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Pre-beta Windows 7 OS will be given to developers at coming conferences

Microsoft Windows Vista is still considered relatively new on the market and some users have not yet upgraded from Windows XP to Vista for a variety of reasons. Microsoft is continuing to allow certain types of computers to run Windows XP thanks to its lower cost and overhead.

Despite being released less than two years ago to the general public, Microsoft is hard at work on the replacement for Vista. DailyTech reported that the next Microsoft PC operating system -- codenamed Windows 7 -- had its first setback in September.  Microsoft had planned to offer the first Windows 7 Beta in October of 2008, that date slipped to December 2008.

Microsoft's Mike Nash wrote in a blog post that Microsoft would be providing a pre-beta version of Windows 7 exclusively to developers to attendees at the PDC and WinHEC developers conferences.

Nash also wrote in the blog post that Microsoft has decided on the final name for the next Windows operating system, and it's one we are familiar with. Microsoft has decided to call the operating system Windows 7. This is the first time a Windows operating system has kept its codename as the official name.

Nash wrote, "The decision to use the name Windows 7 is about simplicity. Over the years, we have taken different approaches to naming Windows.  We've used version numbers like Windows 3.11, or dates like Windows 98, or ‘aspirational’ monikers like Windows XP or Windows Vista.  And since we do not ship new versions of Windows every year, using a date did not make sense. Likewise, coming up with an all-new ‘aspirational’ name does not do justice to what we are trying to achieve, which is to stay firmly rooted in our aspirations for Windows Vista, while evolving and refining the substantial investments in platform technology in Windows Vista into the next generation of Windows."

Details on Windows 7 are still scant, but Nash says that Microsoft will be sharing more in the coming weeks. To this point, feature wise it is known that the OS will support multi-touch and use the same driver system as Windows Vista.

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RE: Windows 7 Will be Awesome!
By Garreye on 10/14/2008 12:31:58 PM , Rating: 4
unfortunately they bulked up the system requirements with unnecessary visual fluff

If you don't like aero, turn it off, but for everyone who owns a GPU that can handle aero (which is pretty much every GPU made in the last few years) why not take advantage of its processing power to run the graphical interface of the OS. To me this is much better than wasting CPU cycles with the interface when the CPU could be doing more useful things.

I think it was the largest sysreq jump between any Windows version ever

It was also the longest time between windows releases, so the largest sysreq jump makes sense.

When you have businesses and schools with pentium 4 512mb computers using your product, you can't be making demanding moves like that.

It seems to me that every business/school should be doing some research before upgrading the OS on their PCs. At which point it would be obvious that it is better to stick with XP unless they are upgrading their hardware first. Even if they think Vista might work they should be doing trials on a few PCs before doing a full upgrade to every PC, during which time they would figure out the hardware is insufficient. But for those people who have sufficient hardware the security advantages alone from Vista are worth upgrading for imho.

RE: Windows 7 Will be Awesome!
By lifeblood on 10/14/2008 12:56:53 PM , Rating: 2
It seems to me that every business/school should be doing some research before upgrading the OS on their PCs.

You'd think, and you would be wrong. I worked at one university, and taught part time at another. At the University where I worked, the CIO wants everyone on Vista for bragging rights about how "modern" and "high tech" the university is. At the college where I taught, the IT folks tested and certified all the College supplied apps. The specialized apps the departments used were ignored. Luckily the science department tested their apps, found most didn't work, and told the IT shop they would not be touching their PC's.

I think that is Vista's failing. It made a bunch of older apps quit working, but didn't provide any new "killer" feature people wanted. All it's improvements were, for the most part, under the hood.

RE: Windows 7 Will be Awesome!
By StraightPipe on 10/14/2008 1:23:43 PM , Rating: 2
It really shoudl be quite good OS. The big problems with Vista on release were due to new API's for sounds, graphics, and more.

Most companies dug in their heals and didnt want to develop new drivers, so there were lots of problems with Vista initially.

This new OS will be more evolutionary than revolutionary, so it will be built on the back of Vista SP1, allowing M$ to smooth out any problems they have remaining.

One big complaint that Win7 will not fix, is ridiculous overhead. There's no going back to trim bloat at this point. They've attempted to address this by making Windows7 Modular, but we wont know how effective this is until we get our hands on the betas.

RE: Windows 7 Will be Awesome!
By BansheeX on 10/14/2008 9:09:18 PM , Rating: 4
If you don't like aero, turn it off, but for everyone who owns a GPU that can handle aero (which is pretty much every GPU made in the last few years) why not take advantage of its processing power to run the graphical interface of the OS.

You don't understand, are you aware of what kind of onboard crap Intel has been pumping out on laptops and desktops? They are the #1 graphics supplier on the market. That is the market. To release a 2d interface that is 3d intensive in this market is asinine. It makes no difference to "offload" things to the GPU when the GPU's suck and the functionality benefit of doing so is completely outweighed by the costs. Look at the emerging netbook market,for god's sake. Vista on them sucks balls. Why? To whose benefit? There are all kinds of ways that MS can REDUCE resource intensiveness... by making code more efficient. By removing existing bloat. By disabling pointless background services by default that no one uses. But they don't, they just keep piling on.

It was also the longest time between windows releases, so the largest sysreq jump makes sense.

And yet, the functionality increase barely budged. Sysreqs go up 6x, functionality barely budges. Open a word document and surf the web on XP with 512mb, same experience and more responsive on XP. What is wrong with that picture? We're not talking about complex 3d games that will continue to demand greater computer resources in its quest towards virtual reality. We're talking about 2d windows, 2d documents, 2d icons, and a 32-bit 2d background image, just like XP but 3x as demanding. We have reached diminishing returns in aesthetics and functionality for this environment with well coded applications. You can't keep justifying 1.5gb RAM increases just to keep doing these exact same things as quickly as their predecessor. You can't keep adding animation after animation to justify it either. That stupid dog in the XP search bar was not progress even though it ate up more resources, believe it or not.

RE: Windows 7 Will be Awesome!
By noirsoft on 10/14/2008 10:17:56 PM , Rating: 2
You really don't understand a thing about computer graphics, do you?

The Aero interface uses 3d hardware to make the UI more responsive and to offload drawing form the CPU to the GPU. All the animations are just a free bonus due to the new compositing model.

And, to counter you, my laptop with 2 gigs of RAM is more responsive with Vista than it was with XP, and certainly more responsive than an XP machine with 512 megs of RAM. And a WIn98 machine with 128 megs of RAM is more responsive than an XP machine with 128 megs of RAM. Your point?

RE: Windows 7 Will be Awesome!
By MamiyaOtaru on 10/15/2008 12:01:06 AM , Rating: 2
Apparently [i]you[/i] don't understand. Offloading to a [i]crappy[/i] GPU (which is most of them; thanks Intel) is no improvement at all.

RE: Windows 7 Will be Awesome!
By rudolphna on 10/15/2008 9:14:39 AM , Rating: 2
while they arent good for gaming.. Intel's graphics run vista fine. I have an older machine with a 3Ghz P4 and a gig of ram, with an Intel GMA950 graphics running Aero just fine. Intel graphics can handle Aero fine. Just dont try running Crysis on them and youll be fine.

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