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  (Source: Reuters)
The cancellation of Jobs starring spot stirs health rumors, but the move could be mere politics

With the immense popularity of Apple and its bastion of fans that border on fanatical at times, there often comes an over scrutinizing of the company's moves. 

In particular, over the past year there has been much speculation as to the state of Apple CEO Steve Jobs’ health.  Jobs went through a very private battle with typically deadly pancreatic cancer several years ago and appeared to recover and be looking healthy the last couple years.  This year, however, some observers have opined that they think Jobs is looking sick and the disease may have reappeared and be worsening. 

In an ironic twist one newspaper even printed Jobs' obituary.  Apple has mostly refused to respond to these rumors, but when it has it has issued sharp denials that this is the case.

Given this background, when Mr. Jobs announced his decision to cancel his yearly keynote at the MacWorld trade show many jumped to the conclusion that the rumors were true and his illness was to blame.

Apple announced the development this week, revealing that Phil Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing, will take Jobs' place and deliver the keynote at Macworld Expo in San Francisco on January 6th, 2009.  In the past Mr. Jobs had always been on hand, typically to introduce new products; last year he had introduced the MacBook Air at the trade show's keynote address.

However, the real reason of Mr. Jobs exit appears to be more politics than health.

Trade shows' significance in the market has waned noticeably this year, partially due to the tough economy.  The word from Apple came just after Adobe announced it would not be attending MacWorld anymore.  With Belkin, Seagate, and Google also pulling out or downsizing their appearances, the fate of the show, according to some is at risk.

Along with the announcement that Mr. Jobs would not be there comes even more surprising news, which seems to verify that the cancellation was politics -- Apple will not exhibit at MacWorld next year.  Apple cites an improved direct relationship with its customer through its website as negating the need for the show, stating:

Apple is reaching more people in more ways than ever before, so like many companies, trade shows have become a very minor part of how Apple reaches its customers. The increasing popularity of Apple's Retail Stores, which more than 3.5 million people visit every week, and the Apple.com website enable Apple to directly reach more than a hundred million customers around the world in innovative new ways.

By exiting MacWorld an independent show, Apple stands to gain a tighter control on its public platform, with control something Apple always yearns for.

Despite these turn of events MacWorld's organizer IDG says MacWorld 2010 is still on -- with or without Apple. It states that it "Look(s) forward to many successful years of Macworld to come." 



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Time to Recharge.
By mikefarinha on 12/17/2008 10:30:34 AM , Rating: 5
Job's RDF power seems to be fading... must be time to recharge!




RE: Time to Recharge.
By TheSpaniard on 12/17/2008 10:33:52 AM , Rating: 3
its true the Reality distortion field has begun fading in recent months, what with AV and the commercials in Europe, he must be sick, we can only hope he recovers, for himself as well as I like going back to hey look at that white box filled with mystery


RE: Time to Recharge.
By MonkeyPaw on 12/17/2008 10:47:29 AM , Rating: 4
Well, the momentum Apple has is fading. While they've launched some popular products lately, the high price + recession is going to start slowing things down. Apple constantly says that they don't want to compete at the low end, but if they hope to keep their presence, it's something they have to consider. The sad thing is, Apple has convinced customers they are a premium brand when ultimately the differences aren't great enough for that to be a reality. If Apple did offer a low end product, I think they'd actually shed a lot of the hating they receive, but I honestly think they enjoy being infamous--if only for the free press.


RE: Time to Recharge.
By Pirks on 12/17/08, Rating: -1
RE: Time to Recharge.
By Pirks on 12/17/08, Rating: -1
RE: Time to Recharge.
By retrospooty on 12/18/2008 8:48:21 AM , Rating: 5
douchebag... that's my only comment to you.

If you can see why then I suggest you take along hard look at the real you.


RE: Time to Recharge.
By Pirks on 12/18/08, Rating: 0
RE: Time to Recharge.
By retrospooty on 12/18/2008 4:25:25 PM , Rating: 4
I am taking absolutely no side here... I am just pointing out the way you act.

