receive regular builds; however, the Windows 7 public beta is still expected in early 2009."

Some are reading his comments as an accusation that a partner might have leaked the beta.  However, if Microsoft did receive such a "hassle", it might have really been a gift in disguise. 

With Apple purportedly gearing up to announce a "near complete" version of its much anticipated Snow Leopard OS at MacWorld, it was all set to steal the public's eye.  Now Windows 7 has beat it to the punch, filling up online tech news columns with a washout of reviews and news headlines.

And with the competition between Windows 7 and Snow Leopard expected to be particularly intense, thanks in part to Apple's brand popularity and Microsoft's image problems, Microsoft needs all the help it can get to get the public excited about Windows 7.  So whether the reports that Microsoft has returned to its old ways and is intentionally leaking its betas for attention holds true, or if a rogue partner is to blame, the result is the same -- good news for Microsoft.



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I believe it was...
By Gzus666 on 12/31/2008 10:13:13 AM , Rating: 5
Colonel Mustard in the kitchen with the monkey wrench. Do I win?




RE: I believe it was...
By spuddyt on 12/31/2008 10:17:52 AM , Rating: 2
no, because he used the candlestick, duh


RE: I believe it was...
By therealnickdanger on 12/31/2008 12:30:33 PM , Rating: 5
"Leaking" a beta? Is there a scandal here? W7 has been available for torrent in one form or another for months already. Whether Microsoft itself or a tester placed it online for download doesn't really matter, it's a great new OS and is going to be a nice for Microsoft. As more enthusiasts like me download it and check it out, we'll be more inclined to encourage our computer-illiterate friends to use it. That's marketing you can't buy.


RE: I believe it was...
By JonnyDough on 12/31/2008 5:09:12 PM , Rating: 2
I agree. It really does make sense that they would release the beta to the hacking public via torrents. What better way to test for those early security leaks? It also gives the open public a chance to write drivers and programs, essentially cutting the time it takes for Windows 7 to become popular. They don't want another Vista on their hands, and there's no better way than a pre-release of the platform via torrents to get it out there and get some market penetration. Yes, I said penetration. Anyway, this gives them a chance to test anti-piracy measures as well before the final product release.


RE: I believe it was...
By Dark Legion on 1/1/2009 2:32:51 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
It also gives the open public a chance to write drivers and programs, essentially cutting the time it takes for Windows 7 to become popular. They don't want another Vista on their hands...

Fortunately, that's not really possible. All programs (as far as I know, but definitely all that I have) that work on Vista work on Win7. While they may not be optimized for it (I'm not sure if they have to be) they certainly work without a problem.


RE: I believe it was...
By robinthakur on 1/2/2009 9:18:04 AM , Rating: 2
Will it be the same lame anti-piracy measures from Vista? I guess it won't be dissimilar. Maybe they are checking that it can be pirated...


RE: I believe it was...
By therealnickdanger on 1/2/2009 8:37:40 PM , Rating: 2
What anti-piracy measures? You can pirate Vista just as easily as any other OS... you can also run any number of pirated apps on it as well. I've never quite understood where people get the impression about Vista featuring "anti-piracy measures".


RE: I believe it was...
By mmntech on 12/31/2008 10:22:38 AM , Rating: 4
Sir Bill in the boardroom with his pants down.


RE: I believe it was...
By Motoman on 12/31/2008 10:22:54 AM , Rating: 5
Totally Useless Mythbusting #1098532: There is no such thing as a "monkey wrench." The hand tool you are referring to is a "crescent wrench." Named, naturally, for the Fertile Crescent area of the Mideast where the dark lord of Egyptian death (and monkeys) Set battled the Indian sun god Mazda...when Mazda defeated Set, his decrepit corpse fell to the ground in the form of the crescent wrench. Mazda then proceeded to invent the affordable-yet-reliable compact car.


RE: I believe it was...
By Motoman on 12/31/2008 10:24:01 AM , Rating: 4
...heh. Before I even finished my first cup of coffee. I declare myself the winner of the internet! Yarr!


