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OCZs 64GB Core Series SSD now rings up at $99 after rebate

In what must a record for price meltdowns on brand new technology, OCZ's Core Series SSDs have taken yet another nose dive in pricing.

Last week, DailyTech reported that the 32GB OCZ Core SSD dropped down to an unheard of $99 after a $60 mail-in rebate. This week, it looks as though it's the 64GB version's turn to take a price cut.

Newegg is now listing the 64GB Core Series SSD at $99 after a $70 mail-in rebate. In roughly a week, the customers can now get twice the space at the same price -- that's quite incredible considering the drives retailed for $259 when they were introduced just over two months ago.

The price cuts, however, come shortly after an AnandTech review criticized the drives for poor performance. From the AnandTech review:

As I've mentioned before, the random write issues with JMicron JMF602 based MLC SSDs are simply unacceptable and in my opinion they make the drives unusable for use in any desktop or notebook that you actually care about. Next year we may see a JMicron controller that fixes the problem but until then, I'd consider those drives off limits.

Although it's unknown which controller the new Super Talent MasterDrive OX SSDs are using, they are ringing up at $149, $259, and $419 for 32GB, 64GB, and 128GB models respectively for comparison.

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soon, they will be affordable...
By Gul Westfale on 9/17/2008 11:31:14 PM , Rating: 2
i recently bought an 8GB SDHC card for my camera for a lousy 20 bucks... a year ago that would have been close to $100. if this continues (and it will, yay!), we'll be able to buy 100GB flash drives for $50 by the end of next year. maybe then i'll put one in my PS3.

RE: soon, they will be affordable...
By retrospooty on 9/17/2008 11:54:21 PM , Rating: 3
Ya, but these are the crappy flash drives that have I/O problems and cant really be used for system drives (unless you like alot of stalling). The good ones with SLC meory are still rediculously expensive.

RE: soon, they will be affordable...
By erikejw on 9/18/2008 12:32:18 PM , Rating: 5
The stalling problem have nothing whatsoever with MLC flash as you insinuate. It is a controller problem.

SLC with the same controller and the drive is useless too.

RE: soon, they will be affordable...
By leexgx on 9/18/2008 9:13:49 PM , Rating: 2
The MLC drives all use the JMF602 and the SLC drives use the Samsung S3C49RBX01 host controller

MLC drives are the only ones that have the problems as thay use the JMF602 (thought thay was bad on motherboards so puting them on an hard disk was expected to suck)

unless its an intel drive so that be fixed soon i guess on other MLC based disks (unless thay buy the tech form intel) (easy to read as all pages are on one page just press cancel on print when it opens)

RE: soon, they will be affordable...
By xsilver on 9/17/2008 11:56:18 PM , Rating: 2
i think at the moment its the isolated incident of this particular ssd speed being sucky. If they continue to drop this fast they'll be PAYING YOU $99 to take them by next wednesday! ;)

64gb is getting to the sweet spot for an OS install as well. Another one can be added as a caching drive?

RE: soon, they will be affordable...
By kilkennycat on 9/18/2008 1:12:41 AM , Rating: 1
Another one added as a caching drive? You sure want to wear it out fast.....

By xsilver on 9/18/2008 1:38:47 AM , Rating: 2
what I meant was if you dont want to use it as an OS install drive, it can be a drive for storing workspace files for encoding/photoshop/3ds etc. not a page file drive.

I thought that was the only other real application for these drives?
Plus I thought these drives wearing out fast were unfounded?

RE: soon, they will be affordable...
By anonymo on 9/18/2008 7:59:05 AM , Rating: 2
I can't say specifically whether this drive uses wear leveling or not, but if it does its lifespan will far outmatch that of traditional spinning disc drives.

By Alexvrb on 9/19/2008 12:24:41 AM , Rating: 2
Wear patterns don't concern me that much. I'm sure they use wear leveling and happy math (users don't write data, count hours the drive is powered off, etc) to come up with their 1.5 million hour MTBF figure. If the drive is just that damned durable, why the 2 year warranty? Plenty of shoddy stoneage mechanical drives have 3-5 year warranties - and the vast majority of mechanical drives make it past their warranty. It's good business sense.

The only thing I can think of that would make a lot of these (consumer grade) SSDs come with relatively short warranties is that they're much more concerned about random premature component failures, than they are about someone wearing out flash cells during typical use. Or perhaps they know something we don't.