Try this, just for the sake of argument. Read the post that you responded to, then read your reply, and pretend you just got to this website and arent involved and don't know either of you.

You really come off like and angry douchebag. Thats all I am saying.


RE: Time to Recharge.
By Pirks on 12/18/2008 5:47:03 PM , Rating: 1
Criticizing stupidity posted here by MonkeyPaw doesn't make anyone a douchebag, even you.


RE: Time to Recharge.
By retrospooty on 12/18/2008 6:21:04 PM , Rating: 2
"Criticizing stupidity posted here by MonkeyPaw doesn't make anyone a douchebag,"

No, your right, it doesnt.

You are not a douchebag for criticizing Monkeypaw - You are a douchebag for the way you act, having nothing at all to do with Monkeypaw. Seriously, read your own posts as if you dont know you, you will see what I mean.


RE: Time to Recharge.
By Quiescent on 12/18/2008 7:19:18 PM , Rating: 2
Stop feeding the trolls. Their egos get a good feeding enough as it is.


RE: Time to Recharge.
By Pirks on 12/18/2008 9:52:01 PM , Rating: 2
Bah, look who's talking, infamously dumb Apple basher Lady "I hate MBA even though I've never saw one" Quiescent is back!

retro, I act like this when I see stupidity posted. If people post stupidity you shouldn't blame me, you should blame them. Why should I act any different? Sure I can say "excuse me sir but you are dumb so please read this article" but does it change the matter? It does not, it's just a sugar coat on top of truth. Remove it and there's the bare truth underneath. I don't care about sugar coating, it's just takes time and effort to type all these "excuse me sir but...", I just go for the core of the matter and it's short and quick "MonkeyPaw you're dumb so read this article" and I expect others to reply the same. Let's do business quick, guys :)

Yeah, so bashing me won't help, retro. If you want me to shut up it's real easy - you just give me a worthy counterargument. A link to some research or an article that disproves me.

Calling names? Without arguments? Alright, we can continue entertaninig Lady "I hate MBA" here but what's the point?

If you don't have counter arguments to my post to MonkeyPaw, retro, then it does not make sense to post. I'm not gonna change my style, 'cause changing my style will change NOTHING. If I could change my style and MonkeyPaw and Quescent suddenly bacame smarter just because of that I WOULD HAVE DONE THAT A LONG TIME AGO.


RE: Time to Recharge.
By retrospooty on 12/18/2008 11:49:10 PM , Rating: 2
"I act like this when I see stupidity posted"

The problem is that your definition of stupid is anyone that doesn't care for Mac's

Its OK that some people dont like Mac's... In fact Apple recently and steadily growing to like 8% marketshare still means that more than 90% of people dont like Mac's, at least not enough to buy one. It doesnt mean they are all stupid. Let it go, and be less douchy =).

The truth is, 99% or more of computer users only need a computer to do email, browse the internet and use it for office apps - basic easy workload. Both PC and Mac are WAY more than enough computer for all of them. There really isn't any benefit to either platform for these users - except that in the business world, Mac is incompatible with most apps and networks - and in the consumer world they are too expensive for most people's needs. You dont need a high end computer to browse the web and get email - any old G4 mac or Pentium 3 PC would do the job easily. Let up on it, its been years, and you are stilll in every single apple article here flaming away at anyone and everyone that has a different opinion than you and doesn't worship at the altar of Jobs.


RE: Time to Recharge.
By Pirks on 12/19/2008 4:52:20 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The problem is that your definition of stupid is anyone that doesn't care for Mac's
No, retro, the real problem is that MonkeyPaw does seem to care about Macs, otherwise he wouldn't post his stupid suggestions for Apple to start making cheap low end low quality machines.