RE: I believe it was...
By Gzus666 on 12/31/08, Rating: -1
RE: I believe it was...
By Motoman on 12/31/2008 10:36:40 AM , Rating: 4
...other than the fact that you linked to the crescent wrench (they label it primarily as an "adjustable spanner") yourself...


RE: I believe it was...
By Gzus666 on 12/31/08, Rating: -1
RE: I believe it was...
By Motoman on 12/31/2008 10:49:48 AM , Rating: 2
Wow.

So, it was a funny little faux-history rant. It was just a bit of comedity. How do you not get that?

Having been a mechanic for many years, I know that, as a rule, mechanics are mildly annoyed by people referring to a crescent wrench as a "monkey" wrench. That's it. Then my freshly-awoken but insufficiently-caffeinated brain took it to a whole new level, man. Dig? And chill.


RE: I believe it was...
By Gzus666 on 12/31/08, Rating: -1
RE: I believe it was...
By Motoman on 12/31/2008 11:10:36 AM , Rating: 5
Oh, holy crap. It was a funny little tirade.

I'm dreadfully sorry you have no sense of humor. And please forgive me for not having memorized the little baubles in Clue, for surely if I'd have only been possessed of your wisdom and knowledge I'd never have made such and egregious error.

Chill. The eff. Out.


RE: I believe it was...
By Gzus666 on 12/31/08, Rating: -1
RE: I believe it was...
By Motoman on 12/31/2008 11:35:37 AM , Rating: 5
"Good morning, my name is Gzus666, and I'll be your jackass today."

What in THE HELL causes you to come out swinging like this? Man alive, you must be absolutely insufferable in RL.

I've never been a plumber. Have been a mechanic. Lots of people, mainly non-mechanics, refer to crescent wrenches as "monkey" wrenches. Your Wiki article aknowledges this in an odd way (seeing how as Wikipedia is such a reliable source) by directing people looking for monkey wrenches to the pipe wrench section...as in "sorry, you've mistakenly misidentified the tool that you're trying to mistakenly misidentify - it's over there."

All you've managed to prove today is your mind-bending ability to be an ass.


RE: I believe it was...
By Gzus666 on 12/31/08, Rating: -1
RE: I believe it was...
By Motoman on 12/31/2008 11:50:10 AM , Rating: 3
In the context I have repeatedly specified, that being as a mechanic referring to a crescent wrench, it is exactly the case. You seriously need to get over yourself. The world doesn't bend to your rules. You're very close to being assigned your very own sign...


RE: I believe it was...
By Gzus666 on 12/31/08, Rating: -1
RE: I believe it was...
By Motoman on 12/31/2008 12:01:59 PM , Rating: 4
Here's your sign.


RE: I believe it was...
By Gzus666 on 12/31/08, Rating: 0
RE: I believe it was...
By omnicronx on 12/31/2008 12:18:26 PM , Rating: 4
You guys are arguing over a wrench..


RE: I believe it was...
By Gzus666 on 12/31/08, Rating: 0
RE: I believe it was...
By DM0407 on 12/31/2008 4:14:04 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
quote: You guys are arguing over a wrench..


quote:
I believe I'm arguing about a wrench, he is seemingly arguing anything and everything but.


Now hes auguring with you about what he is auguring with the other guy about.... Good Stuff!


RE: I believe it was...
By Motoman on 12/31/2008 12:27:45 PM , Rating: 3
I don't have any idea what he's arguing about, since it clearly is the case that people mistakenly refer to crescent wrenches as "monkey wrenches." That point cannot be denied any more rationally than you can deny that the earth revolves around the son.

I think for whatever reason he didn't like (or his addled brain couldn't follow) my joke, so like all primitive beasts he fears that which he doesn't understand and lashes out. I made the mistake of trying to explain things to him...but there are plenty of times when trying to explain something to someone is the wrong thing to do - this guy is not interested in an explanation (where clearly none was needed), he just wants to be an asshole. Should have just let him.


RE: I believe it was...
By Gzus666 on 12/31/2008 12:31:35 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
That point cannot be denied any more rationally than you can deny that the earth revolves around the son.


