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  (Source: kotaku.com)

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Bioware and LucasArts team up to release a new Star Wars MMO

LucasArts and BioWare officially announced the development of a new massively multiplayer online pc game called Star Wars: The Old Republic. The game will be story-driven and set during the timeframe of past hit Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. Star Wars: The Old Republic, is being developed and published by BioWare and LucasArts.

Star Wars: The Old Republic, is set thousands of years before Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker, when war between the Old Republic and the Sith Empire raged. Players can choose to play as Jedi, Sith, or a variety of other classic Star Wars roles. Similar to other MMOs, players will be able to define their personal story and decide whether to follow the light or dark side of the Force. Players will be able to choose to team up with friends to battle enemies and overcome huge challenges as a group.

LucasArts president Darrell Rodriguez’s discussed how their goal was to return to the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic franchise stating, “Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic is the most critically acclaimed Star Wars game in LucasArts history and a preeminent example of our company’s interactive storytelling heritage, For a long time, we’ve long wanted to return to the franchise in a grand way, and we felt that the best setting for it was an online world that would allow millions of people to participate in the experience together. We knew that the developer capable of working with us to deliver an engrossing story with a fully-realized online world was BioWare."

The game will explore a time frame 300 years after the events of Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic.  This area of Star Wars chronology has been relatively unexplored when compared to the Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker era.

According to Dr. Ray Muzyka, Co-Founder and General Manager/CEO of BioWare, storytelling will help to differentiate this MMO from the rest.  He states, "In Star Wars: The Old Republic, we’re fusing BioWare’s heritage of critically-acclaimed storytelling with the amazing pedigree of Lucasfilm and LucasArts”

Similar to Muzyka, Dr. Greg Zeschuk, Co-Founder and Vice President Development Operations of BioWare discussed how this MMO will emphasize innovative story and character development, saying, “BioWare has been able to add to the Star Wars history in developing the game’s story and has created an overarching narrative that players can enjoy, regardless of their play style. Our goal is to offer players an emotionally rewarding experience that combines the traditional elements of MMO gameplay with innovations in story and character development."

Additional details for Star Wars: The Old Republic such as features, gameplay and release date will be announced at a later time.



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RE: not sure...
By FITCamaro on 10/22/2008 12:16:14 PM , Rating: 0
Yes because WoW is the epitome of an engaging MMO. Final Fantasy XI blew it away. It was less popular because it was actually challenging. WoW follows the typical mentality. Give it to me and give it to me now. Hopefully BioWare will completely ignore the fact that WoW even exists when finishing this game. We don't need another WoW.


RE: not sure...
By Reclaimer77 on 10/22/2008 1:46:55 PM , Rating: 1
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Yes because WoW is the epitome of an engaging MMO. Final Fantasy XI blew it away.


Fit stick to bashing libs on oil and foreign policy. Cause this statement is purely FUD buddy. I have played WOW for 3 years and at no point was anything " given to me now ". The amount of time spent obtaining even average gear and raiding levels is, in fact, quite unhealthy to be perfectly honest.

Final Fantasy XI ?? You are joking right.


RE: not sure...
By FITCamaro on 10/22/2008 2:20:35 PM , Rating: 2
The fact that you ran the same instances over and over and over does not make it a good game. WoW is a game about gear collection and beating a raid boss. There's no real story that people care about. In Final Fantasy XI, I felt like I was playing an epic story. Which is far more important to me.

You don't have to agree with me. You care about one thing. I care about others. I was bored to tears with WoW in 3 months. I played FFXI for 3 years. I would have kept playing but time didn't permit. Although based on what a friend told me about how they've changed the leveling system (it will let you wear your high level armor and scale its stats to the level of your party automatically so high level players can level with lower level ones without having to change gear), I might hop back into it. At least until this game comes out.


RE: not sure...
By The0ne on 10/22/2008 3:16:21 PM , Rating: 2
Getting testy without valid reasons. I only gave my opinions on the matter base on both companies reputation and track record for PC games. I didn't vouch for WoW or any other games. I did vouch for the companies that does good work on games however. And this you don't agree? Why don't you just chime in on your opinion instead of bashing others? Do you know something that I don't that's factual?

WoW does have a story it's just lost in the countless quests and whatnot that goes on within the game. I'm an avid fan of the Warcraft story, since the first release, but I just don't have the time to pick up on the entire story from it. The novels can compensate a bit for this. Have you followed the story to make your statements?

