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Microsoft makes Xbox 360 cuts official

Microsoft's Xbox 360 has been on the market in North America since November of 2005. Since that time, Microsoft has introduced new models and cut prices on select models.

The most recent price cut was applied to the 20GB Xbox 360 when it dropped from $349 to $299 to make room for the new 60GB model.

Today, Microsoft made its across-the-board price cuts official. The 120GB Xbox 360 Elite dropped in price from $449 down to $399. The recently introduced 60GB Xbox 360 Pro also took a $50 nose dive to $299. Finally, the Xbox 360 Core is now priced at a reasonable $199. The previous 20GB Xbox 360 Pro is now discontinued.

"We are thrilled to be the first next-generation console on the market to reach $199, a price that invites everyone to enjoy Xbox 360,” said Microsoft Interactive Entertainment Business Senior VP Don Mattrick. "Xbox 360 delivers amazing performance at an extraordinary value with the leading online service and best lineup of games, downloadable movies and TV shows available from a console. The majority of consumers make the decision to buy consoles once the price falls to this mark, making this an important milestone for consumers and the industry."

Those most likely to be shaking their heads -- or fists -- at this latest announcement are those that recently thought they were getting a slick deal when the 60GB Xbox 360 Pro was introduced at $349. Newcomers to the Xbox 360 fold are likely to appreciate this move, but current Xbox 60GB Pro owners may wish to go on an iPhone-esque rampage.

According to Microsoft's press release, the new pricing goes into effect September 5.

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By BruceLeet on 9/3/2008 7:37:45 PM , Rating: 1

I can make the bag say Glute Implants Inc.

RE: Erhm
By FITCamaro on 9/3/2008 7:42:12 PM , Rating: 5
How about "Stupid Spoiled Whore: Video Playset"

RE: Erhm
By BruceLeet on 9/3/2008 7:48:12 PM , Rating: 2
or the "How to grow an ass for dummies" handbook.

RE: Erhm
By Pirks on 9/3/2008 7:58:50 PM , Rating: 2
She looked much better in House of Wax when Vincent got to her ;-)

RE: Erhm
By NinjaJedi on 9/3/2008 10:24:04 PM , Rating: 3
Make it say "The lemmiwinks playset"

RE: Erhm
By FITCamaro on 9/3/2008 11:06:20 PM , Rating: 2
South Park dude.

RE: Erhm
By Alexvrb on 9/3/2008 7:58:52 PM , Rating: 2
Will there be a whore-off?

RE: Erhm
By Brandon Hill on 9/3/2008 8:16:30 PM , Rating: 5
"Ohh geez-sus"

RE: Erhm
By daftrok on 9/3/2008 11:20:08 PM , Rating: 2
Paris, you must find a way out of this place or you'll surely die. Make your way to the small intestine, there you will meet the Sparrow who will guide you to Catatafish. Now go Paris Hilton, make haste!

RE: Erhm
By FITCamaro on 9/3/2008 11:07:16 PM , Rating: 5
I dunno. Just know she's ugly.

RE: Erhm
By Samus on 9/4/2008 5:22:41 AM , Rating: 2
It doesn't matter matter how she looks when the lights are off and the NightShot(tm) is on

RE: Erhm
By omnicronx on 9/4/2008 9:51:13 AM , Rating: 2
Her head is too big for her body, and her face looks like some kind of rodent.. I have never found her attractive, especially with a nose that probably waves like a flag in the wind..

RE: Erhm
By FITCamaro on 9/4/2008 10:19:54 AM , Rating: 2
For me its because she's so damn thin. I find a girl who's a size 4-10 (depending on height) far more attractive than a girl who's a 0. I want some meat. I want a round butt. I don't wanna think I'm gonna break them.

RE: Erhm
By OdinX on 9/4/2008 6:33:37 PM , Rating: 2

I'd hit it.

RE: Erhm
By BruceLeet on 9/5/2008 6:59:02 PM , Rating: 2
Speaking of, has anyone seen her on Letterman? Seems like a nice guy, and even he couldn't help but harass her in front of his audience, who fkn loved it btw

Disclaimer: I did not watch the show on TV, wouldn't be interested. But I came across it on youtube. "Paris Hilton gets humiliated by David Letterman"

Are these with 65nm GPUs or not yet?
By Pirks on 9/3/2008 7:53:43 PM , Rating: 2
I thought they'd lower prices because of 65nm GPU introduction, now I'm not so sure. Looks like they can lower prices independently of introduction of die shrink. Interesting.

RE: Are these with 65nm GPUs or not yet?
By Alexvrb on 9/3/2008 7:58:32 PM , Rating: 2
Do you know what process the GPU is being produced with currently?