Anyway, it doesn't matter much. I think they're cutting price on Core to make room for Core V2 and beyond.

RE: soon, they will be affordable...
By abzillah on 9/18/2008 12:44:50 AM , Rating: 2
I think this is wonderful, because customers will get used to lower prices and that is what will be expected. This will force the next generation of SDDs to be lower in price and it will force Intel to drop prices too when their SDDs come out. If the next generation SDDs are 1.5 times this price, I would buy 4 for Raid 0! If they are double the price, then I would 2!

RE: soon, they will be affordable...
By icanhascpu on 9/18/2008 1:09:54 AM , Rating: 2
Somewhat. Consumers? No. This is aimed at enthusiasts and some OEMs that can buy in bulk anyway.

The problem with aiming things at enthusiasts is you can’t f with them much. They kind of know what they are doing (usually) and most people know that these drives have a shuddering issue that makes them WORTH $100.

Even with the shuddering issue, this is a good deal, just remember what to expect, and don’t confuse it with other drives that work properly. Intel by no means will have to compete with 100$ price point for even their cheap 64GB drive because, well, Intel has a quality product and this is economy class

RE: soon, they will be affordable...
By feraltoad on 9/18/2008 1:56:25 AM , Rating: 2
I'm expecting to see some forum conversations similar to the past, "no, you can't a get a great gaming PCI video card, that's why I said make sure it had an AGP slot BEFORE you bought it...".

RE: soon, they will be affordable...
By Samus on 9/18/2008 4:29:27 AM , Rating: 5
You do realize magnetic storage is going the way of beta (which was magnetic heh) but 5 years, laptops and most desktops aren't going to have hard disks. I suspect capacity of these is going to catch up with hard disks by then, and price parity will be insignificant to justify the huge disadvantages of hard disks (power, weight, shock/vibration damage, heat, unpredictable crashes, size, and of course, performance.

They're only going to get faster and cheaper. Hard disk's aren't. They're just going to get larger, and in a matter of time, they will hit their technological limit that will require a new form of technology.

After all, we don't use punch cards anymore.,,/Tim

By icanhascpu on 9/18/2008 4:41:53 AM , Rating: 2
Any valid point you had was drown in a sea of exaggerations.

10 years and ill agree to most of that, except they arnt getting faster and cheaper? Where have you been when they tought the last 50 years of tech history? They are 10+X the speed and nearly 100x the capacity they were 10 years ago. What a silly statement.

I expect SSD to improve at a faster rate, but lets keep our minds in reality here.

RE: soon, they will be affordable...
By Chaser on 9/18/2008 8:37:21 AM , Rating: 2
There's no "sea of exaggeration" here. SSD drives are the next viable step from magnetic hard drives considering their limitations and various shortfalls. And there are, we've just lived with them.

Also SSD's are emerging product from the computer consumer's standpoint. But in this case it's in a niche that promises a significant amount of system performance to be gained. In addition to capacity increases there will be also be the "GT", "XT", "PRO" versions, its 3D cards all over again.

And another factor to drive this technology will be margins. Magnetic media in nearly all forms is quickly becoming extinct. Improving performance on conventional hard drives today takes a high amount of R&D, more money, more power, higher speeds, more heat, etc. SSD's are a new technology and for the most part we are at the beginning.

All it could take would be a simple tweak or new controllor chips whatever that results in noticably faster performance, you a new label on it, throw out a couple of good reviews, along with a decent price and off the shelves it will go.

5 years really is not an exaggeration. Here they come!

By icanhascpu on 9/18/2008 6:09:04 PM , Rating: 1
If you think it will take only 5 years to phase out HDD, youre an idiot.

By mathew7 on 9/18/2008 2:56:20 AM , Rating: 2
Don't get your hopes up. SDHC was a competitior only to SD and in 1 year it's userbase was raised a lot (it seems that even my 2-year-old PDA has a hack to enable the usage of SDHC). So they needed only to raise the production (even with same performance). But SSDs have to take the market share from HDDs, which are already way cheaper than SSDs, so there is a very small market for SSDs, hence their price will fall a lot slower (unless a company risks bankrupcy to force very-low prices).
However, 100GB for 50$ seems a reazonable estimate for 1 more year.

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