Who's "son"? I was under the impression the Earth revolved around a large star we affectionately call the Sun.


RE: I believe it was...
By Motoman on 12/31/2008 12:38:51 PM , Rating: 3
Oh eff me. K. You caught me in a typo, I meant "sun" and I just didn't double-check my typing. Happy?


RE: I believe it was...
By Gzus666 on 12/31/2008 12:40:19 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Oh eff me. K. You caught me in a typo, I meant "sun" and I just didn't double-check my typing. Happy?


Now who doesn't have a sense of humor?


RE: I believe it was...
By Dark Legion on 1/1/2009 2:52:55 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, as if that was a joke.


RE: I believe it was...
By Borkil on 12/31/2008 8:10:41 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
You guys are arguing over a wrench..

you should have said C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!!!


RE: I believe it was...
By CloudFire on 1/1/2009 8:42:59 AM , Rating: 2
LOL nice killer instinct reference. this battle is epic btw. (probably going to get voted down for that)


RE: I believe it was...
By Motoman on 12/31/2008 12:23:10 PM , Rating: 1
Oooo...biting insight. That'll teach me to try to explain humor to an idiot.

...but wait! His name is "Gzus666" - that's irony! Oh snap! And so clever too! So he must have some vague recognition of humor, and therefore is just an asshole.

Grow the hell up.


RE: I believe it was...
By Gzus666 on 12/31/08, Rating: 0
RE: I believe it was...
By EnzoFX on 12/31/2008 3:48:56 PM , Rating: 2
Seriously, moto, you came off as entirely too defensive.
A. He missed your joke, so you could have simply ignored him
B. He didn't think it was funny, so... same... ignored


RE: I believe it was...
By Rb76 on 12/31/2008 3:22:01 PM , Rating: 1
Kind of sucks, Motoman, that Gzus666 obviously had piss in his Wheaties this morning.

Gzus666, it's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt...

You'd probably argue with someone saying that horses don't have assholes, but given the fact you've clearly proven you are one, I'd say that discussion would be rather short. Quit taking yourself so god damned seriously, have a coke, stfu, and smile. :-)


RE: I believe it was...
By Gzus666 on 12/31/08, Rating: 0
RE: I believe it was...
By Rb76 on 12/31/2008 3:59:30 PM , Rating: 2
Agenda? Just to drive my previous point home. Thanks for not only doing it, but knocking it out of the park. You are clearly an overachiever...


RE: I believe it was...
By Gzus666 on 12/31/08, Rating: 0
RE: I believe it was...
By DM0407 on 12/31/2008 4:19:28 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
As are you my friend, as are you.


I'm not your friend, buddy!

I'm not your buddy, pal!

Im not your pal, friend!


RE: I believe it was...
By Dark Legion on 1/1/2009 2:54:30 AM , Rating: 2
Aww we had to get that out of the way in only 1 post?


RE: I believe it was...
By inighthawki on 12/31/2008 4:30:05 PM , Rating: 2
No offense, but he is simply commenting on what you said, and i quote for reference:

" There is no such thing as a "monkey wrench." The hand tool you are referring to is a "crescent wrench.""

When in fact he linked you directly saying that a monkey wrench IS in fact a tool. Nowhere in your post, or his, did anybody mention anyone mistaking a crescent wrench for a monkey wrench. Sorry but you lose.


RE: I believe it was...
By Gzus666 on 12/31/08, Rating: 0
RE: I believe it was...
By Motoman on 12/31/2008 7:06:17 PM , Rating: 2
For the record, the term "monkey wrench" is at best a colloquialism...it's not the proper term for the tool.

A bit like the phrase "centrigufal force" when what you're really referring to is "centripital force," even though most laymen would go with the (incorrect) former terminology.

No one ever invented a tool and dubbed it the "monkey wrench."


RE: I believe it was...
By Motoman on 12/31/2008 8:08:56 PM , Rating: 2
To wit, I just searched the websites for Craftsman, Snap-On, Mac and Matco tools.

Craftsman, Mac and Matco return no results for "monkey." Snap-on smartly directs your dumb ass to adjustable wrenches...but also smartly doesn't label anything with the term "monkey."

