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Ford lives up to the hype with the Fusion Hybrid

DailyTech has talked about the Ford Fusion Hybrid on two previous occasions. With each article, the car has grown even more impressive.

When DailyTech first visited the Fusion Hybrid, Ford boldly predicted that the vehicle would top the Toyota Camry Hybrid in the city by 5 MPG. A month later, we reported that auto journalists were able to extract 43 MPG from the Fusion Hybrid in city testing while a Ford engineer managed an even more impressive 46 MPG.

For once, it appears that an auto manufacturer is actually living up to the hype. The EPA has officially released mileage figures for the Fusion Hybrid and the vehicle does better than even Ford's initial projections of 38 MPG. In fact, the vehicle is rated at 41 MPG in the city and 36 MPG on the highway -- 8 MPG and 2 MPG better respectively than the Camry Hybrid.

The Fusion Hybrid is able to achieve high ratings in the city thanks to its fuel efficient 2.5-liter four-cylinder engine, CVT transmission, second generation hybrid system, and a lighter and more powerful battery pack.

"It's not just one thing, but thousands... We've optimized the heck out of that vehicle, it's individual components," said Fusion Hybrid program leader Praveen Cherian.

Ford's Fusion Hybrid can travel up to 47 MPH on battery power alone and will start at $27,270.

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Great, but wait for the Fiesta
By ghandithesecond on 12/23/2008 10:46:44 AM , Rating: 2
This is a great step forward for Ford, and I applaud them for not taking any bailout money.
I'm really excited for the Fiesta, however. The European version looks incredibly sleek, and Top Gear absolutely loves the car. The ECOnetic version, which isn't even a hybrid, gets 73.5MPG on the highway with a 0-60 time of 12 seconds (faster than a Prius).
It's really too bad that the EPA hardly allows any diesel cars into the US with their pathetic emissions controls. I don't see why a 10 MPG hummer is "more environmentally friendly" than a 75 MPG VW Polo diesel.
The EPA needs a drastic reform, and GM needs to get their act up and start making good diesel cars that get far better mileage than hybrids (not to mention far longer-lasting).

RE: Great, but wait for the Fiesta
By Fireshade on 12/23/2008 11:15:49 AM , Rating: 2
Get your facts straight: the EPA is not involved with "allowing products into the US" at all. The EPA only rates products on energy efficiency. Go visit

RE: Great, but wait for the Fiesta
By technohermit on 12/23/2008 11:26:32 AM , Rating: 2

The EPA does indeed stop these vehicles from coming in because they don't meet the "emissions standards."

And I don't understand the rules either. Naturally a diesel commercial vehicle cannot be expected to achieve 40 mpg, but an H2, hell and H1 Hummer is hardly a 53' semi. If it is for personal transportation, they should all be held to the same standard. If they cannot do it, don't allow production.

By RandomUsername3463 on 12/23/2008 12:02:27 PM , Rating: 2
Historically, the US has regulated particulate emissions much more heavily than European countries. (These particulates are carcinogenic, by the way!) This has excluded many diesels from the US. On the other hand, European countries have regulated C02 emissions more heavily than the US, favoring diesels.

European countries also typically set vehicle taxes by engine displacement. Diesels provide more torque (better acceleration) for a given displacement than a gasoline engine. The added cost of the diesel is offset by the taxes, so diesels are more affordable in Europe.

By Cheesew1z69 on 12/23/2008 1:46:19 PM , Rating: 2
EPA = Enviromental Protection Agency

Keyword 1 = Environmental
Keyword 2 - Protection

RE: Great, but wait for the Fiesta
By marvdmartian on 12/23/2008 11:19:15 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not 100% sure, but isn't the problem with imported diesel engines due more to the fact that they're not designed for the ultra low sulfur (<15ppm) fuel that's sold in the USA now?
Pretty sure that's why it's difficult (and expensive) to import them, if they're only designed to burn low sulfur (up to 500ppm) diesel, since re-engineering the engines would increase costs.

Anyone have any more input on this?