And to end this, I play FFXI. It's one of two that I still play. The other is Heroes of Might and magic III, a turn base game. The story in FFXI is also amazing but the world, quests, events and such are not as large as WoW. Thus the player tends to stick to the story more often. Having said that, however, many US players have little clue to the story of FFXI. This is because of the same mentality they use for most games they play. The goal it seems is to get the highest level and best equipments in the shortest time as they can. This produces idiot players that don't really know how to play the game or the character.

My 75's on FFXI if you like to know. And this is from 3 years of playing as I've finding less and less time to devote to it.

Taru: rdm, whm, cor, brd, war, nin, smn
Hume: war, nin, mnk, pld
Elvaan: war, nin, brd, rdm

Yes, I love war and nin but my main is whm. I just play the other jobs because many people suck at them and I wanted to prove them to be real idiots. Sadly, I'm being harsh because I have collected data myself to at least prove what I'm talking about when it comes to FFXI.

So there, can we end this flame thing and just post our for/against opinions on this Star Wars game.


RE: not sure...
By Reclaimer77 on 10/22/2008 6:02:02 PM , Rating: 1
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The goal it seems is to get the highest level and best equipments in the shortest time as they can.


Thats the goal of EVERY MMO. FFXI fanboi's however for some reason look down on this. Perfering instead to be browbeated by endless quests, poor " job " system, time sinks for doing the most meanial tasks, and an Xp system that doesn't actually reward your EXPERIENCES.


RE: not sure...
By FITCamaro on 10/22/2008 10:33:11 PM , Rating: 2
How is having too much to do a bad thing in a game?

And how is the job system bad? You don't have to have multiple characters to do everything (except for extra inventory space). Get tired of being a healer? You can be anything else. Just have to level it. Was one of the best parts of the game.


RE: not sure...
By Reclaimer77 on 10/23/2008 12:25:47 AM , Rating: 1
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How is having too much to do a bad thing in a game?


If it stops you from actually ENJOYING content, then its a bad thing. If doing menial tasks IS the content... then your game has problems.

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And how is the job system bad? You don't have to have multiple characters to do everything (except for extra inventory space). Get tired of being a healer? You can be anything else. Just have to level it. Was one of the best parts of the game.


It ruins any semblence of a persistent,balanced game world when everyone will just easily job into the current " flavor of the month " overpowered template.

Star Wars Galaxies had the same stupid system. Oh new patch, Rifleman got buffed *poof* half the game goes Rifleman. TK , because of a huge developer oversite, can stack so much defense they CANNOT be hit *POOF* EVERYONE goes TK. Ect ect.

Gay.


RE: not sure...
By The0ne on 10/23/2008 1:18:17 AM , Rating: 2
While I agree with you on the having too much content, I think the job system in FFXI is fine. Granted it's not 100% perfect but it's nowhere near as bad as WoW for example. The latest WoW patch granting Pro War and Ret Plds to survive and do massive amounts of damage? Hmm...wack.

If WoW didn't have that "too much content" I wouldn't get so bore of it so quick trying to enjoy the storyline. So many damn errand quests that adds no significance to the storyline. Yea, I'll kill more pigs to help with the warrior training. FFXI isn't an exception but it's doesn't have that many to be of a nuisance to me.

Changing jobs in FFXI is not dependent on "the flavor of the month" idea. It doesn't work like that at all. Some jobs are better at certain tasks but it's not certainly overpower in any way. There aren't many instances with updates to the game I can think of that "poof" any job to overshadow the others. Maybe you're talking about a different game? :o


RE: not sure...
By FITCamaro on 10/23/2008 6:06:53 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah the classes in FFXI were some of the most balanced ones I'd ever seen. Yes certain combinations were more popular. But you always saw people with interesting combinations just to show it could be done. My friend had a Taru Taru Dark Knight/Black Mage that was awesome.

And unless you had the new job leveled, its not like you could just switch to it anyway. You would have to level it up first.


RE: not sure...
By Reclaimer77 on 10/23/2008 5:39:39 PM , Rating: 2
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Granted it's not 100% perfect but it's nowhere near as bad as WoW for example. The latest WoW patch granting Pro War and Ret Plds to survive and do massive amounts of damage? Hmm...wack.


Thats caused by a bug/gear stat change oversite in the new patch, which was a MASSIVE one adding tons of code and content and complete gear reitemization for many classes. You can hardly say this is typical of the game. And fyi, next Tuesday the patch will fix the issue. So OMG, we had to put up with overpowered Ret Paladins for ONE WEEK. Which for non PVP server players, isn't really an issue at all.

Protection Warrior has SUCKED for the better part of 3 years. Not sure how you put them on the list with Ret Paladin. Warriors are simply fixed, not overpowered.