Isn't that clear that people who don't care about Macs do NOT post suggestions to Apple? If MonkeyPaw did NOT care about Macs he would NOT have posted here his stupid "make cheap machines Apple" comments AT ALL.
quote:
It's OK that some people dont like Macs. It doesnt mean they are all stupid. Let it go, and be less douchy
Yeah, I know there are some people who don't like MB, Lexus, BMW and Infinity cars, and it looks like they are still stupid because of that. Because, if you think of it, SMART person would not dislike some product because it's too expensive and fancy. If there's say a nice big diamond in the jewelry store, and you pass by and say "oohh aahh this diamond is so expensive, so I HATE IT! I DISLIKE IT!" then what would I reply? Of course I'd reply "you're freakin dumb idiot, retro, 'cause smart people DO NOT DISLIKE THINGS BASED JUST ON PRICE OR PREMIUM STATUS".
quote:
99% or more of computer users only need a computer to do email, browse the internet and use it for office apps
Yeah, I agree, this is true indeed. But there is the rest of the market, this one percent who has extra money and wants something more fancy and slick and cool than your basement made junk PC (which is absolutely fine for vast majority of people, I agree). So when some dumb idiot like MonkeyPaw starts posting stuff like "woohoo why are you Apple guys don't do those cheapo plastic junk PCs, huh? we need those cheapo PCs because we are the Mighty Majority". So freakin what? You stay majority, that's all right, but why make yourself look stupid? Apple deliberately caters to minority with their Mac computer line, what's wrong with that? If they don't want to satisfy majority - THIS IS THEIR OWN CALL, and stupid remarks by people like MonkeyPaw only make them (MonkeyPaws, not Apple) look stupid.
quote:
you are stilll in every single apple article here flaming away at anyone and everyone that has a different opinion than you
That's a lie. I only flame the most dumb posters, and even not all of them. Have you seen me flaming braindamaged cases like PLAYSTATION THREE? No? Well, think about it then :-)
quote:
doesn't worship at the altar of Jobs
[patting sleek black top of my Alienware M17] well, retro, I'd slam this nice black and HEAVY Alienware into your mug but... I know you're just misunderstanding me and you look not that stupid, so I'll reserve my Alienware for more stupid and more pathologic cases like SavagePotato and Co ;)


RE: Time to Recharge.
By headbox on 12/17/08, Rating: 0
RE: Time to Recharge.
By Pirks on 12/17/08, Rating: 0
RE: Time to Recharge.
By Calin on 12/18/2008 3:41:19 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Those who love far outnumber those who hate.


The opposite of love is not hate.
The opposite of love is indifference.


RE: Time to Recharge.
By kelmon on 12/18/2008 9:43:56 AM , Rating: 3
That's a bummer. I guess I'll have to get that tattoo on my knuckles changed, plus grow some more fingers...


RE: Time to Recharge.
By alphadog on 12/22/2008 8:54:18 AM , Rating: 2
Whoa. Somebody call Webster. They got it totally wrong.

(BTW, indifference means lack of interest. That interest can be brought about by "love", or "hate", or a million other things.)


RE: Time to Recharge.
By amanojaku on 12/17/2008 11:59:01 AM , Rating: 5
A little clarification here... The RDF doesn't "fade" as it is similar to the electromagnetic field. In fact, the RDF, like the electromagnetic field, has its own quantum: the Appleon. It is a mass-less (has no substance) particle of infinite spin with a positive electric charge.

The reality distortion field is the recently discovered fifth fundamental force of nature. It has exceptional range (10^1 m) when compared to the weak and strong forces. It is self-propagating in a vacuum, but is slowed considerably when it encounters matter of substance. It is responsible for altering the intrinsic characteristics of certain particles (up quarks become down quarks, electrons become antielectrons, etc...)

Common indicators of the Appleon and the RDF include a sudden need buy sexy, but essentially mediocre, items at 10 times their worth and the subsequent desire to "discretely" show them off to everyone.


RE: Time to Recharge.
By theapparition on 12/17/2008 1:31:11 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
In fact, the RDF, like the electromagnetic field, has its own quantum: the Appleon. It is a mass-less (has no substance) particle of infinite spin with a positive electric charge.

