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The iPhone is now America's best selling phone, becoming the first smart phone to top the list. It knocked off Motorola's Razr, which held the top spot for three straight years (12 quarters).  (Source: MSNBC)
The trendy iPhone continues to surpass sales expectations despite its share of problems

Love it or hate it, it’s hard to deny that Apple is the king of brand image.  As the days of the classic iPod wane, the iPhone is quickly assuming its place atop the Apple product line as the king of trendy.

Since its inception, the device has met with mostly rave reviews.  While it frustratingly lacks many seemingly easy-to-implement features, the overall package was and still is, to a large extent, arguably ahead of its competitors in several key categories including the user interface.  The perks led TIME magazine to name it the invention of the year for 2007.

Apple CEO Steve Jobs, who is listed on the iPhone patent as one of the device's inventors, has been thrilled with sales.  He and his company were pleased that the reception for the latest iteration of the device, the iPhone 3G, remained warm despite a number of various problems, including reception issues.

Now the Mr. Jobs has something else to gloat about -- his device has become the best selling phone in America

Days ago, the iPhone passed an important metric, knocking Blackberry off as the top smart phone in terms of customer satisfaction among business users.  Now the phone as achieved an even loftier accolade, dethroning Motorola's Razr as the best-selling phone in America for Q3 2008.

The new data, coming from NPD (the leading wireless research firm), represents the first time in 3 years that the best-selling Razr failed to top the list.

The NPD reports that overall, cell phone sales are down 15 percent.  Despite this and a sagging economy, the iPhone was able to seize the lead.  This also comes despite the fact that the overall iPhone price with the service plan factored in was raised with the release of the iPhone 3G.

Obviously, love it or hate it, the chic iPhone is king of the smartphone jungle for the time being.  RIM, Google and others may try to knock it off, but in the end it is Apple that did what these competitors could not -- make the first smartphone to become the best selling cell phone in America.

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By omnicronx on 11/10/2008 3:44:18 PM , Rating: 5
Apple only has 1 phone.. Their Marketshare is still only 2.3% worldwide for sales during Q3.. I understand this is big news that the iPhone is now the number one seller, but you should have also pointed out that these numbers are skewed by the fact that every other manufacturer has more than one phone for sale.. Nokia is still dominating the market with 40% marketshare, which includes a bunch of smartphones. Also One would have to imagine that RIM would does not follow closely behind Apple when you add up all their sales.

In fact every single major player in the phone industry has at least 3 times the marketshare that Apple has. This news is just as important as the 'Apple is now second in laptop sales', even though their marketshare is still tiny compared to PC.

RE: but..
By xti on 11/10/2008 3:57:25 PM , Rating: 2
yeah..but can the nokia make lightsaber sounds when you wave it around??

RE: but..
By omnicronx on 11/10/2008 4:00:48 PM , Rating: 5
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By StevoLincolnite on 11/10/2008 4:40:54 PM , Rating: 3
My old Nokia 3220 could make light saber sounds also, plus you could also do "Wave Messaging" - Where you move the phone in the air to display a message in the air.

RE: but..
By paulovix on 11/10/08, Rating: -1
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By omnicronx on 11/10/2008 4:46:51 PM , Rating: 5
You're missing the point.
Obviously you are missing my point, I think its great that the iPhone has sold this well, it has forced other cell phone companies into action, and we will have better phones because of this.

But Mick never mentioned what you are saying in the article, he is going off on a rant of how the iphone is the smartphone king, when in reality, both Nokia, RIM, and all WinMo phones together, all have a higher marketshare than Apples, they just have more than one phone.

I think the iPhones success is great, but this article makes it out as though they are dominating world sales, which in reality they are not, they are the best selling phone, not brand.

RE: but..
By othercents on 11/10/2008 5:49:07 PM , Rating: 1
No they are not dominating all phones sold, but hell how can you compete with all those 80+ year old people who purchased phones 5 years ago and still use them today? BTW. they are all Nokia.