RE: Are these with 65nm GPUs or not yet?
By Pirks on 9/3/2008 8:02:37 PM , Rating: 1

RE: Are these with 65nm GPUs or not yet?
By FITCamaro on 9/3/2008 11:02:39 PM , Rating: 2

By therealnickdanger on 9/4/2008 6:21:04 PM , Rating: 2
70nm, do I have 70? 70! 70! 80? 80 going once... 80 going twice...

RE: Are these with 65nm GPUs or not yet?
By Alexvrb on 9/4/2008 6:58:11 PM , Rating: 2
He took the bait and posted the answer I expected him to. I couldn't resist after reading his post. :P

RE: Are these with 65nm GPUs or not yet?
By Pirks on 9/5/2008 9:33:14 PM , Rating: 2
Neither you nor Camaro know for sure it's 80nm and not 90nm, but keep your delusions if it helps you to stay happy, I don't mind ;-)

By Alexvrb on 9/9/2008 12:32:13 AM , Rating: 2
It is not 90nm. Wait, no, I'm wrong and you're right, it was reduced in size without a die shrink! Hot damn that's impressive!

Say, I happened upon an interesting web site. I think you should check it out. It's called Anandtech, you may have heard of them. They're pretty reputable, from what I understand.

Keep fooling yourself, if it makes you happy.

RE: Are these with 65nm GPUs or not yet?
By 16nm on 9/3/2008 8:05:06 PM , Rating: 2
I think the GPU will be 65nm by Christmas. I seem to remember reading it either here or in a forum somewhere.

But I do question why they are dropping prices like this. I wonder if it is because they will be coming out with a new XBOX line w/bluray support.

By Pirks on 9/3/2008 8:16:04 PM , Rating: 2
why they are dropping prices like this
It's a dieshrink, man! That's why

By daftrok on 9/3/2008 11:22:40 PM , Rating: 3
The main reason would be lagging sales. For the past several months the 360 has been outsold by the PS3 and now its time to get competitive for the fall season. Also to make way for the 60GB Xbox 360 and because of the GPU dieshrink. Hopefully PS3 will retaliate with a $299 80GB and $399 160GB PS3 price point.

By Darkk on 9/4/2008 10:55:44 PM , Rating: 2
I too am waiting for the refresh to happen so I can pick up the NEW one.

By MonkeyPaw on 9/3/2008 10:28:52 PM , Rating: 2
One way to see if the new GPU is inside is to see if the wattage of the power brick has dropped again. As I recall, when the CPU went 65nm, we saw a pretty decent watt reduction in the PSU.

I wonder if ATI is going to use its well-established 55nm node on this shrink. It would save MS even more money, and it's not like the process hasn't been proven yet.

RE: Are these with 65nm GPUs or not yet?
By Fnoob on 9/4/2008 9:37:41 AM , Rating: 2
Believe it or not, the vomit coloured Halo model that was out last fall actually shipped with the 65nm die shrink.

By FITCamaro on 9/4/2008 10:20:21 AM , Rating: 2
That was the CPU, not the GPU.

More like it
By v1001 on 9/3/2008 8:23:17 PM , Rating: 5
$199 is one hell of a good price

RE: More like it
By joex444 on 9/3/2008 8:57:51 PM , Rating: 2
If you can pick up a used working 20GB drive for <$100 then you've got a fully working 360. Ever notice the price on their memory cards....?

RE: More like it
By Circle T on 9/3/2008 10:04:30 PM , Rating: 1
Or the 120GB HDD?

Hello, MS marketing? You clearly don't get it. Let's see...

$150 for a big hard drive, or $50 more gets me the entire console. Which also means, take a $200 Arcade, spend $150 for the 120GB drive, and you essentially have a $350 Elite, not the $400 they are now. A headset and a cheap HDMI cable and your set, with $$$ to spare.

Or the Wireless adapter? So, for $100 I can add wifi to my console. OR for $30 more I can get AN ENTIRE GAME CONSOLE in the Nintendo DS. Which has 2 screens, a touch screen, a big game library, oh yea, AND WIFI!!! WTF MS??

Look, I love my 360. And, these are the prices that should help move some more units. But, they really need to work on the pricing of their accessories for it. Everything is just WAY to expensive. I mean, really? Who the F thinks that $150 for a 120GB drive is logical these days? Seriously.

RE: More like it
By Digimonkey on 9/4/2008 8:12:44 AM , Rating: 2
They hardly make anything off the consoles. It's the accessories and games where they make the money, so I can't see the price of accessories going down any time soon.

RE: More like it
By Circle T on 9/4/2008 1:29:11 PM , Rating: 1
I understand that. That's not my point though. I'm not arguing with them selling games/accessories/LIVE to make up the difference in the revenue loss from the consoles themselves. Its the ACTUAL cost they charge for some of these accessories that I don't get.