And every particle must have its anti-particle, the Microsofton. This particle apparently only carries negative spin. While never actually verified, it's existance is postulated since every time MS comes out with a ground breaking fantastic product, you can be there will be negative "evil empire" spin somewhere.


RE: Time to Recharge.
By Adonlude on 12/17/2008 4:26:12 PM , Rating: 3
Don't forget the most important particle of them all. Its mass is much much greater than the aformentioned particles and it carries no spin of its own. Instead it wholeheartedly eats up the spin put out by the other particles. It is constantly trying to attach itself to the newest products created by the joining of Appleons or Microsoftons. It never gets enough, it just wants more and more. This particle is also a slave to Moore's Law. It is called the Moron.


RE: Time to Recharge.
By makius on 12/18/2008 12:23:40 AM , Rating: 2
Haha, I knew there had to a logical explanation! Thank you for that, you just made my day.


RE: Time to Recharge.
By walk2k on 12/17/2008 12:32:48 PM , Rating: 5
Hmm... First Apple "Computer" changes their name to just "Apple", now they are pulling out of "Mac" World. Seems pretty obvious they intend stop production of Macintosh computers and become the just the company that makes iPods/Phones.


RE: Time to Recharge.
By kelmon on 12/17/2008 12:37:25 PM , Rating: 1
Hahahaha

You win the Intertubes for today.


RE: Time to Recharge.
By Dreifort on 12/17/2008 1:53:33 PM , Rating: 2
Steve wasn't wearing his plasma cloak last week when he got attacked by Steve Ballmer.


RE: Time to Recharge.
By Belard on 12/17/2008 7:00:52 PM , Rating: 2
What he needs is one of them Flux Capacitors along with Mr. Fusion... Then they will be called the iFusion.


Wait a minute...
By Spivonious on 12/17/2008 10:33:47 AM , Rating: 4
Apple isn't going to be at MacWorld? That would be like Microsoft not being at PDC.




RE: Wait a minute...
By SocrPlyr on 12/17/2008 10:42:31 AM , Rating: 3
It is even worse that that. MS isn't the hardware provider like Apple is.


RE: Wait a minute...
By Lord 666 on 12/18/2008 1:18:15 AM , Rating: 2
I'm hoping that Apple's next step is to open up OS X for use on all Intel platforms.

Talk about untapped revenue, open up the consumer base to all Core 2 Duo machines and newer.


RE: Wait a minute...
By Shadowself on 12/17/2008 11:53:16 AM , Rating: 4
Apple IS going to be at MacWorld. Jobs is just not giving the keynote.

Apple is not planning on being at MacWorld next year.


RE: Wait a minute...
By cscpianoman on 12/17/2008 5:08:25 PM , Rating: 2
As much as I don't like apple, I have to give Jobs credit for an incredible marketing production. Completely turning around a company that 5 years ago was on it's way out is beyond astounding.

I'm not sure why he is missing the keynote, maybe there is nothing to "key" in on, ie no new product, no earth-shattering announcment, etc. I sure hope it isn't a relapse of cancer. Cancer is nasty and is horrible to anyone who has it. If it is, I give my sincerest best wishes to him because I still want him around and strong so I can continue to bash Apple products, it's kindof fun. Losing one of the best icons of American history is a blow to us all. Despite the negative criticisms of Jobs, he is/has fulfilled the American dream. I only hope to be half as lucky. On the other hand, if it is all business then I'm sure Apple will continue to rake in the dough while we all tell them how horrible they are:P


Owned
By mfed3 on 12/17/08, Rating: 0
RE: Owned
By Shadowself on 12/17/08, Rating: -1
RE: Owned
By TomZ on 12/17/2008 12:25:02 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Charity is great, but profiting off your charity is not so great.
How can Gates "profit" off of charity? LOL.


