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Netflix consumers will have one month before the rental service stops renting HD DVDs

Online movie rental company Netflix sent an e-mail to its subscribers informing them they would no longer be able to rent HD DVDs.

"Effective December 15, 2008, we will no longer carry HD DVDs," a message to subscribers said.  "At that time, we will automatically replace any HD DVD titles in your queue with standard DVDs when available.  You don't have to do anything."

"Last February, we announced that since most of the major movie studios had decided to release their high-definition movies exclusively in Blu-ray, we were going exclusively Blu-ray as well and would be phasing out our HD DVDs."

Since Sony-backed Blu-ray won the format war and HD DVDs are no longer being released by movie studios, this decision isn't shocking.  Netflix will stop selling used DVDs by the end of the month, and it's unsure what will happen to the company's HD DVD catalog -- Netflix never sold high-def content.

The company will now shift support back to DVDs, Blu-ray and streaming services, with a strong emphasis on Blu-ray and streaming services.  The company recently announced several partnerships in which consumers will be able to stream TV episodes and movies directly into the living room using a set-top box or certain Blu-ray players.

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RE: 360
By mmntech on 11/14/2008 3:31:16 PM , Rating: 5
Bandwidth caps might go (but I doubt it) but HD streaming won't be practical unless we can hit sustained 20mbps download speeds without it costing an arm and a leg. Current speeds are too slow for proper on-demand HD content. North American internet infrastructure needs some huge upgrades.

RE: 360
By Screwballl on 11/14/2008 3:57:39 PM , Rating: 1
Right but modern 480p standard definition TV is very easily streamed, can just upconvert them...
Why not start with what works than jumping straight to HD streaming...

RE: 360
By Gzus666 on 11/14/2008 3:59:48 PM , Rating: 3
And enjoy compressed sound? Nothing sounds better than low sample rate compressed sound. Push that through your $100 home theater in a box and talk about a sweet experience. What a joke.

RE: 360
By gramboh on 11/14/2008 6:30:39 PM , Rating: 5
I'm convinced everyone who makes claims like this (480p upconversion, HD streaming) has never seen a Blu-ray/HD-DVD title on a decent setup (say $1.5k 46-52inch TV, $500 receiver, $700 speakers).

Crappy compressed streaming is nowhere near close enough. You need about 12-14mbit to stream decent looking 1080p h264 (say video encoded at 12mbit, compressed from Blu-ray source and DTS 1.5mbit sound compressed from lossless source). Uncompressed is probably ~20-25 for video and ~6 for sound. Good luck getting those sustained rates in the next few years.

RE: 360
By Gzus666 on 11/14/2008 7:24:35 PM , Rating: 1
$700 speakers? My 2 floor standers alone were double that, ha. But seriously, agree 100%.

RE: 360
By NubWobble on 11/15/2008 3:40:55 AM , Rating: 2
Now let us imagine all the things you could do with your family with all that money, the places you could go to and the things you could see. I don't envy people who brag about seeing the things I experience on holiday on TV only.

RE: 360
By therealnickdanger on 11/15/2008 10:09:12 AM , Rating: 3
Haha, why not do both? Don't be such a downer, seriously.

RE: 360
By NubWobble on 11/17/2008 1:24:49 AM , Rating: 2
I refused to spend that kind of money on CD and DVD when it was first launched and I refuse to jump on the BluRay bandwagon. If being realistic is being a downer maybe you should go tell those people who have lost their houses, jobs, lives because of the current economic disaster. "Don't be a downer, buy a PS3."

I am in no way suffering from the Wallstreet induced malaise and would love to buy a BluRay rewriter but I won't. I refuse to support Sony, nothing they have made in the past years has been worth buying. Anyway having a 683" TV and an accompanying BluFail device don't add epeen, not in the least because I care more about content than visuals.

RE: 360
By Gzus666 on 11/15/2008 12:10:21 PM , Rating: 2
If only I didn't trade a TV that I was no longer using for those speakers, then maybe that could hold water. That is of course assuming that the trade didn't happen with my father who wanted a flat screen for his other living room and had a set of speakers he replaced with a different set for his music server. I'm merely giving the retail price of the speakers, as quality speakers are not cheap.He listens to headphones most of the time anyway, you know how audiophiles are.

