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Intel's Shane Wall rails ARM as a blight on smartphones

Intel has never been shy about slamming its main competitors in the various markets that it has a presence. Intel talks itself up as it talks down rival AMD in the computer CPU environment and rival mobile CPU maker ARM gets much the same treatment.

Intel is picking on what it calls the slow iPhone, but is fast to point out that the slowness isn’t Apple's fault. This caveat is no doubt to placate Apple and its iPhone business, which Intel undoubtedly covets. According to Intel's Shane Wall, the problem with the iPhone is its processor which is based on ARM technology.

Wall said, "Any sort of application that requires any horse power at all and the iPhone struggles." Wall maintains that Apple did a good job tackling the mobile Internet and achieved massive buzz for its iPhone thanks to Jobs' deity-like ability to sell products.

The iPhone wasn't alone in being panned by Wall who believes that the ARM processor is blight on smartphones in general. Wall said, "The smartphone of today is not very smart. The problem they have today is they use ARM."

Wall continued to rail on ARM claiming that if you want to run the "full" internet, you are going to need to run an Intel-architecture processor. Ironically, Intel used to make an entire line of ARM-based processors that it sold to Marvell in 2006.

The writing between the lines here is that a "real" internet experience will only be available on devices running CPU's like the Intel Atom or the Moorestown architecture. Many who have used an iPhone can say the internet experience on the iPhone stands head and shoulders above the competition – that is unless you need to use Flash.

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Intel talks from its behind.
By TotalImmortal on 10/22/2008 12:33:44 PM , Rating: 2
I'm posting this from my Nokia N800 tablet which uses an arm processor. Everything is nice and quick and the battery life is amazing. Try putting an atom processor in a phone and see how long the battery lasts! 30mins? and how hot would it get?


RE: Intel talks from its behind.
By nitrous9200 on 10/22/2008 4:05:35 PM , Rating: 2
When the Atom itself and the chipset get die shrunk (and eventually combined), any device with it would have pretty good performance compared to an ARM. But look at the new ARM Cortex, in the Open Pandora ( handheld and the Archos 5. According to the Pandora's developers, "it will be able to handle things such as Firefox3 or Quake3 with ease." And the Archos 5 is able to run flash enabled web pages much better than the previous 605 model. So who knows who'll come out on top?

RE: Intel talks from its behind.
By ET on 10/22/2008 6:34:21 PM , Rating: 2
Exactly. Add the promised speed improvements of Fennec as a browser, and I figure that ARM CPU's will handle the web quite well.

Still, the CPU is far from being the major obstacle to decent browsing on a mobile phone. I'm much more bothered by the screen size and input on these devices (and the lack of support for Flash and the like, though that's a software issue) than I'm by the speed of page loading.

RE: Intel talks from its behind.
By TomZ on 10/22/2008 8:52:16 PM , Rating: 2
CPU speed is an important factor in browsing. You see this if you have two machines, one slow and one fast, on the same Internet connection. The fast machine will render pages faster and give you a smoother browsing experience with less delay.

RE: Intel talks from its behind.
By BoyBawang on 10/22/2008 11:22:27 PM , Rating: 2
Here are the points to prove that you lack common sense.

1. CPU speed is important in browsing but it's not really a big deal when we also consider battery life! I can start reading web pages immediately even if it's not finished loading. When it's done, the CPU is idle while i'm reading where i spent 90% of my time.

2. x86 compatibility? It's bad to run x86 applications in it's current state in mobile handsets. It should be rewritten with Power efficiency Philosophy in mind. The interface too should undergo a major overhaul to suit small displays and finger operations.

3. ARM can simply ramp up the frequency or implement a die shrink if it's about speed. But they know that mobile computing is all about battery life. What's the use of that speed if you have to recharge every few hours? And why should I need a fast processor in reading texts and sending SMS? Unless I want the CPU to convert the texts into flying 3d with complex shaders.

4. You should know that ARM is not sitting idle. 1ghz Snapdragon will come shortly and Nivdia too will also play some role with ARM. And don't even mention about running "Crisis" in a cellphone or else I call you idiot! Interestingly, Carmack says iPhone is "more powerful than a Nintendo DS and PSP combined"

RE: Intel talks from its behind.
By Chocobollz on 10/24/2008 2:34:02 PM , Rating: 2
And who would use FF3 in a mobile device when you have Opera Mini? ;-) Nothing beats Opera in the mobile space ;-)

And yes, I'm an Opera supporter and I've already tried all the other browser and Opera beats 'em all! ;-)

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