Wow, on the whole, is a very balanced game. 90% of all issues are community whiners and QQ'ers and everyone knows it.

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If WoW didn't have that "too much content" I wouldn't get so bore of it so quick trying to enjoy the storyline.


Why are you trying to enjoy the storyline ? The best parts of the storyline involve end game raiding. Get to 70, get decent gear, and get in a raiding guild. Whats the problem again ? And if you don't like raiding well uhhh.. not sure why your playing the game to be honest.


RE: not sure...
By The0ne on 10/23/2008 12:46:12 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not quite sure, well actually I'm very sure, you have no clue what you just said otherwise you wouldn't be saying it about FFXI or any other MMO that is different from WoW.

There are always players in MMO that want to get to the endgame as fast as possible. FFXI is NO exception to this rule. Where did you come off stating FFXI fanboi looks down on this? All I said was that I prefer storylines rather than skipping everything to get to the end. I wouldn't have 3 characters if I didn't.

You last sentence is just utter stupidity that doesn't even deserve talking about.


RE: not sure...
By The0ne on 10/23/2008 1:56:12 AM , Rating: 2
Most of you, if not all, seem to think I favor FFXI over any other MMOs. I've played Connan, LOTR, WoW and countless others. My preference for FFXI is because of the game mechanics and the storyline. The same goes for WoW too but I just don't have the time to go through all the quests.

What started off as an opinion on the Star War game turned into a fanboy argument of one game to another. This isn't me and although I've talked about FFXI quite often in this post, it's mainly to point out flaws others comments...purely from lacking of understanding or in-experience of a game they haven't really taken the time to enjoy. I would definitely not be making comments about games I haven't play base off of what I "heard" or read in reviews. People have different tast for different types of MMO. We should all be grateful there's still competition coming out in the genre.

Truth is even though I don't think BioWare and Lucas can pull this off successfully I will eventually try it. I'm also a star wars fan and I enjoy the storyline a lot. I'm a avid reader. But most certainly, some of you here are so single minded and one-sided it's impossible to have a meaningful discussion at all. But hey, that's what forums are for I guess :)


RE: not sure...
By FITCamaro on 10/23/2008 6:12:22 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah I've played many MMOs released since 2002. LoTRO wasn't bad just me and my friends lost interest. I left Conan not too long ago for the same reason but also a good game (cmon...fatalities rule). SWG and WoW I left because they weren't fun. FFXI I left due to a lack of time. Guild Wars again left because of loss of interest. EVE:Online was awesome but I stupidly left to go play SWG and didn't want to start over (since there's no way to catch up in that game).


RE: not sure...
By Reclaimer77 on 10/23/2008 8:51:01 PM , Rating: 2
Eve online is just horrible. Horrible.

Its fun until you realize skill training is a static rate. Meaning , as you stated, its impossible to compete with people who have been playing longer.

Aside from that, its an MMO with one server. Which is pretty telling of how popular the game is. When I played the trial, the server was performing very poorly as well. Some zones were lagtastic, others would disconnect you.

Autofire lockon weapons and double click only ship controls made for a VERY dull and detached piloting experience IMO.


RE: not sure...
By Reclaimer77 on 10/22/2008 5:57:51 PM , Rating: 2
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WoW is a game about gear collection and beating a raid boss. There's no real story that people care about.


I'm not big into the WoW storyline, but the people I know who played Warcraft 1-3 in a big way TOTALLY care about the story. Its an online game and must be treated as such. The Story is important, but in FFXI the game moves painfully slow. You spend days of your life talking to every NPC on the PLANET to get an answer to a question. FF makes the game move slower because, frankly, they don't have the game content to justify a faster pace. I heard FFXI doesn't even give you Xp for doing missions and quests. Apparently the point of the game is beating on the same crabs for hours rather than actually grouping up, having fun, and doing new EXPERIENCES. Isn't that what " XP " should be ?

Plus I don't see how you got off making those remarks about Blizzard when FF is run by SE !! Horrible customer service, bad/outdated servers, and bad coding. Customer service reps don't work on the weekends.. wtf. Good lord, they took SIX MONTHS to get Chocobo raising coded. Wth ? People were asking for RACING for 4 years.

If you want " epic " stories play Baulders gate or Diablo. I'm not paying $15 a month for a story, I'm paying to have fun and to advance my character. FFXI is the BIGGEST time sink in the MMO world. That might make you feel more involved in the epic story, but in reality they are just keeping you too busy for you to realize you're wasting your time when you COULD be having fun.


