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Intel says it will work hard to get the business back

Yesterday, Apple refreshed its MacBook line of notebook computers. As was widely rumored, Apple announced a new graphics provider to replace the Intel integrated graphics that was used on the previous MacBook.

NVIDIA replaced Intel as the graphics supplier with the NVIDIA GeForce 9400M sporting 256MB of RAM shared with main system memory. Steve Jobs himself says that the new NVIDIA GPUs deliver five times the graphics power that the notoriously underpowered Intel X3100 integrated graphics system in previous generation MacBooks could muster.

Despite Intel being replaced in the MacBook by NVIDIA graphics, Intel maintains that it's not out of the Apple fold altogether. CNET News quotes an Intel spokesperson saying, "Intel continues to have a strong relationship with Apple. Graphics is a competitive market and we compete for all new business. Intel's technology is integrated throughout Apple's product line but we didn't win this particular design."

Intel may have been replaced by NVIDIA for graphics, but Intel still provides the processors for MacBook systems. Apple has picked the 45nm SSF Penryn processor for the MacBook Air to replace the 65nm SFF Merom used previously. The new processors will boost performance in part by adding cache memory. The 45nm Penryn CPUs have 3MB or 6MB of cache.

Among the new systems introduced yesterday was a new aluminum clad MacBook. In addition to getting the new NVIDIA GPU, the notebook also received a storage bump to 120GB and a Mini DisplayPort connector. The old MacBook is still being offered at a price reduced to $999. Apple has also provided more details on its Brick manufacturing process.

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Apple admits weakness?
By jonmcc33 on 10/15/2008 6:33:43 PM , Rating: 2
...notoriously underpowered Intel X3100 integrated graphics system in previous generation MacBooks could muster.

Wait, Apple admits that their previous generation MacBooks are weak performing?

Still not sure if I'd spend $999 on a $499 laptop.

RE: Apple admits weakness?
By WillBurt on 10/15/2008 11:02:49 PM , Rating: 2
Wait, Apple admits that their previous generation MacBooks are weak performing? Still not sure if I'd spend $999 on a $499 laptop.

Why the hell not? It's the cool and hip thing to do. Plus you won't get hacked like the ghey Veesta!!!



RE: Apple admits weakness?
By kondor999 on 10/16/2008 10:57:22 AM , Rating: 2
9400M? And that's an upgrade? I'm writing this using a Dell XPS M1730 with Dual 8800M GTX's in SLI with an X9000 oc'ed to 3.4Ghz. The case is made from magnesium alloy, not cheap aluminum.

Apple has nothing that even begins to compare.

It amazes me that people still consider them to be leading-edge. In what? Pretty paintjobs and case design?

The only people that are excited about a low-end graphics solution like this are the idiots for whom it represents some sort of upgrade.

In other words: existing Macbook users.

RE: Apple admits weakness?
By Pirks on 10/16/08, Rating: 0
RE: Apple admits weakness?
By kondor999 on 10/16/2008 11:50:40 AM , Rating: 2
I own all the things you mentioned and more. And while I do enjoy my PS3 and 360, they are (effectively - due to insufficent horsepower) limited to 1280x720 and are no longer leading edge. Plus, you picked a couple of rather average "B" titles. If you had a brain, you'd have mentioned MGS4, GT5 and GTA IV. Those are exclusives I wish I could play on the go. Also, comparing a portable system I can take on trips with systems which require a full-fledged home theater system is idiotic.

I can play Crysis on my laptop in 1920x1200. Can your Xbxo360 and PS3? While out of town and away from your HDTV?

I own this laptop because it truly replaces a desktop and allows me to enjoy all the things I love about computers while away from home.

That is Leading Edge to me, and worthy of far more praise than these Macbooks and their pitiful graphics - unfit for any entertainment software written in the past 3 years.

Oh, yeah -- I am rich btw. Is that suddenly a crime?

RE: Apple admits weakness?
By Pirks on 10/16/2008 12:07:34 PM , Rating: 2
No, it's not a crime. If you have money to buy both PS3 and Xbox 360 in addition to that M1730 then I'm taking my words back. Sorry.

RE: Apple admits weakness?
By kondor999 on 10/17/2008 10:18:15 AM , Rating: 2
Well, it sounds like we both love Tech! Again, my problem with these Macbooks is that they just aren't at all innovative.

Their specs are, in fact, decidely boring and equivalent to just another mainstream mid-spec PC notebook. In fact, I could say that about all of Apple's hardware with the exception of the Air.

Their software, however, I find very interesting - and I enjoy the look/feel of OSX immensely. But this ooh-ahh over their mundane hardware just perplexes the Hell out of me.

I am much more fascinated with what the Dell XPS line offers, or the HP Blackbird, or Alienware has on tap. Liquid cooling, carbon-fiber internals, die-cast Magnesium, phase-change cooling, etc.

Those are real innovations that push the edge of the envelope. Not another boring notebook with integrated graphics.

I'm starting to think that Mac's are the Mazda Miata's of the computing world. They just "look sporty". Me - I'd rather drive something with balls - like my Honda S2000.

RE: Apple admits weakness?
By Pirks on 10/17/2008 4:23:19 PM , Rating: 2
Your arguments are very similar to argments between proponents of comfort cars (Lexus) and sporty cars (Vette). Both has their own merits, same is true for the PC industry. I have nothing against sporty PC inductry (Alienware) but comfort PC industry (Apple) seems to appeal to much wider audience these days.

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