Ergo, there is no such thing as a "monkey" wrench.


RE: I believe it was...
By zebrax2 on 12/31/2008 8:42:04 PM , Rating: 2
every one should just walk away now. come on its new year, cant you all be friendly ^_^


RE: I believe it was...
By Gzus666 on 1/1/2009 4:37:35 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
To wit, I just searched the websites for Craftsman, Snap-On, Mac and Matco tools. Craftsman, Mac and Matco return no results for "monkey." Snap-on smartly directs your dumb ass to adjustable wrenches...but also smartly doesn't label anything with the term "monkey." Ergo, there is no such thing as a "monkey" wrench.


Apparently you are too dense to read, so I will quote it for you.

"The monkey wrench or in the UK "Adjustable Spanner" is an adjustable wrench, which is rarely used today. Its use has generally been replaced by the adjustable-end wrench, which has a compact head and so is more easily used in confined places."

Pay attention to the "rarely used today" portion, as it explains why you wouldn't find it, champ. Also, take a peek at the picture. I actually have a legitimate monkey wrench in my collection of tools sitting in my double bay Snap On box. I also have a few pipe wrenches and your classic "crescent" wrench selection, or adjustable wrench as it is called.

"The term "monkey wrench" is also used colloquially (and inaccurately) to refer to the pipe wrench."

Look up pipe wrench and you will find it is nothing in relation to a "crescent" wrench.

Just for reference, I'm an ASE Master. Assuming you were a mechanic as you claim, I think you understand the meaning.


RE: I believe it was...
By Motoman on 1/1/2009 11:32:10 PM , Rating: 2
...rarely used today? Uh...what exactly are you a "master" of? Pipe wrenches and crescent wrenches are in large supply via any tool vendor.

It is absolutely effing amazing how totally backwards you are. You have no idea how much of an idiot you are, do you?

Thanks for making my last couple of days...if nothing else, you are absolutely hilarious!


RE: I believe it was...
By KashGarinn on 1/2/2009 5:14:51 AM , Rating: 2
motoman: you should have gone with "wooosh" as a reply to mr. sillyjism, or just skipped a reply as everyone can see an idiot/troll on the internet, no need to point him out.

A monkey wrench is defined as "Any wrench being held by a monkey" - A monkey in this regard is anyone who is a laborer and uses a wrench in his profession.

It's meant as a general derogatory term by those who consider real work as something to be looked down upon, so I'm not surprised that real men don't use it, and find it amusing that you are bickering about it.

at least this hasn't reached Godwins law yet.


RE: I believe it was...
By Gzus666 on 1/2/2009 9:40:52 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Pipe wrenches and crescent wrenches are in large supply via any tool vendor.


Correct, that is why I said only the monkey wrench is no longer a common tool, reading comprehension seems to be well above you head, but I guess I could have guessed that by your silly "Blue Collar Comedy Tour" reference. I have a feeling many of your shirts are missing sleeves and you have a beat up truck with many an empty Keystone Light can in the back.

quote:
It is absolutely effing amazing how totally backwards you are. You have no idea how much of an idiot you are, do you?


I will take this as "I saw the proof that I was wrong, but I will end it with trying to discount the presenter of said information without even dissenting with proof". In other words it would seem I'm so correct, you couldn't refute.

quote:
Thanks for making my last couple of days...if nothing else, you are absolutely hilarious!


That is like when religious people say scientists are hilarious in their idiocy. Ironic, don't you think?


RE: I believe it was...
By Motoman on 1/2/2009 11:05:59 AM , Rating: 2
...your stupidity is truly an awesome sight to behold.

quote:
Correct, that is why I said only the monkey wrench is no longer a common tool, reading comprehension seems to be well above you head


...your own freaking links when you started your parade of tardedness pointed out that pipe wrenches *are* "monkey wrenches" in as much as that's what the author of that Wiki (*koff*) article thought. As in..."monkey wrench" was synonymous with "pipe wrench" - and in the cases I pointed out, and oddley alluded to in the Wiki, the same goes for the cresent wrench. To say that neither pipe wrenches nor crescent wrenches are commonly used anymore is preposterous...and to then backpedal on your original posts and try to say, effectively, that "nevermind the stuff I posted originally, in fact what I mean to say is that a "monkey wrench" is seperate and distinct from other pipe and/or crescent wrenches, it is actually not a synonymous term colloquially used to refer to said tools, and rather was something that just isn't used anymore."

