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A glacial region in Norway  (Source: NRK)
Scandinavian nation reverses trend, mirrors results in Alaska, elsewhere.

After years of decline, glaciers in Norway are again growing, reports the Norwegian Water Resources and Energy Directorate (NVE). The actual magnitude of the growth, which appears to have begun over the last two years, has not yet been quantified, says NVE Senior Engineer Hallgeir Elvehøy.

The flow rate of many glaciers has also declined. Glacier flow ultimately acts to reduce accumulation, as the ice moves to lower, warmer elevations.

The original trend had been fairly rapid decline since the year 2000.  

The developments were originally reported by the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation (NRK).

DailyTech has previously reported on the growth in Alaskan glaciers, reversing a 250-year trend of loss. Some glaciers in Canada, California, and New Zealand are also growing, as the result of both colder temperatures and increased snowfall.

Ed Josberger, a glaciologist with the U.S. Geological Survey, says the growth is "a bit of an anomaly", but not to be unexpected.

Despite the recent growth, most glaciers in the nation are still smaller than they were in 1982. However, Elvehøy says that the glaciers were even smaller during the 'Medieval Warm Period' of the Viking Era, prior to around the year 1350.

Not all Norwegian glaciers appear to be affected, most notably those in the Jotenheimen region of Southern Norway.



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RE: Corporate propaganda
By foolsgambit11 on 11/29/2008 8:18:11 PM , Rating: 2
News flash, plants also need water. Frequently, water within certain times of the year to germinate and grow before the end of their growing season (either too hot or too cold, or too wet or too dry, depending on the crop and location). I'm sure that's what the OP was referring to.

He was also making an argument that recently, the climate has been less predictable than it used to be. Whether you believe that or not is up to your judgment. But instead of blurting out the talking points given to you by the anti-global warming newsletter ("plants love CO2!"), you should learn to apply them appropriately as counter-arguments to global warming supporters arguments. For instance, you should have argued something about the lack of consistent, accurate data with which to establish trends over long enough periods of time, or the problem being with the climatologists models, and not with the consistency of the weather. After all, humans have never been good at predicting the weather more than a few days out. Ever. Not only that, but global rain patterns frequently change. The Sahara Desert got more rain 5000 years ago than it does today - it was something like the Northern Mediterranean climate is today.

This isn't to say that dramatic cooling wouldn't be dangerous to global food production, as you argued. But, since the anti-global warming argument is that this is a natural cycle of cooling, and it will keep getting cooler, then there's nothing we can do. And since we can't do anything about it, it's not really worth being concerned about. We just have to accept that we won't be able to produce enough food for 6 billion people, billions will starve, and global anarchy will reign. But there's nothing that can be done, really - I mean, are you willing to change your lifestyle because the human race is in danger? I'm not. Are you willing to spend the money it would take to develop hearty, cold-resistant crop varieties? Not my tax dollars!

Sorry, I think I'm being more confrontational than I really feel on this issue. Fact is, I don't know what's going on with the climate - but I've got a boat in case it's a Waterworld-style scenario.


RE: Corporate propaganda
By sigilscience on 11/30/2008 5:09:32 PM , Rating: 2
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since we can't do anything about it, it's not really worth being concerned about. We just have to accept that we won't be able to produce enough food for 6 billion people, billions will starve, and global anarchy will reign
What? There's PLENTY of things we can do to adapt to colder weather.

The problem is that anytime the subject of adaption to climate change comes up, the Alarmists freak out and shut down the debate. If we can adapt to colder weather, we can adapt to warmer even easier. And that would kill their entire anti-industrialization argument.


RE: Corporate propaganda
By Ringold on 11/30/2008 5:52:07 PM , Rating: 4
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But there's nothing that can be done, really - I mean, are you willing to change your lifestyle because the human race is in danger?


The real question is "Will European's drop their zealotry with regards to GM crops?" or "Will trade protectionism in agricultural trade continue to distort global food markets, and will the EU and US be willing to drop trade barriers?"

Those are the two primary issues that hold back further increases in global food production, distribution, etc.

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Are you willing to spend the money it would take to develop hearty, cold-resistant crop varieties? Not my tax dollars!


Of course not. Because several household name ag companies do it for us all for free, and have been doing so for years! Monsanto comes to mind first, but there are many smaller firms. Capitalism. Google it.

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Sorry, I think I'm being more confrontational than I really feel on this issue.


No, alarmist. On top of everything else, Brazil has huge areas of land that can be made arable. American farmers in some cases have been thriving in Brazil. The only thing that can cause starvation is government.


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