RE: not sure...
By The0ne on 10/23/2008 1:07:39 AM , Rating: 2
FFXI is a game base off of FF games using some of the familiar setups. Things are not given to the player so easily. Yes, you do have to actually do some problem solving to get quests and missions done. What's changed is the expectation of many players that just want things given to them easily. This is a game that requires cooperation and until the recent changes you really couldn't solo past level 10. That's how the game is, it isn't like WoW. Making a comparison is meaningless. What's important is whether or not you like/dislike the system being implemented. I wouldn't going about posting more comments from what you've "heard" until you give it a try. Most players don't even last to level 20 with the FFXI system. Teamwork apparently isn't their cup of tea.

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Apparently the point of the game is beating on the same crabs for hours rather than actually grouping up, having fun, and doing new EXPERIENCES. Isn't that what " XP " should be ?


And your point being? It seems you lack the understanding or experience of FFXI or rather MMOs in general to be making such statements.

If you read my comments, I said companies that make good games, not companies that have great support services. However, you are correct in that FFXI's services are terrible. And what did I say about Blizzard negatively? I don't think I did at all. You disagree that SE and Blizzard don't make good games?

Fun is subjective. You're fun does not include paying attention to the story whatsoever. Other peoples fun are, and others are to just socialize without doing much. To criticize a game you lack understanding or even care to enjoy for in the first place is ludicrous. MMO's are time sinks, to single out one and claim another isn't is just too funny.


RE: not sure...
By MrPickins on 10/22/2008 6:06:16 PM , Rating: 2
The level-sync system is awesome. Best change in the game since I started at NA release.

And yes, FFXI has the most epic story of any MMO (if you chose to do each of the expansions' main missions). I'm curious to see if this new KOTR mmo can top it in that respect.


RE: not sure...
By InvertMe on 10/22/2008 3:02:32 PM , Rating: 2
FFXI has everything over WoW imo. Story, playability, reward system and community are all SO much better than WoWs.

Fit has the right of it.


RE: not sure...
By Reclaimer77 on 10/22/2008 5:23:32 PM , Rating: 2
Yes its a much better game, but for some reason they have .00000000001% of WoWs subscriber base. Makes perfect sense...


RE: not sure...
By MrPickins on 10/22/2008 10:08:53 PM , Rating: 2
A big part of it has to do with the steep learning curve. But, I like that. It helps weed out the dumb.


RE: not sure...
By Reclaimer77 on 10/22/2008 11:37:37 PM , Rating: 2
Its not a " learning curve ". Its an avalanche of MENIAL tasks. You FF guys act like you have earned a medal and are better than everyone just because you enjoy wasting your time more than others.


RE: not sure...
By The0ne on 10/23/2008 1:34:45 AM , Rating: 1
You are saying FFXI has "menial tasks?" Are you freaking serious? You are comparing this to WoW I assumed? Do you want to go to allakhazam and make comparisons between the two games and see which one actually has more "menial tasks?" I'm pretty sure I don't have to tell you which one does. In fact, I have a list of the missions and quests I've done in FFXI right in my character log if you want to run over and grab a few hundred off of WoW.

FFXI does require a learning curve, much like FF games have always been. You're not given things just like that. You have to actually do some work if you're working on missions and quests. If you want it easy most are already posted on websites. So complaining about them being timesink is useless. Take the first FF game for example. It took a while for a lot of people to figure out where Life and Nuke were. If you don't like the game mechanics you probably don't like many of the older FF games.

And the game does weed out most of the impatient, stupid and arrogant players. If you can't work with others you're not going to get far, if you don't take time to actually learn how to play the jobs you're pretty much screwed and if you are bitchy and complain that you can't level fast enough because the game is too "slow pace" then you're most likely not going to get an invite get anything done.

Here's what you do get if everyone knows what their suppose to be doing and are decent to each other. You don't end up "wasting" time, like what you've stated, and actually level up...quickly. The XP doesn't change for the normal ranges. You'll get 150-200xp and this is quite a lot at the lower levels. But then again, this just doesn't apply to FFXI does it. Not it doesn't, it's just that the FFXI gameplay requires a lot more from a player than your normal MMO.


RE: not sure...
By Reclaimer77 on 10/23/2008 5:28:28 PM , Rating: 2
Typical elitist FF player tone here. Especially this.

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it's just that the FFXI gameplay requires a lot more from a player than your normal MMO.


You guys keep saying that, but nobody has explained what, exactly, does FFXI require of you that " normal " MMO players can't hack ?

Unless you mean more of your real life time, then I'll happily agree.


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