RE: Great, but wait for the Fiesta
By vulcanproject on 12/23/2008 11:47:17 AM , Rating: 1
Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel has been around in europe for some time now. its part of the modern euro IV standard. euro V is even stricter, probably around >10ppm as of next year for european diesel cars. modern european diesels with their particulate emission filtering technology and easy 50MPG plus economy are far more sophisticated than pretty much every petrol powered vehicle on america's roads. its incredible how much disdain is afforded diesel in north america for light vehicles, especially when hybrids like this fall a long way short of your average run of the mill modern european diesel saloon for economy

RE: Great, but wait for the Fiesta
By The0ne on 12/23/2008 7:13:07 PM , Rating: 2
our VP of Engineering commented that he had a old car (forgot name) that he had 15 years ago that ran 60mpg..on diesel. Yes, I think UK/Europe has a good advantage on MPG. MPG mind you.

RE: Great, but wait for the Fiesta
By Pneumothorax on 12/23/2008 11:48:32 AM , Rating: 1
Nope it's all due to emmision standards. Low sulfur fuel has made it EASIER to import euro deisels. The problem is our bone-headed EPA/(Especially CARB) demands that diesels have to make the same emission standards as gasoline motors when it comes to NOx/particulates, while euro standards are more lax on diesels. More than 50% of BMW's sold in europe are diesels.

RE: Great, but wait for the Fiesta
By otispunkmeyer on 12/23/2008 12:38:34 PM , Rating: 2
the boys over at Ricardos (well known automotive engineers here in the Uk...responsible for creating the veyrons DSG style gearbox) are almost onto a winner with the NOx issue.

their current prototype engine which uses what the are calling...Highly pre-mixed cool combustion (this utilises sequential turbo charging with the hi pressure stage before an EGR system and a low pressure one after the EGR system),

they do it like this so that they end up with a lot of highly mixed EGR in the to improve air-fuel mixing.

the engine is fed with a standard common-rail injection system and the system doesnt hamper performance. their off the shelf 2 liter diesel engine (which they modified obviously) still delivered around 160 bhp and 400Nm of torque

By otispunkmeyer on 12/23/2008 12:43:17 PM , Rating: 2
forgot to add

this engine already meets Euro 6 standards due in 2014 (80mg NOx level) and as it only produces 30mg it also meets the US' Tier 2 BIN 2... which is just above the ZERO emission group

ricardos believes that with additional work and appropriate exhaust after treatment, they could be looking at zero NOx at the tail pipe

By whirabomber on 12/23/2008 11:51:23 AM , Rating: 2
I am not at 100% on this but I do think chrysler offered a Liberty with a CDi diesel engine on a trial basis last year (or year before). Very limited run and was only 10-20% more MPG than the standard v6. Not 100% (more 75%) on the type of vehicle and years.

On topic of imported diesel engines and cars, Ford has stated that the only factories set up to produce (at least one) type of diesel car that can do 60mgp+ is in the UK. Ford also stated that $30k US is an acceptable price for a compact diesel in the UK but not in the US.

RE: Great, but wait for the Fiesta
By Penti on 12/23/2008 8:48:31 PM , Rating: 2
Hum, the Swedish diesel are even more stringent and we have had <10 ppm since 1991, but is typical somewhere between 2 - 5 ppm sulfur.

Now days some 35% of the new cars sold are diesels here.

Diesel is more expensive to make / buy though. But we have faired well even though the diesel consumption has essentially doubled in 15 years. The taxes are lower on diesel so for the most time it was cheaper at the pump.

RE: Great, but wait for the Fiesta
By Dribble on 12/23/2008 12:00:19 PM , Rating: 2
I agree a hybrid fiesta might work well - diesels seem a much better motor to build hybrids with - they are more efficient to start with, and have much more low down torque to shift the extra weight those batteries add.

That said I can see why ford don't bother - if your car is dirt cheap to buy and already returning > 70 mpg then the cost of an expensive hybrid system just isn't worth it.

RE: Great, but wait for the Fiesta
By UNHchabo on 12/23/2008 12:05:52 PM , Rating: 2
Top Gear absolutely loves the car. The ECOnetic version...

From the review you mention:
"I wouldn't bother with that particular model though, cause it'll almost certainly be sh-"

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