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2010 Honda Insight  (Source: LeftLane News)
Fuel economy is rumored to be around 71 MPG

To many in America, the hybrid car is nearly synonymous with the Toyota Prius. In fact, many think that the Toyota Prius was the first hybrid car sold in America. Those who believe the Prius was first are very wrong.

Honda first brought the hybrid vehicle to the U.S. with its Insight, which was far from a sales success. The Insight sold only 2,000 units in 2005 and in 2006 -- its last year of production -- Honda only moved 1,000 Insights.

LeftLane News reports that Honda is gearing up to bring the Insight hybrid back as a 2010 model. The new Insight will use a 1.3-liter Integrated Motor Assist system that is similar to the one found in the current Honda Civic Hybrid. DailyTech reported in July of 2008 that Honda has refined its hybrid system and that future versions would be 50% less expensive to build than the current system.

The Insight will use the new, refined hybrid system. Thanks to the cheaper hybrid drive system LeftLane News reports that the new 2010 Insight will sell for $18,500 -- significantly cheaper than the Toyota Prius. The new Insight is based on the Honda Fit, though reports say that it will be three inches longer and about one inch wider than the Fit.

Fuel economy for the Insight is reported to be as high as 71 miles per gallon. If the Insight fuel economy comes anywhere close to that number at the $18,500 MSR, Honda will have a hard time keeping up with the demand for the Insight when it hits Honda showrooms in mid or late 2009.

Honda says it will build 200,000 Insights annually and expects to sell half of that amount in America. The Insight seen in the photo here is a development car; the car is expected to be officially introduced at the Paris Motor Show or the L.A. Auto Show.

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RE: Insight?
By FITCamaro on 8/5/2008 2:57:27 PM , Rating: 5
It's called natural selection. Deal with it.

If you're too stupid to look both ways before walking out into the street, you deserve the consequences.

RE: Insight?
By TheSpaniard on 8/5/2008 3:05:35 PM , Rating: 3
no kidding

they actually installed a speaker that imitated the normal bus noise. I hope they don't do that on future full-electric vehicles. I like that NON-rumbling sound

RE: Insight?
By FITCamaro on 8/5/2008 3:09:51 PM , Rating: 2
Here in Charleston when going downtown, I've nearly run over a few stupid rich b*tches who decide that they have the right to step out on the street into moving traffic while chatting on their cell phone as they go shopping.

I usually just roll down the window and shout "Sorry for interrupting your phone call by trying not to run you over b*tch!"

RE: Insight?
By Polynikes on 8/5/2008 3:19:34 PM , Rating: 2
I'd hit 'em anyway. There are crosswalks for a reason.

RE: Insight?
By Doormat on 8/5/2008 3:30:34 PM , Rating: 3
120db horn.

And earplugs.

RE: Insight?
By bobny1 on 8/6/2008 8:21:19 AM , Rating: 2
You can always install a music speaker like the icecream trucks in NYC. LOL

RE: Insight?
By TSS on 8/5/2008 5:29:13 PM , Rating: 2
try old people and you can leave out the cell phone and the shopping.

though i haven't got a car, i have been riding a bicycle all my life (it's a bit more effective to get around here in densly packed holland) and i've also been dodging old people crossing over all my life. not to mention dodging old people driving and stopping a little too late.

but hell, it keeps the natural selection game exciting.

RE: Insight?
By kmmatney on 8/6/2008 12:49:05 AM , Rating: 2
I spent 2 weeks working in Belgium (Leuven) and used a bicycle the whole time. I never had any need for a car - it was great.

RE: Insight?
By tmouse on 8/6/2008 8:12:25 AM , Rating: 2
Think about it, it would have no measurable effect on natural selection since they have already spread their genomes. It’s also a condition you will have unless you’re "lucky" enough to die young (now that would have an effect on natural selection).

RE: Insight?
By exanimas on 8/5/2008 6:24:01 PM , Rating: 5
A buddy of mine has straight-pipes on his Camaro. Get that done and I don't think you'll have to worry about people not hearing you.

RE: Insight?
By walk2k on 8/5/08, Rating: -1
RE: Insight?
By Spuke on 8/6/2008 12:34:25 PM , Rating: 2
No he wouldn't. What the hell is wrong with having some fun in life? It's obvious that cars are his hobby. And there's nothing wrong with having a hobby. You don't see me coming to your house slapping d%&ks out of your mouth, do you?

RE: Insight?
By Spuke on 8/6/2008 3:13:57 PM , Rating: 3
Rate me down all you want. Some of you people have serious depression issues and need to seek professional help. It's ok to be happy.

RE: Insight?
By Diesel Donkey on 8/7/2008 11:37:39 AM , Rating: 3
The only problem with having that sort of fun is when somebody takes a car like that into a sleeping, or otherwise quiet, neighborhood and stands on the accelerator to get between stop signs. Motorcyclists seem to particularly love doing that.

RE: Insight?
By Samus on 8/6/2008 4:43:30 AM , Rating: 4
My 82 Mercury Capri can get 11mpg highway if I drive gently. But more typically I'm in the 5mpg ballpark. 650hp 302's don't exactly sip gasoline through a straw, they drink it straight up. They aint exactly quiet either. Just the other day my neighbor came out and yelled at me that he flew off his toilet when I started her up. His problem.

RE: Insight?
By FITCamaro on 8/6/2008 7:22:20 AM , Rating: 2
Sounds like you're probably also running a pretty tall gear in the rearend.

