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Will Microsoft's new service pack reinvigorate Vista sales on the eve of Windows 7?

Microsoft is preparing new service packs for Windows Vista and its server counterpart, Windows Server 2008.  The pair of service packs, according to sources, will likely land before the release of Windows 7 which is set to debut in late 2009 or early 2010.  Microsoft confirmed that the project was in the works, with a Vista spokesman saying, "Microsoft is working on a second Windows Vista service pack (Windows Vista SP2) and will share more details in the coming months."

Windows Vista already saw the release of its first service pack in May of this year.  The first release was marred by compatibility difficulties, which forced Microsoft to take it offline for a short time.  Amid slower than-hoped-for adoption growth, Microsoft launched a reinvigorated push to convince people to adopt Windows Vista, highlighted by its "I'm a PC" commercials.

Reports indicate that Microsoft is hard at work preparing the second generation service packs, to help further this new campaign.  It has reportedly delivered a beta of the Vista pack to select hardware and software partners.  This is similar to its current distribution method for early builds of Windows 7.  Microsoft also posted a placeholder article for Vista SP2 on its Knowledge Base site.

Details on the new packs are scarce, but sources with Microsoft say that the biggest deliverable for the Server version will be the integration of Hyper-V bits with it.  Sources also say the reason Microsoft is pushing to release the pack before Windows 7 is to limit confusion about whether to upgrade to Windows 7 or choose the newly more functional Vista.

The service pack for Windows Server 2008 will also reportedly be called SP2, despite it being the first service pack for the OS.  This because Windows Server 2008 was built on Vista with the SP1 service pack included.  Still, the first real service pack for the server OS will be an essential boost as many corporate partners are hesitant to buy an OS without service packs.

Microsoft is remaining tight-lipped about the server SP2 as well, except to acknowledge that its coming soon.  A Microsoft spokesperson stated, "[The] comment [on Vista] serves for Windows Server as well; Microsoft is not commenting further on the timing/release plans for the WS08 SP2 at this time, but will share more details in the coming months."

The Beta 1 releases for the two SP2s are expected within the next couple months.  This will put some pressure on Microsoft's developer team to quickly complete the service pack, as the Windows 7 Beta 1 is slated for mid-December release.

It is rumored that Microsoft may be including some aspects of Windows 7's functionality into Vista via the new service packs.

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RE: Limit confusion?
By Mitch101 on 10/17/2008 12:31:50 PM , Rating: 4
How is that different from any of Apples OS releases?

In Windows we call them service packs and they are Free. In Apple they are called New OS's and charge a premium.

RE: Limit confusion?
By mmntech on 10/17/2008 1:42:24 PM , Rating: 3
Windows service packs are largely cumulative security updates & bug fixes and don't really add anything new. When Apple releases a new version of OS X, it does include a lot of new features. 10.5 for example included Time Machine, Spaces, a redesigned GUI, etc. Sure the new versions may not be radically different but neither is Vista when compared to XP. You can't really compare the two.

Myself, I'm part of the legions of "despicable ingrates" who have abandoned Windows. I really don't have much use for it any more. I use my Mac laptop for everyday stuff and I run Ubuntu on my desktop since I like the Compiz GUI for work. I really only use Windows now for playing my older games or the occasional video transcoding. I'm skipping Vista and I'm taking a wait and see approach with Windows 7. I can't love it or hate it until I see what it is.

RE: Limit confusion?
By JoshuaBuss on 10/17/2008 3:23:07 PM , Rating: 4
I think the addition of the zero-config wireless network utility in XP service pack 2 trumps or at least matches the usefulness of any feature added with Apple's OSX updates over the years, don't you?

RE: Limit confusion?
By aj28 on 10/17/2008 9:55:49 PM , Rating: 3
Going to have to disagree with that one, but even if it were so, that's only one feature. Last I checked Apple released quite a few in each of its OS iterations. And besides, at a list price of $129 (full version), you could snag two of their "service packs" for less than what XP Pro retails for...

RE: Limit confusion?
By omnicronx on 10/17/2008 11:31:31 PM , Rating: 2
Please, nobody in their right mind would buy an full version windows. Just because you can't buy an OEM version of OSX does not mean windows users have to buy retail or the two are comparable. XP OEM can be had for less than 130 dollars, and Windows Vista home premium can be had for the same if you know where to look.

The old argument of OH OSX is cheaper is BS, it is not, not to mention that Office and Windows are usually offered as educational versions for a fraction of the price if you are a student or teacher. I have never paid full price for either Office of Windows.

RE: Limit confusion?
By Silver2k7 on 10/18/2008 4:00:31 AM , Rating: 2
"Please, nobody in their right mind would buy an full version windows."

Why not the OS and the anti-virus program are probably the most important software parts of the computer.

And yes ive got a full version of Vista.

RE: Limit confusion?
By Omega215D on 10/18/2008 5:51:00 AM , Rating: 3
I too have a full version of Vista but I got it cheaper through my university. It's handy having one Vista DVD which allows me to do a clean install on one machine and an upgrade on another without having any activation issues and both do update without a problem as well.

To those saying that you need 2GB to run Vista I can inform you all that it runs fine on 1GB. When I got my MacBook it only shipped with 1GB of RAM and I installed Vista Home Premium on it and it ran smoothly but more RAM always helps. In fact OSX 10.5 also loves RAM as it uses almost all of it when I pull up System Monitor.

Maybe people buying laptops with Vista pre-installed are dealing with the crapware loaded on to the system in order for that laptop to be offered at a low price.

RE: Limit confusion?
By just4U on 10/18/2008 1:50:19 PM , Rating: 2
I think the key point people are missing is while it runs fine on 1G of ram .. it loves memory and runs better with 2 and 4Gig configurations. The same held true with XP. Sure it ran ok with 256meg on launch but 512 - 1G and 2G it ran even better, so naturally people recommend more ram. And really why not? It's cheap.

RE: Limit confusion?
By Screwballl on 10/18/2008 11:04:03 AM , Rating: 2
so? I got my Vista Ultimate for free from Microsoft... and I still refuse to use it. I saw the bugs and problems early on and when I saw them still present even after SP1 (I kept a partition for testing fresh installs and using for a month or two at a time), I vowed to wait until W7 to see if they are actually listening or just creating Vista version 2.

RE: Limit confusion?
By omnicronx on 10/19/2008 11:50:33 AM , Rating: 2
And you received what in return for paying full price?? I nice box that you are going to throw out?

RE: Limit confusion?
By Reclaimer77 on 10/18/2008 1:34:48 PM , Rating: 2
Windows service packs are largely cumulative security updates & bug fixes and don't really add anything new.

Lie. Might wanna check out xp sp3 patchnotes.

RE: Limit confusion?
By jonmcc33 on 10/18/2008 1:38:31 PM , Rating: 2
True. Even Windows XP SP2 was more than just cumulative updates and bug fixes. Windows Vista SP1 was the same...a lot more than cumulative updates and bug fixes.

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