RE: Owned
By HrilL on 12/17/08, Rating: -1
RE: Owned
By TomZ on 12/17/2008 2:41:14 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Its easy really. Rich person/company donates money to charity thus saving lots of money on taxes. Since rich person/company controls this charity they use it to by their products for the poor thus using money saved on taxes to gain more profits.
So are you seriously suggesting that Gates' charity has purchased enough Microsoft software to come anywhere close to the billions of dollars he's given away? I don't think so.


RE: Owned
By HrilL on 1/12/2009 6:22:52 AM , Rating: 2
Clearly this was taken the wrong way. I never said all the money is used in such a way but what I said does have truth to it.


RE: Owned
By callmeroy on 12/17/2008 4:29:44 PM , Rating: 2
Two things I think about if I were either insanely wealthy or famous -- and granted yeah, I do my share of hacking on the ultra rich or celebrities , but I do think I'd cut them a little break on two things -- 1) Giving them some credit for honorable deeds done with their wealth and 2) Their right to privacy.

If what, HrilL, you are saying is going on in Gates case - I'd love to see the proof then judge from there -- however I think its messed up how the first conclusion nearly anyone makes when they hear or read about a wealthy person donating to charity is "Well there's their little tax shelter" or "They are only doing it for the taxes"....I'm pretty cynical myself -- but even I find it hard to believe the every single rich person (let's say millionaire and above) SOLELY donates to charities because of the tax write offs and nothing else. That's just too much cynicism (sp?) even for me.

And btw, even if the only reason a rich person donates is for some tax write-offs, if they do nothing illegal or unethical -- why do I care or why should ANYONE care...its good they are donating either way.

Finally, ANYONE -- even if you aren't rich get the same rule applied for qualifying charities -- you can write it off your taxes so why is it somehow ok or not talked about if I can only donate $1,000 a year to charity, but it just HAS to be something nefarious is going on if I'm donating $100,000,000 to charity?

Despite the stupid, evil and revolting people in this world I still believe people are NOT inheritantly "evil" or "bad".


RE: Owned
By HrilL on 1/12/2009 6:32:51 AM , Rating: 2
This was taken the wrong way. I was just pointing out that some charities and companies do such things. What part of buying computers with one of your major donors software preinstalled... doesn't = money saved = money earned. Not all but some and probably a large sum since we are dealing with 100s of millions... I wouldn't be surprised if the hardware companies were not also large contributors...

Not once did I say all rich people and charities do this kind of thing. Also you should always check to see how money actually makes it to the people in need because some of them have administrative fees of 60% of your donation. Just because they have charity in their name doesn't mean they don't have ulterior motives.


RE: Owned
By bnutz on 12/17/2008 12:57:19 PM , Rating: 2
You don't think Steve Jobs is more of a monopolist that Bill, can't put OS X on any computer and the way they control iphone apps, most software apple makes is for Apple only. Some say it's quality control I say it's greed and power.


RE: Owned
By inighthawki on 12/17/2008 4:16:01 PM , Rating: 2
Also, to say microsoft is a monopoly now is actually quite ignorant if you ask me. Companies use windows because its what everyone already uses, not because Microsoft bribes them or anything. windows now works on multiple platforms including apple hardware, and microsoft has many programs such as the office suite for OSX. They don't limit the software available on their platforms, and provide easy to use developer tools for the people. Providing software for your own platform also does not count as being a monopoly.


RE: Owned
By TomZ on 12/17/2008 8:43:30 PM , Rating: 2
It's a fact that Microsoft has a monopoly in each of at least the following three areas: desktop operating systems, browsers, and office suites. Monopoly in this case is defined as having a controlling market share.

Because of their monopoly status, they have to make sure they don't run afoul of antitrust laws. After all, having a monopoly is not in itself illegal; it's what you do when you have a monopoly that could be illegal.


Makes Business Sense...
By kelmon on 12/17/2008 11:57:08 AM , Rating: 2
...but certainly is bad news for the community. For Apple, this news means that they can release products when they want rather than having a mandated calendar date each year to bring out something new just after Christmas. So, from a business perspective not doing MacWorld probably makes a lot of sense. However, for the Apple community this is just bad news since it is a big event for it each year and now it will likely go the way of the dodo. WWDC will no doubt continue since that is something vital for Apple (much like WinHEC is for Microsoft) but that's expensive to get into and only of interest if you are a developer.