Giant-sized WTF? And here's another sign...clearly you need two. And if you'd like to continue to accuse me of being a redneck/white trash as your primary line of defense...well, I have to ask, who do you think winds up looking dumber when you say that? You're like the pot trying to call the kettle black, only that you're directing your tirade towards the white can opener instead.

quote:
I will take this as "I saw the proof that I was wrong, but I will end it with trying to discount the presenter of said information without even dissenting with proof". In other words it would seem I'm so correct, you couldn't refute.


...so, the fact that none of the major 4 tool vendors in the world have any record of anything called a "monkey wrench" isn't proof of anything? Oh, I forgot, you are backtracking on your original claim that "monky wrench" was synonymous with at the very least "pipe wrench" - but since I have thoroughly disproved the fundamental basis of your arguement, you have now chosen to pretend you were arguing about something else all the time!

And yes, religious people saying scientists are idiots is pretty funny. I am hopeful, however, that no one else attends your church. Does it hurt to be that stupid?

Oh, and as for KashGarinn's post, you're absolutely right. Everyone knows that the term "monkey wrench" was invented by the Nazis to, um, do something to the, er. Well, it was all Hitler's fault.


RE: I believe it was...
By Gzus666 on 1/2/2009 4:42:18 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
...your own freaking links when you started your parade of tardedness pointed out that pipe wrenches *are* "monkey wrenches" in as much as that's what the author of that Wiki (*koff*) article thought.


No, it said they are commonly mistaken for monkey wrenches. The biggest difference in a monkey wrench and a pipe wrench is smooth jaws on the monkey wrench because they had different uses entirely.

"That handy tool, the "monkey-wrench", is not so named because it is a handy thing to monkey with, or for any kindred reason. "Monkey" is not its name at all, but "Moncky." Charles Moncky, the inventor of it, sold his patent for $2000, and invested the money in a house in Williamsburg, Kings County, where he now lives.[1]"

There was even a patent on the tool as a different tool than the pipe wrench. Seriously, you are arguing with fact at this point and it is insane. Monkey wrench is a real tool which picked up it's name as a moniker of the inventors name, it had a patent filed and it is no longer actively used or sold.


RE: I believe it was...
By daar on 1/6/2009 5:32:13 PM , Rating: 2
what i found funny was how someone who spent a few minutes writing out a "joke" spazzed out (all the while using oh so original internet memes/phrases) over gzus doing what at'ers commonly do.


RE: I believe it was...
By Korvon on 12/31/2008 11:49:37 AM , Rating: 3
I thought it was pretty funny. If you didnt think so then why even comment. You wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning Gzus666?


RE: I believe it was...
By calculatedstepz on 12/31/2008 11:36:39 AM , Rating: 2
I found it funny and much more interesting than the article itself. :)


RE: I believe it was...
By tbird635 on 12/31/2008 11:28:12 PM , Rating: 2
As Joe the Plumber would say,
I'm sure it's a pipe wrench ;-)


RE: I believe it was...
By Fritzr on 1/1/2009 11:51:27 AM , Rating: 2
Even though Crescent is a trademark, it is also the generic term for an adjustable spanner with the distictive curved jaw.

Monkey wrench is indeed the pipe wrench which has a differently shaped jaw

Another famous trademark is Aspirin. It is Bayer's version of acetylsalicylic acid. They market it as a headache rememdy. Bayer Aspirin was so popular that anyone asking for this medication justs says aspirin when buying anyone's version of the remedy.

