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Application-less copy and paste finally hits the iPhone via Pastebud, a Safari javascript hack page. And there's nothing Apple can do about it -- well, except to update Safari to block the service.  (Source: Pastebud)
Apple is making the iPhone easier to activate and a third party is trying to make up for another important shortcoming of the phone

Are you a couch potato looking to score America's best selling phone?  Apple and AT&T now have you covered. 

With the release of the 3G iPhone, a noticeable change was the at-home activation being mostly dropped (though still available in some circumstances).  Now Apple has quietly announced the full return of the feature, allowing users to order and activate all from the comfort of their favorite sitting spot in their home.

Be warned, though -- if you're looking to get an iPhone for $199 through online ordering and then activate it and be on your way to unlocking, you will be in for an unpleasant surprise.  Apple requires billing information for the activation process, and should you choose to fail to go with AT&T you will be hit with a big early termination fee.

Still the addition of home activation is good news for some potential buyers.

More good news for iPhone users has also arrived.  Clever programmers have come up with an iPhone copy and paste hack that is free and doesn't need an app store application to run.  It uses javascript and bookmarks to enable copy and paste in Safari.  A bookmark is used to prepare a page with text you want to copy.  You then merely highlight the text you want.

The application, named Pastebud, then allows you to create a message with the text copied into it, or lets you copy it into a text field in a separate Safari window.  The service should work for both the iPhone and the iPod Touch.

Jed Schmidt, creator of Pastebud, has nearly finished testing of the application and is "putting the finishing touches on the web site before launch".

While Apple may not like that the page gives users access to this simple feature it has long denied them, there is little it can do about the development.  Since the item is not an application, but merely a webpage, it is entirely legal.  It should work, once the page goes up – that is until the next update of Safari blocks it at least.



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Haha, what?
By therealnickdanger on 12/11/2008 1:57:45 PM , Rating: 5
I'm not an iPhone user, so I don't pay much attention to them. You're telling me that up to now they could not copy/paste? LMFAO Ancient Palm and Windows devices could do this!




RE: Haha, what?
By JasonMick (blog) on 12/11/2008 2:04:55 PM , Rating: 3
You must have been under a rock when it came to iPhone news ;)

Yea its amazing, but true. Steve Jobs and other Apple execs have adamantly refused to support it because they felt it wasn't that important.

Ironically Apple implemented C&P 15 years ago on a touchscreen product -- the Apple Newton:
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/09/07/apple-solved-...

Not implementing it is just arrogance IMO.


RE: Haha, what?
By sprockkets on 12/11/2008 2:11:49 PM , Rating: 2
Wow, copying and pasting in Safari, that makes up for the lack of that function in the whole lousy phone. Better than nothing, huh?


RE: Haha, what?
By quiksilvr on 12/11/08, Rating: -1
RE: Haha, what?
By invidious on 12/11/2008 4:25:07 PM , Rating: 3
Open source apps are not a free lunch, you get what you pay for 99% of the time. Some or many of Android's free apps will be great, but the same is true of iPhone free apps.

Truely great products cost money to make and thus cost money to use.


RE: Haha, what?
By drzoo2 on 12/11/2008 8:43:49 PM , Rating: 2
Please separate the Free as in free AOL from "free" as in Open Source/freedom of the user. They are NOT the same thing. Open Source doesn't have to cost $0

I agree there is plenty of OS software that it far from polished, but there are a lot that rival "Truly great Products"

z


RE: Haha, what?
By Hieyeck on 12/12/2008 9:56:15 AM , Rating: 2
Why'd this get rated down? Do most people even know how open-source apps are developed? It's not written entirely by nerds avoiding windows in their mother's basement, it's mostly written by real people working for companies such as IBM and Sun. Those companies donate their employee's time and infrastructure (such as websites). In fact, some departments mandate that their employees work on such projects, while recieving their full pay. It's hardly a 'free lunch'.

Why do companies forward such ventures? Just like Microsoft gives out free copies of Windows in colleges and universities around the world, Companies like IBM and Sun want you to use open source, so they can sell you their support services.


RE: Haha, what?
By deeznuts on 12/11/2008 2:57:03 PM , Rating: 2
I'm new to all this, and deciding between an iphone and a bold. What are their responses to C&P outcry?


RE: Haha, what?
By djc208 on 12/11/2008 3:54:31 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Yea its amazing, but true. Steve Jobs and other Apple execs have adamantly refused to support it because they felt it wasn't that important.


Or they wanted to have some reason to get people to pay more money for an upgrade in the future. Otherwise you might have to spend real time and money developing actual improvements for the device instead of just releasing 90% functional hardware and charging people to upgrade to the slightly different 91% functional hardware later.


RE: Haha, what?
By swampjelly on 12/12/2008 10:22:33 AM , Rating: 2
nope....Iphone updates are free


RE: Haha, what?
By lagitup on 12/13/2008 2:06:25 AM , Rating: 2
he was referencing the difference, or lack thereof, between the original and the 3g


RE: Haha, what?
By amanojaku on 12/11/2008 2:10:45 PM , Rating: 5
You must not read the iPhone articles on DT. Everyone brings it up, particularly me. A $200-$500 smartphone that can't cut and paste... What's next, luxury cars with no radios?