However the number of phones sold and them being able to be on the top of the market with only ATT selling the phone is surprising. I saw many people say that the iPhone wouldn't sell that well because no one wanted to use ATT. I guess more than a few people didn't care if it was ATT and only wanted the phone.


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By Targon on 11/11/2008 8:51:02 AM , Rating: 3
When you compare sales to sales, you CAN compare. The sales figures do not take the existing phones into account.

Motorolla and LG really are showing up out there a LOT these days, Nokia is also there but isn't nearly as dominant as they once were.

Now, there is always the "cool" factor, but if you look at the competition, it won't be long before there is a product that will beat the iPhone. It is even possible that an Android based phone will really make a big splash, or even a Palm phone once NOVA comes out.

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By Quiescent on 11/12/2008 3:38:50 AM , Rating: 3
Pffft. Screw that, I'm getting a G1. I have been waiting for this badboy! And no, not people 80+ years old are buying Nokia phones anyways. They usually just get the freebies. While young, fresh, and hippidy hoppidy people, who are smart, are getting phones that may not be popular but functionality is what they're looking for, and they know that by going with Nokia, they don't have to worry whether Steve Jobs thinks the software they want isn't what they really want.

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By tdawg on 11/10/2008 5:49:23 PM , Rating: 2
Isn't the argument that the iPhone is the #1 selling smartphone, not that Apple is the #1 smartphone supplier? The iPhone can very well be the #1 selling smartphone, but RIM may have sold more total smartphones, none of which individually sold better than the iPhone.

The title alone clarifies that we are discussing the sales of an individual phone, not a companies entire line of phones.

RE: but..
By michael2k on 11/10/2008 6:09:12 PM , Rating: 1
Except they are!

Worldwide the iPhone outsells all RIM, WinMo, Palm, and HTC smartphones:

1: Nokia at 38%
2: Apple at 17%
3: RIM at 15%
4: Motorola and HTC with a little less than 6% each

I've read also this means is that Apple has moved past WinMo, as well!

RE: but..
By omnicronx on 11/10/2008 11:44:43 PM , Rating: 2
Those are smartphone sales, we all know you are an Apple fan michael, no need to preach...

Apple took 2.3 per cent of the market during Q3 2008 - not bad for a company that wasn't even a player in this arena 18 months ago. That put it in sixth place, behind LG (7.6 per cent), Motorola (8.4 per cent), Sony Ericsson (8.5 per cent), Samsung (17.1 per cent) and Nokia (38.9 per cent).

RE: but..
By michael2k on 11/10/2008 6:04:29 PM , Rating: 2
Like to like:
Nokia has slightly less than 40% marketshare in the last quarter and Applie has slightly more than 17% marketshare when you look only at smartphones:

In the same article, RIM only has 15.2%

That is only counting smartphones since Apple doesn't make "normal" phones.

And... Apple marketshare is no longer tiny compared to PC. In the US at least they are just about 10%, 3rd behind Dell and HP. Worldwide it may take then a couple more years before this is also true, but there is no reason to expect them not to.

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By retrospooty on 11/11/2008 8:38:15 AM , Rating: 2
"Apple marketshare is no longer tiny compared to PC. In the US at least they are just about 10%, 3rd behind Dell and HP. Worldwide it may take then a couple more years before this is also true, but there is no reason to expect them not to. "

Actually all the much hyped growth in the past 2 years has bought them from 5% to about 8%.

RE: but..
By michael2k on 11/11/2008 11:50:29 AM , Rating: 2
Um, Gartner says 9.5%:

IDC says 9.1%, though I can't find a publication on their site, both are higher than 8% you refer to but don't cite, and significantly closer to 10% than you might like :)

RE: but..
By retrospooty on 11/11/2008 4:26:37 PM , Rating: 2
Based on what? Percentage of computers used, or percentage of computers sold in that quarter? There is a difference.

Either way, point taken. Apple is slowly increasing marketshare... Which is a good thing for both Apple and PC users.

RE: but..
By michael2k on 11/12/2008 12:22:09 PM , Rating: 2
Percentage of computers sold in that quarter. I would be seriously surprised if Apple could top 10% without lowering prices however.

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