Become too popular and you just get lost in the crowd. Just ask Coca Cola ... they have a never ending battle trying to stop vendors who serve Pepsi Cola when the customers ask for a coke :D


RE: I believe it was...
By The0ne on 1/1/2009 2:48:25 PM , Rating: 2
You are correct. :)

And Motoman, just ignore Gzuzz666. He's really not worth discussing anything with as you had clearly see now. He doesn't give a damn about anything but goes at it with a diluted passion. That is just disturbing as a person.


RE: I believe it was...
By WTFiSJuiCE on 1/1/2009 2:51:38 AM , Rating: 3
All wrenching aside.

Great joke Motoman, lol'd irl.


RE: I believe it was...
By kilkennycat on 1/1/2009 3:11:06 PM , Rating: 2
The tool in question in the original (British) game is a "spanner", the correct term for what those trans-Atlantic borrowers of the English language call a "wrench" :-) :-)


RE: I believe it was...
By Rodney McNaggerton on 12/31/08, Rating: 0
RE: I believe it was...
By Gzus666 on 12/31/2008 11:03:19 AM , Rating: 4
quote:
and it's just another operating system for you to download porn on.


Hey now, we play games on it when we aren't downloading porn, jeez.


RE: I believe it was...
By Tsuwamono on 12/31/2008 11:12:54 AM , Rating: 4
Hell if your connection is good enough you can do both.


RE: I believe it was...
By afkrotch on 12/31/2008 11:22:38 AM , Rating: 3
Or you can do it at once and play porn games. Debbie does Dallas Adventures available on PC or Mac.

:P


RE: I believe it was...
By omnicronx on 12/31/2008 12:19:22 PM , Rating: 4
Leisure Suit Larry!!!


RE: I believe it was...
By Lord 666 on 12/31/2008 5:24:02 PM , Rating: 2
In the latest version of the game, the wrench has been dropped among two other "deadly weapons." Their replacements are the dumbbell, trophy, and poison.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluedo_Reinvention


Highly doubt it
By pixelslave on 12/31/2008 10:30:08 AM , Rating: 3
I highly doubt that it's an intentional act from MS. With a company as big as MS, such act must have been handled by the marketing department -- We all know how capable its marketing department is.




RE: Highly doubt it
By saiga6360 on 12/31/2008 10:33:11 AM , Rating: 2
I would investigate everyone in the 'I'm a PC' commercial... with a nightstick.


RE: Highly doubt it
By daar on 1/6/2009 5:36:02 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I would investigate everyone in the 'I'm a PC' commercial... with a nightstick.


i'd really enjoy seeing you attempting that on rashad evans :)


RE: Highly doubt it
By omnicronx on 12/31/2008 11:07:07 AM , Rating: 2
I see no incentive for MS to release it. Its suppose to come out within 10 days anyways, in which it would have been pirated to the same degree.


RE: Highly doubt it
By 9nails on 12/31/2008 11:27:32 AM , Rating: 3
I'd tend to agree. Microsoft has had public beta offerings in the past with a freely registrable code used to unlock and install the download. But these have all been widely known to time bomb after a period of time. I have no idea if this is the case with Windows 7 beta.

I won't go as far as to call you a liar, but can you back up the claim that it's supposed to come out in 10 days? Would that version be a "Technet subscribers only" beta?


RE: Highly doubt it
By omnicronx on 12/31/2008 11:46:44 AM , Rating: 2
CES starts January 8th.. It is expected that it will be previewed during CES, and released shortly afterward.

And yes, it will be a closed beta, not public, so only testers that were hand picked by MS.


RE: Highly doubt it
By WTFiSJuiCE on 1/1/2009 2:44:54 AM , Rating: 2
Total PR stunt that gets people away from talking about snow leopard OS and since it was due out 10 days from now, it really isn't a big deal to MS.

By leaking it on purpose, the speculation leads to tech sites writing about it, people read it, discuss on forums and by word of mouth and all mac can do is push out another john hodgman commercial.

To quote the guinness commercials: "BRILLIANT!"


RE: Highly doubt it
By FITCamaro on 12/31/2008 12:24:10 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed. I don't think they'd leak it just to get a few days early to fight off some Mac announcements.


So what?
By Nehemoth on 12/31/2008 11:23:21 AM , Rating: 4
So what?, well played MS.