RE: Haha, what?
By therealnickdanger on 12/11/2008 2:19:54 PM , Rating: 4
I may have read it before, but not fully cared. It took a headline like this for me to truly grasp it.


RE: Haha, what?
By choadenstein on 12/11/2008 2:37:07 PM , Rating: 4
The thing I hate most about the iPhone (as an owner) is that you can't picture message people...

On incoming messages you have to log into a stupid website with a random password/ID.

No outgoing pic messages... If you want to send a picture, you got to e-mail it.

I don't know if this has changed on the 3g, but I have the old one... and so far nothing


RE: Haha, what?
By Reclaimer77 on 12/11/2008 2:57:49 PM , Rating: 5
Thats not all. The I phone could not cut'n'paste. Could not use IM. Could not use MP3's for custom ringtones. Could not use MMS. Could not voice dial. Could not record voice. Could not change your own battery. And your phone was held hostage to Apple for new software updates because Apple didn't allow anybody to develop apps for it untill 1+ years later.

Basically if you bought an I-Phone you're a yuppie idiot drinking the coolaid.


RE: Haha, what?
By cbmeeks on 12/11/2008 3:06:46 PM , Rating: 3
Yes. I bought an iPhone and now I regret it. Not too much though because the browsing experience is good for a mobile device and that is why I really wanted it.

quote:
you're a yuppie idiot drinking the coolaid


And that would be Kool-Aid. And you're calling us an idiot. lol

Nah...I'm just messing with you.


RE: Haha, what?
By sprockkets on 12/11/2008 4:31:26 PM , Rating: 2
Hey, does it even do ringtones via your bluetooth headset? If not, this phone, save for having wifi and a slick interface is years behind a Motorola A1200.


RE: Haha, what?
By Reclaimer77 on 12/11/2008 4:55:11 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know honestly. But signs point to NO probably lol.


Apple & iPhone Copy & Paste
By Shadowself on 12/11/2008 4:58:01 PM , Rating: 3
Apple's official statement is that they have surveyed their current and likely future iPhone customers and while Copy & Paste is desired it is not a high priority with those individuals surveyed.

The question that should be asked is, "Who were those surveyed? People who have no interest in moving text from one application/file to another?"

Apple has stated that Copy & Paste is most definitely coming. It should have been there no later than when the 3G iPhone was shipped, but it wasn't.

I suspect the real story has two parts.
1. Currently only one app or file can be open at one time. Thus it is difficult to copy & paste back and forth as there is (as far as I know) no universal "clipboard" in the iPhone OS.
2. Apple "interface design team" is spinning in circles trying to come up with the most wiz-bang, futuristic methodology to do Copy and Paste. Since they have not hit upon this miracle way to do it, they won't go forward and just implement something that just works.




RE: Apple & iPhone Copy & Paste
By Alexstarfire on 12/12/2008 7:56:31 AM , Rating: 3
You mean it can't read my thoughts and just copy and paste what I'm looking at? Well damn, I won't use it if it can't do that.


Not quite
By aGreenAgent on 12/11/2008 1:58:01 PM , Rating: 3
The article linked to specifically says there's no in-home activation. They send you one that is pre-activated, it just needs a sync with iTunes.




RE: Not quite
By JasonMick (blog) on 12/11/2008 2:27:37 PM , Rating: 2
Newer article:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/11/apple-and-atand...

The one linked was the first to break the story that it might be returning in some form. Since more information has been added.


Do iphone users need copy+paste??
By raghavny80 on 12/11/2008 4:28:52 PM , Rating: 5
Steve Jobs knows best what users want. Users do not know what they want (At least users of apple products).




By SlipDizzy on 12/11/2008 2:34:03 PM , Rating: 3
Before I am stoned by Apple Fanboys, I will state that I actually like the Ipod Touch. I'd just like to say that I think these devices are more toys/entertainment then actual "smart-phones." So with that said, its no wonder that you need 3rd party support for such a basic smart-phone function.

I think Apple is more worried about what games can support an accelerometer....




All This Jesus Phone News?
By pauldovi on 12/12/2008 9:20:11 AM , Rating: 3
The last Dailytech article I saw on the Storm was back in October! We went through a highly publicized smartphone launch with nothing from Dailytech and now we get daily updates on the Jesus phone? Give me a break!




Not to nitpick...
By Gastrian on 12/11/2008 2:34:32 PM , Rating: 2
....but shouldn't

quote:
Application-less copy and paste finally hits the iPhone via Pastebud, a Safari javascript hack page. And there's nothing Apple can do about it -- well, except to update Safari to block the service. (Source: Pastebud)Apple is make the iPhone easier to activate and a third party is trying to make up for another important shortcoming of the phone

Are you a coach potato looking to score America's best selling phone? Apple and AT&T now have you covered.


Read as either;
Apple is to make the iPhone easier
or
Apple is making the iPhone easier

also its couch potato not coach potato.




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