Also, I have no kids, no wife and my father does well enough for himself to get what he wants anyway. Plus he really doesn't like going places, vacations tend to be more work than vacation anyway. Brother is in college, I think he will do just fine on his own and my mother is still with my father, so no problems there.

You experience Iron Man, Xmen, Matrix, Talladega Nights, The Thing and any one of these in real life on holiday? You live quite the fu*ked up life my friend.

RE: 360
By jonmcc33 on 11/18/2008 7:46:47 AM , Rating: 2
Aw, you live with daddy! That's so cute!

RE: 360
By Gzus666 on 11/18/2008 9:14:30 AM , Rating: 2
I trade something so I somehow live with my pop? I live close to my parents, about 8 miles. You are truly the master of deduction.

RE: 360
By Jimbo1234 on 11/15/2008 12:15:19 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, $700 in speakers? yeah LOL... my center channel was $1500.

RE: 360
By therealnickdanger on 11/15/2008 2:20:18 PM , Rating: 5
$1,500 center channel?

yeah LOL... my cables alone were $150,000.

(Mine actually weren't, I was just making a point. The only reason not to show off is that someone always has something better. ;-) )

RE: 360
By Gzus666 on 11/16/2008 5:20:13 PM , Rating: 1

Pretty easy to boost the cost on nice speakers. $2500 center right there. Granted the Signature series Paradigms are outstanding speakers which even outdo some of the super exotic stuff for double the price or more, still some serious cash.

Ogle the greatness that is Audiogon. 100 grand plus is not unheard of for a set of floor standers. Extreme audio gets quite nuts. Even better, find one of the $500,000 record players, those are works of art and about the best sound you can get.

RE: 360
By foolsgambit11 on 11/16/2008 3:16:42 PM , Rating: 1
From a previous poster in this thread:
streaming won't be practical unless we can hit sustained 20mbps download speeds without it costing an arm and a leg.

I'm sorry, but if you've spent that much on your home theater setup, maybe you should splurge for better internet. What? Can't get better internet where you are? Maybe you should move.

I mean, obviously, you've got your priorities, and at the top of the list is a quality viewing experience. Why not structure your entire life around that?

RE: 360
By Gzus666 on 11/16/2008 5:24:00 PM , Rating: 2
The problem is sustaining that kind of speed to stream an entire video every time you wish. Good luck finding that speed from any residential ISP. On top of that, they will get rather annoyed when you bring their network to it's knees. Imagine if thousands of people started doing that in each of the major hubs, it would pretty much stop the network in that area.

RE: 360
By Shadowself on 11/17/2008 11:02:44 AM , Rating: 2
Uncompressed HD is approximately 1.5 Gbps.
Uncompressed 7.1 sound is approximately 24 Mbps.

RE: 360
By Clauzii on 11/14/2008 9:55:42 PM , Rating: 2
We should all live in Sweden.

25-50 megabit (You'll get min. 25 but up to 50) is like $60,-/month. Upload is 7-10 mbit! Even here in Denmark, a line like that is ~$100,-. And that is with only 1 mbit upload!

Equalize now!

RE: 360
By Oregonian2 on 11/16/2008 11:50:07 PM , Rating: 2
Bandwidth caps might go (but I doubt it) but HD streaming won't be practical unless we can hit sustained 20mbps download speeds without it costing an arm and a leg.

Haven't been able to test the "sustained" part, but my 20/5 FiOS works pretty darn nicely, and it's $52/month, which isn't even a whole finger, let alone an arm or leg. Some people pay that for DSL (I used to not that long ago).

RE: 360
By timmiser on 11/18/2008 12:56:16 AM , Rating: 2
Comcast just called me yesterday to inform me that I exceeded their 250 GB per month cap and if I didn't reduce my data downloads below that threshold by next month, they would suspend my account for 12 months.

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