I have Windows 7 here and I will install it in some hours to play a little bit.

To me this will be best MS OS ever after Windows 2003 (yes I know 2k3 is a server OS).




RE: So what?
By 9nails on 12/31/2008 11:29:51 AM , Rating: 2
Can you dual boot it, so that it exists peacefully with Windows XP/Vista? Or does this beta want to own the hard drive with it's own boot manager?


RE: So what?
By omnicronx on 12/31/2008 12:06:46 PM , Rating: 2
You can dual boot.. You can even remove the bootloader if needed.


Clearly a "best of" for Daily Tech
By Chaser on 12/31/2008 1:37:04 PM , Rating: 5
The "Monkey Wrench war" should be permanently inscribed to a new column titled The Best of Daily Tech under the sub category of "topics gone retarded".




By LeftSide on 12/31/2008 10:55:46 PM , Rating: 2
I second that!


It's obvious who did it.
By bfellow on 12/31/2008 11:02:57 AM , Rating: 3
I suspect it was Angelina Jolie. She was in Hackers.




RE: It's obvious who did it.
By Belard on 1/3/2009 9:50:12 PM , Rating: 2
Yes... but do you remember her lines when she was getting wet checking out the "new" notebook computer with her geek buddies? Something alone the lines "14,000 baud modem!", they actually said "fourteen-thousand"... or something like that.

Odd triva note: As happens a lot with movies. What you see in trailers are sometimes not in the movie. A nipple slip from a sex-scene not in the movie. ;)


Shenanigans
By Smilin on 12/31/2008 10:23:35 AM , Rating: 2
Shenanigans. MS has other ways to generate press coverage (trade shows etc) and they already have a robust beta program that will be getting even larger.




RE: Shenanigans
By Spivonious on 12/31/2008 12:58:35 PM , Rating: 2
Even if it was MS, who cares? The public beta is going to be released in a few weeks.


For the record
By allhaileris on 1/5/2009 3:52:10 PM , Rating: 2
The Crescent wrench is actually a brand name of an adjustable wrench. Many companies make adjustable wrenches, including Crescent. The same is true for Channellocks as well. Many companies make tongue-and-groove pliers (including Crescent). Calling them Channellocks is imprecise at best, and inaccurate unless they were manufactured by Channellock. Besides, Channellock makes many types of pliers. Just because idiots convene and conspire to replace the names of everyday items with particular brand names of those items doesn't give you the right to perpetuate the semantic abuse. Any mechanic ought to know better. If he makes his living with his tools, why would he have Crescent wrenches anyway? Get bloody Snap-On and the life-time guarantee that comes with them.




RE: For the record
By The0ne on 1/6/2009 2:45:08 PM , Rating: 2
That's because we have "Master" ACE mechanics replying and saying otherwise! So that means a coke is a soda and pepsi is not O.o!? Or something like that lol

/sarcasm off


Bloggers blogging about blogs
By Noubourne on 12/31/2008 1:06:25 PM , Rating: 3
A blogger said it on the internets!

It must be true!




Watermark code
By Uncle on 12/31/2008 7:40:23 PM , Rating: 2
Theirs a special watermark in the code, so microsoft knows where the original leak came from.




Huh!?
By DeepBlue1975 on 1/2/2009 9:12:11 AM , Rating: 2
Windows facing strong competition from Mac OS?

Oh yes... At MS they are surely very worried about the 3 stooges using Macs...




No proof
By jinx101 on 1/2/2009 12:16:17 PM , Rating: 2
This isn't news, this is gossip. So, a guy who makes a living being a conspiracy theorist says "Ya, that makes sense!" and all of a sudden it's news worthy? Opinions are not facts and unless these people are the ones that did it or know of the inside scheme specifically it's heresay and accusations, not proof.

I bet the moon landing didn't happen either did it?




Such a sorry state of affairs
By SkateNY on 1/1/09, Rating: -1
"Google fired a shot heard 'round the world, and now a second American company has answered the call to defend the rights of the Chinese people." -- Rep. Christopher H. Smith (R-N.J.)

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