I really hope that MacWorld continues without Apple but I have my doubts if all the big names pull out.




RE: Makes Business Sense...
By Alpha4 on 12/17/2008 12:12:18 PM , Rating: 2
I'll admit I enjoy the mystique of Apple Inc product launches. Quality of their products aside, their presentations seldom fail to impress. But if Apple opts to further develop their products instead of potentionally rushing to meet expo target dates then customers only stand to gain in the long run.


RE: Makes Business Sense...
By kelmon on 12/17/2008 12:26:01 PM , Rating: 3
Well, say what you like about the man but Steve Jobs is someone who knows how to give a good presentation. Apparently it is the preparation and practice that is the key, which is a shame since my own presentations never happen like that.


RE: Makes Business Sense...
By kelmon on 12/17/2008 12:21:49 PM , Rating: 2
Hmm, looks like the fallout continues. It has been announced that there will be no Apple Expo in Paris in 2009, although Apple hadn't attended that show for the last few years. This is a shame as I can actually go to that one since it is (geographically speaking) just down the road from me. Just a shame that it's in Paris and I generally don't have a good time in that city...

http://www.macworld.com/article/137605/2008/12/app...


Actually..
By whirabomber on 12/17/2008 11:19:32 AM , Rating: 5
..Jobs has been a 3D holographic projection (animation courtesy of Pixae) since he died a few months back. Someone stole the laptop with the only copy of the Jobsitron so Pixar needs a few months to re-create him.




If Jobs goes...
By Bucky Beaver on 12/17/2008 10:31:11 AM , Rating: 2
So will Apple. El Jobso is what brought the company back from the dead...




RE: If Jobs goes...
By kelmon on 12/17/2008 11:51:15 AM , Rating: 2
Sort of, but I will argue that Jonathan Ive is more important. That said, I've not seen a better salesman in the Apple camp than Steve. When they drag up the likes of Phil, Scott or, god forbid, Betrand, then I have the urge to go and hide behind the sofa.

Sure, the CEO is an important man but he's not irreplaceable - you just have to find someone else good.


Interesting Spin
By Shadowself on 12/17/2008 12:11:11 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Given this background, when Mr. Jobs announced his decision to cancel his yearly keynote at the MacWorld trade show many jumped to the conclusion that the rumors were true and his illness was to blame.

Apple announced the development this week, revealing that Phil Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing, will take Jobs' place and deliver the keynote at Macworld Expo in San Francisco on January 6th, 2009.


My understanding is that Apple announced that Steve Jobs would not be doing the MacWorld keynote (it should be noted that it is the MacWorld keynote and NOT Steve Jobs' keynote) at the same time it announced that Phil Schiller will be doing the MacWorld keynote.

There was absolutely no mention as to whether Steve Jobs would attend MacWorld nor whether Steve Jobs will do a cameo during the keynote. It is just as possible that Steve Jobs will show up for "one more thing" and announce a new product at the end of Phil Schiller's keynote as it is possible that Steve Jobs will not attend at all.

Anything other than the fact that Steve Jobs will not give the keynote is pure speculation.




RE: Interesting Spin
By kelmon on 12/17/2008 12:36:00 PM , Rating: 2
The thing is, as much as Phil is a jolly chap who seems to be likable, the man just cannot present. I download the Stevenotes but I'm honestly not sure I'd bother to do the same for Phil. He just seems a bit goofy and therefore I fast-forward past his bits. Scott Forstall is tolerable but not by much. For some reason Steve Job's presentations are almost entertaining, despite them being nothing much more than a very grand PowerPoint (well, Keynote) show. Given the fairly whizzy demonstration videos that they seem to be making on their website following an announcement, I think I'll just go straight to that.