RE: Insight?
By Spuke on 8/5/2008 3:12:11 PM , Rating: 5
I want mine to sound like two hollowed out coconuts.

RE: Insight?
By tastyratz on 8/6/2008 12:13:47 AM , Rating: 4
Soldier: Found them? In Mercia? The coconut's tropical!
King Arthur: What do you mean?
Soldier: Well, this is a temperate zone
King Arthur: The swallow may fly south with the sun or the house martin or the plover may seek warmer climes in winter, yet these are not strangers to our land?
Soldier: Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
King Arthur: Not at all. They could be carried.
Soldier: What? A swallow carrying a coconut?
King Arthur: It could grip it by the husk!
Soldier: It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.
King Arthur: Well, it doesn't matter. Will you go and tell your master that Arthur from the Court of Camelot is here?
Soldier: Listen. In order to maintain air-speed velocity, a swallow needs to beat its wings forty-three times every second, right?
King Arthur: Please!
Soldier: Am I right?

RE: Insight?
By goz314 on 8/5/08, Rating: -1
RE: Insight?
By FITCamaro on 8/5/2008 4:04:17 PM , Rating: 5
Drivers are required to yield at a crosswalk. Big difference between someone walking out into the street. Blame the driver then, not the vehicle. That kind of accident will likely happen regardless of whether the person is blind.

RE: Insight?
By mindless1 on 8/5/2008 7:47:17 PM , Rating: 1
I don't think you are seeing the point which is not to place blame but to keep people from getting killed. A blind person that hears the car coming at least has a chance if they can hear the noise approaching rapidly.

I'm not suggesting it should be audible to us though, but a system where it creates a radio signal which a blind person can hear through a variable intensity receiver might be fair. It might also be useful for proximity detection for future crash avoidance systems in cars, or at least a suppliment to optical or self-generated detection type sensing.

RE: Insight?
By Spuke on 8/6/2008 12:50:05 PM , Rating: 2
A blind person that hears the car coming at least has a chance if they can hear the noise approaching rapidly.
Blind people usually have dogs.

RE: Insight?
By mindless1 on 8/8/2008 10:21:25 PM , Rating: 2
Correct me if I'm wrong but dogs have ears too?

RE: Insight?
By Spuke on 8/11/2008 11:22:09 AM , Rating: 2
They hear MUCH better than we do and likely would hear the car coming before a human would.

RE: Insight?
By mindless1 on 8/13/2008 1:25:02 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, all the more significant it is then to have audible, yet unobtrusive, warning systems.

RE: Insight?
By jconan on 8/6/2008 4:08:35 AM , Rating: 3
in CA, here's the CA Vehicle Code regarding pedestrians...

California Vehicle Code Section 21950

Legal Research Home > California Lawyer > Vehicle Code > California Vehicle Code Section 21950

(a) The driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way to
a pedestrian crossing the roadway within any marked crosswalk or
within any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, except as otherwise
provided in this chapter.
(b) This section does not relieve a pedestrian from the duty of
using due care for his or her safety. No pedestrian may suddenly
leave a curb or other place of safety and walk or run into the path
of a vehicle that is so close as to constitute an immediate hazard.
No pedestrian may unnecessarily stop or delay traffic while in a
marked or unmarked crosswalk.
(c) The driver of a vehicle approaching a pedestrian within any
marked or unmarked crosswalk shall exercise all due care and shall
reduce the speed of the vehicle or take any other action relating to
the operation of the vehicle as necessary to safeguard the safety of
the pedestrian.
(d) Subdivision (b) does not relieve a driver of a vehicle from
the duty of exercising due care for the safety of any pedestrian
within any marked crosswalk or within any unmarked crosswalk at an

RE: Insight?
By Oregonian2 on 8/6/2008 2:15:30 PM , Rating: 2
I haven't checked the local laws lately, but way back when I had to know that stuff, they said pedestrians had the right of way in two situations:

1. - When they have the right of way
2. - When they don't.

RE: Insight?
By DeepBlue1975 on 8/5/2008 5:45:13 PM , Rating: 5
Should have a 6 for that comment.

It's a pity we live in an idiot proof wannabe world, and the not so stupid out there are forced to bear the burden of being treated as stupids and are usually forced to accept getting the less stupid deals instead of the most intelligent ones.

RE: Insight?
By raejae on 8/6/08, Rating: -1
RE: Insight?
By Alexstarfire on 8/6/2008 8:13:51 AM , Rating: 2
God.... why do the normal people get punished because of those who have disabilities. They are supposed to learn how to deal with it. In other words, mold to the world around them... not the other way around. Sure.. we have compromises, like wheelchair ramps, but you don't see us putting cowbells on people and speakers on walls just so the blind know where to go.

RE: Insight?
By DeepBlue1975 on 8/6/2008 9:51:26 PM , Rating: 2
Quite true.
People with disabilities should be helped by providing them better means to move around society, not by expecting every normal guy out there to be thinking that in any moment he could come across a blind person who doesn't hear his car coming.

Anyway new cars are silent enough to not be heard among traffic when they are running on just impulse (ie, gas pedal untouched, just slowly moving by inertia to a full, but gradual, stop).

So just to make a little fraction of people aware of otherwise silent cars, everyone else would have to bear with continuing to get deafer everyday because of added artificial car noise. Great.
This way the punishment for the disability of a few is to help accelerate the discomfort of everyone else.

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