But, apparently I'm missing something. I question the price of the 120GB drive being $150, and the wifi adapter being $100, and I get voted down. So, I guess there are people out there who don't care about what they are spending on this stuff.

RE: More like it
By Digimonkey on 9/4/2008 2:05:15 PM , Rating: 2
We know the price doesn't seem fair, but questioning the price of console accessories is like questioning why you pay $8 for a bag of popcorn at the movies. They charge that much because they can.

RE: More like it
By Circle T on 9/4/2008 2:50:39 PM , Rating: 2
We know the price doesn't seem fair, but...They charge that much because they can.

So, you're one of the "Bend over and let MS give it to you" type of people, eh? I personally don't buy any of that crap. The only accessory I possibly purchase for any of my consoles is extra controllers. I got an Elite at launch, and it had everything else I would need. Same with my PS3, no need for any extras.

Here is an even better example. The Elite is $100 more expensive than the Pro. Sure, it has twice the HDD capacity, but in MS own pricing, that difference is only $50? So, is the other $50 the "Black Tax" for having a different color? OH WAIT, no. Its because they think the HDMI cable costs $50. That's right. It all adds up. And completely logically. [/rolleyes]

RE: More like it
By Digimonkey on 9/4/2008 3:52:52 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not really a console game player. Although I do own an Xbox 360, it's mostly just for games I want which don't or will not in the near future have a PC version. I've never actually purchased any accessories for it.

If you don't like the price of their accessories then don't buy them, or don't buy an Xbox 360 for that matter. Complaining about it, or asking why they charge so much is not going to change anything. Yes MS is price gouging accessories, but an educated shopper will take this into consideration before purchasing the system.

RE: More like it
By Circle T on 9/4/2008 8:29:49 PM , Rating: 2
Complaining about it, or asking why they charge so much is not going to change anything.

OK, so thats a "Yes" with regards to letting MS, or any company for that matter, just give it to you hard. Glad we cleared that up.

Look, if people don't complain about this stuff, then nothing EVER will change. There will always be ignorant people out there who just assume that the prices are fair, and buy things no-questions-asked. Note I said ignorant, and not stupid. If they don't know better, then how do they question it.

But, in this internet age, where all this info is readily available, people who don't do their research on this type of purchase deserve to be basically robbed. It's up to the rest of us, who understand how to research a purchase to not only NOT BUY that crap, but to also let them know that the prices are ridiculous.

As I said, I don't buy any of this crap. And, I try to make sure that neither do any of my friends. If enough people hear this stuff, and start to understand how it works, they will stop buying it, and prices will change. But, if everyone has the attitude that you do, where things are the way they are, and nothing you do will change that, then we're all screwed.

RE: More like it
By Bioniccrackmonk on 9/3/2008 10:10:24 PM , Rating: 2
A lot of good it will be without a HDD. Good luck saving all your games and downloading anything with that. In my eyes, the cheapest worth while version is the one with a HDD. Otherwise, you have a next gen console with limited capacity for anything.

RE: More like it
By JustTom on 9/4/2008 1:24:34 AM , Rating: 2
I wouldn't buy a console with no HD but the lowest priced XBOX is the arcade which does come with a memory card. This should be sufficient for game saves.

RE: More like it
By therealnickdanger on 9/4/2008 6:25:51 PM , Rating: 2
Yup, it is sufficient for game saves, however you can count all DLC (downloadable content) off limits as well as any other content AND backward compatibility.

By Pirks on 9/3/2008 8:10:11 PM , Rating: 3
By joex444 on 9/3/2008 8:56:31 PM , Rating: 3
You realize that's a 1 year old RUMOR article, right?

By Pirks on 9/3/2008 9:22:02 PM , Rating: 2
You realize that so far there were no facts shown that prove this rumor wrong? Instead, there is a significant piece of evidence supporting that rumor. This evidence is called "price drop".

By JustTom on 9/4/2008 1:47:34 AM , Rating: 3
The problem with using the price drop as 'evidence' of this rumor is there are alternative explanations for the price drop. The most likely, IMO, being sales suck.

If their is a die shrink we will know soon enough when someone tears apart a new XBox. But if a person is waiting for the die shrink to purchase his console he should wait till the shrink is confirmed.

By hydmoghul on 9/4/2008 5:46:48 AM , Rating: 5
Good pic brandon, easy to understand that XBOX is now the cheapest model

RE: Cheap
By althaz on 9/5/2008 12:15:42 AM , Rating: 2

why the price drop
By iheartzoloft on 9/3/2008 9:18:21 PM , Rating: 4
Perhaps another reason for the price drop is the swift nad kicking the wii is handing out on a regular basis.

By JustTom on 9/4/2008 1:28:16 AM , Rating: 2

The arcade is much more attractive than the core. Although I'd still not buy one...

By V3ctorPT on 9/4/08, Rating: -1
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