By IcePickFreak on 12/17/2008 5:36:07 PM , Rating: 4
Jobs isn't really dying, he's preparing for the trip home. When the day arrives and Jobs sheds his mortal coil and returns home, all Apple products will simply vanish and all of us lesser beings will sacrifice ourselves for foolishly squandering our time with our true saviour, Jobs. The women and children shall shed tears, and the men will sing songs so as to never forget. Scriptures will be written (Yes written, PC users will repent or be cast into flame) about his teachings & sheer brilliance and compiled into the iBible.

Repent now my brothers and sisters, before it is too late! Strike down your PC, your dumbphones, and your Zune players. At once, show your faith in Jobs and purchase a Mac, iPhone, or iPod before it is too late.

Forgive me Jobs, for I typed this from a PC.




This was inevitable and already in motion.
By RolfSchewe on 12/17/2008 3:09:20 PM , Rating: 2
I don't see the controversy. The only issue here is the sudden change without notice. People are all riled up because Apple made the move on their own terms and they are now only able to react after the fact. We are in a slow news cycle and there is nothing else to talk about.

Just take a look at Apple's event schedule from last year. http://www.apple.com/quicktime/guide/appleevents/ March and October had events that were not one of these yearly set-in-stone conferences like MacWorld or CES. I think you will just see more of those smaller type events and venues.

Product cycles do not conform to conference schedules nor should they. These events should be scheduled when there is a product announcement ready.

These annual conferences should continue but be scaled down and focused on the community and for a useful purpose like WWDC which is for developers. Maybe Apple can send representatives from the Dev team to attend WWDC and have a presence and MacWorld. The days of these behemoth conferences are going the way of Comdex or at least going to be scaled down dramatically.

This is all about Apple reclaiming control of their message and having more flexible product cycle announcements.




By kelmon on 12/17/2008 3:26:11 PM , Rating: 1
Well, the timing was pretty shitty. It's kinda like announcing that Santa's can't be arsed to turn up for Christmas on Christmas Eve. If they'd done this a few months ago then I'm sure it wouldn't have been a problem. It just puts a crimp on the event next month announcing it just a couple of weeks away.


From Mac to Ipod...
By Bardan on 12/18/2008 3:05:42 AM , Rating: 2
In the world of tech there are 4 polls of people, the PC "geek's" for lack of a better word, the Apple "fan boys" again for lack of a better word, and then you have the "I need the latest and greatest" group and then "please just give me something that works" group.

Apple does very well with its fan boys, less well with the PC geek's and for good reason. I enjoy overclocking my TI-89, how can Apple expect me to be ok with a phone that I am under strick rules on what I can and can't do with it.

The other 2 groups love Apple products, becouse they are hip and cool, and just plain work, but it cost you more. I had a Macbook Air for a few weeks on loner from my school, its was great. No better then my Asus Eee, but it was a good netbook/notebook. However it cost a lot more then my Eee did... and this is where apple gets in trouble. Pre the Crash of 2008, everyone was willing to pay a good amount more to get something a little bit better. But these days people want a LOT better for a little bit more money.

Things like Ipods and Iphones will allways sell as they are, after all cheap to buy. I mean the Iphone is still overpriced for what it offers, but its cool and won't max out your credit card. However, a MacBook Air, WILL max out one's credit card, so people are going to stop buying them and start picking up the massive number of cheap netbooks that are everywhere.

Desktops on the other hand are, to be honest dead. Unless you need the power they offer, desktops are a thing of the pass, like land phonelines. The geeks and nerds will allways have their desktops, so they can fiddle and try to get a Corei7 to 5ghz, but as they do that they are allso checking their myspace on their netbook.

Apple has found its place, and its with the Iphone/Ipod/Ip-001 land. Desktops are gone and laptops are getting to cheep for Apple to compete. Pulling out of MacWorld is just Apple's way of saying "we will sell you a Ipod forever, but the whole desktop/laptop computer thing, yah we are kinda going to start phaseing that out".

Windows 7 is such a GREAT copy of OSX UI ontop of Vista's very very very good code, (please don't come back and tell me vista is a horid OS, becouse its not, sure it needs a good computer to run it, but thats just progress. Go install OSX on a 1st gen Imac, it does not run that well, trust me) that soon apple will lose the only reason to really by a $2,000 MacBook Air over a $400 Asus Eee, its OS.

Maybe I am wrong with all of this, who knows. But in our current world of people wanting so much for spending so little, Apple is going to be in trouble. Right up there with Organic food, Convertibles, The Disney Channel and AT&T wireless....




RE: From Mac to Ipod...
By kelmon on 12/18/2008 3:27:44 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
Windows 7 is such a GREAT copy of OSX UI ontop of Vista's very very very good code, (please don't come back and tell me vista is a horid OS, becouse its not, sure it needs a good computer to run it, but thats just progress. Go install OSX on a 1st gen Imac, it does not run that well, trust me) that soon apple will lose the only reason to really by a $2,000 MacBook Air over a $400 Asus Eee, its OS.


Just a couple of points. The 1st Generation iMac is over 10-years old and I think you'd have been hard pressed to find a PC that old that would run XP acceptably, let alone Vista. I have used OS X on such a machine, briefly, and it seemed OK. However, I can confirm that the current version of the OS runs very nicely on a 7-year old PowerBook.

The other thing is that it is NOT the OS that makes a computer - it's the software that runs on it. No one buys a Mac for OS X. Rather, they buy it to use the software available for the platform. This is the reason why I don't see an EeePC as being a competitor to the likes of the MacBook. If something won't run your software then you need to go through a switching process and people generally aren't prepared to do that. An EeePC is much more of a competitor to other Linux-based Notebooks, or cheap PCs if it is running XP. So, Apple may not increase its sales at the current rate over the coming years because its products are relatively expensive, but it also is unlikely to lose existing customers to other platforms due to the hassle of switching.

Aside from that I agree with your position entirely.


Not correct
By Shadowself on 12/17/2008 12:02:12 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Jobs went through a very private battle with typically deadly pancreatic cancer several years ago and appeared to recover and be looking healthy the last couple years.


There is more than one form of pancreatic cancer. The form Jobs had is not "typically deadly". It is very treatable with an very good recovery and 5 year "cure" rate. (Cancer docs don't like to talk about "cures". As Jobs and Apple have stated he's been "cancer free" for over 4 years.)




Trade Shows going away.
By cochy on 12/17/2008 1:42:36 PM , Rating: 2
Novell also just canceled BrainShare yesterday.




By gochichi on 12/17/2008 3:10:58 PM , Rating: 2
I've never gone to MacWorld but I do keep track of it. There's a build up to it.

Apple has traditionally gotten away with selling outdated products because they only refresh once or twice a year (sometimes less, and seldom more). But then their releases are a big deal and getting a Mac is a decent deal for that first month.

It might have a lot to do with leaks, maybe they see it as easier to keep their product releases private if they don't have to do these conferences. Plus, if there is a leak, they can react to it and make an official announcement or whatever without clinging to a hard date.

I don't think it's health related, but if it is... that's really bad news for Apple. I can't think of any other company that depends on its CEO more. He's a control freak and the company is in no way ready to run without him. Even with Jobs it might fizzle (Microsoft is not kidding around in the horizon, touch, tighter code, voice recognition is already really good and getting better, 64-bit transition done) and who REALLY needs or wants an iPod that doesn't already have one?

Apple is on really thin ice by depending so much on one person. Especially since the world is setup to run perfectly fine without Apple, but Apple can't run without Jobs. Minus the Jobster and the world will move away from the monopoly.




Dollars to donuts
By peldor on 12/18/2008 9:13:16 AM , Rating: 2
Jobs shows up with "one more thing".




So, Apple fans...
By DanoruX on 12/17/2008 12:51:38 PM , Rating: 1
Where is your god now? ;-)




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