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Pornographers band together under The PAK Group to take on smut pirates

Apparently fed up with the lack of progress and high expense of attacking individual file sharers, porn industry leader Jason Tucker announced that his anti-piracy organization, The PAK Group, is going to start litigating websites that offer stolen porn instead.

The PAK Group was founded in September 2007 by a coalition of producers angry with the spread of piracy online. It originally set out to attack individual file-sharers online, much like the RIAA.

Tucker’s new target refers largely to the deluge of “tube” websites that have sprung up in the past few years: styled after the ever-so-popular YouTube, there are now hundreds of these sites offering free streaming video complete with search engines, indexed content, tagging, and in some cases even a download option. Much of their content, however, is pirated.

“The use of stolen content had become so pervasive that I couldn't surf the adult Internet without running into stolen copies of our images,” said Tucker in an interview with industry periodical XBIZ. “Not only did this really put a damper on my late-night porn surfing, but it upset me to no end. Instead of enjoying adult entertainment, I started using those late-night hours to document thieves.”

The problem with tubes is synonymous with the copyright difficulties that YouTube occasionally finds itself in; except in the tubes’ case, there are no real challengers – until now. This, combined with the numerous porn-only BitTorrent trackers and the copious amounts of porn available on Usenet and other P2P networks, prompted Tucker and his group into action.

Tucker told XBIZ thatThe PAK Group now has software – written in-house by the group’s head lawyer, who once called himself a “better programmer than he is an attorney” – that “spiders websites, only grabbing the content we tell it to find.”

“Once it finds the content, it documents everything that a lawyer needs to prove that the thief was in fact using stolen content,” said Tucker.

The PAK Group is now close to filing its first lawsuit against “a major tube site,” and has plans to “follow that up with a lot more.”

“No one is immune,” he said. “The big problem I see right now is not outsiders doing this; rather, it is people who purport to be contributing members in our industry. As a result, we know who is doing this, we know where they are, we know where they process transactions, we know where they bank, we know where they host and we know where they live.

“This means when we come for you, we know how to get you. To the thieves that laugh about this, remember that we are coordinated. We are your affiliates, we are the guys you sit next to at industry dinners and the people that bump your posts on boards. Hiding is hard to do when we know what you look like, bro.”

The Group’s shift in strategy, from individual file-sharers to the sites they visit, stems largely due to the expense, frustration, and ultimate ineffectiveness in going after single users.

“I don't currently see the problem with the end users as much as I do companies creating locations where the exploitation of stolen works is encouraged,” said Tucker.

 “I'm sure the RIAA's nearly decade-long efforts was what ultimately convinced them,” posited ZeroPaid blogger soulxtc.

There is some value in tube websites, however: there are “viable business models” in social video-sharing websites, notes Tucker, but right now his organization is more interested in making sure that the porn industry adheres to a basic respect of intellectual property rights. “Self policing is a must. MySpace and YouTube cleaned up their act, so it can be done.”

MySpace and YouTube have a widely different draw, however – the focus with most tubes is professional content, as homemade videos that lends YouTube its greatness serving as a far smaller contributor. If the tubes lost their professional, pirated content, how much would be left?

Ultimately, like the death of OiNK or ShareReactor – the former of which spawned a pair of successful, still-running spin-offs – it could drive porn file-sharing community further underground.

Regardless, Tucker promised the world that his organization – backed by groups like the AVN Media Network – is indeed serious.

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who watches that ?
By mforce on 8/2/2008 12:07:43 PM , Rating: 4
Now who watches porn anyway. There's not a single porn on my hard drive ( nose grows bigger ). You people that watch such things should be ashamed of yourselves and stealing it, that's even worse :). Still even with less money maybe the porn stars will just do it for fun, right ? :)
Maybe Seagate's CEO knew what he was talking about when he said that bigger hard drives are for storing more porn.

RE: who watches that ?
By AntiV6 on 8/2/2008 12:43:49 PM , Rating: 2
Well, uh, what else are they for?

How many people can honestly justify those new 1.5 Terabyte drives coming out soon? haha

RE: who watches that ?
By Diosjenin on 8/2/2008 1:47:11 PM , Rating: 3
Anime freaks. The whole of One Piece alone (as much as possible in HD) takes up about 85GB. Admittedly that's a longer-running series than most, but multiply a 30GB series by, say, four dozen (not as out of the ordinary for an anime freak as you'd think), and suddenly you're at 1,440GB.

RE: who watches that ?
By AnnihilatorX on 8/2/2008 3:08:01 PM , Rating: 5
Yet, best of both: Anime porn freaks

RE: who watches that ?
By joex444 on 8/2/2008 3:20:50 PM , Rating: 2
Nice... a hentai joke.

RE: who watches that ?
By MamiyaOtaru on 8/2/2008 7:54:09 PM , Rating: 5
Who's joking?

RE: who watches that ?
By rykerabel on 8/4/2008 6:32:22 PM , Rating: 2

RE: who watches that ?
By DASQ on 8/5/2008 2:47:30 PM , Rating: 2

RE: who watches that ?
By plinkplonk on 8/3/2008 8:12:00 AM , Rating: 1
try deleting episodes after you've watched em maybe, then you definitely got more room for porn!

RE: who watches that ?
By JonnyDough on 8/4/08, Rating: 0
RE: who watches that ?
By FITCamaro on 8/4/2008 8:44:50 AM , Rating: 2
Whats wrong with making some home movies with the wife? ;)

RE: who watches that ?
By Smartless on 8/4/2008 2:52:14 PM , Rating: 4

RE: who watches that ?
By Spuke on 8/7/2008 5:18:01 PM , Rating: 3
Only by accident.

RE: who watches that ?
By DASQ on 8/5/2008 2:51:51 PM , Rating: 2
I've got two 750GB's almost filled to the brim with anime, ironically.

But I don't fill them with crap like Blegggcch, Nahootah, or that OnePie's that I see everywhere these days.

RE: who watches that ?
By Spuke on 8/7/2008 5:19:07 PM , Rating: 2
or that OnePie's that I see everywhere these days.
I've got a lot of HairPie too.

RE: who watches that ?
By Captain Orgazmo on 8/2/2008 4:03:53 PM , Rating: 2
Try downloading several seasons of several different TV shows in HD, and see how quick your hard drives fill. Not to mention the HD movies, and games with 15GB+ installs.

RE: who watches that ?
By idconstruct on 8/2/2008 7:09:07 PM , Rating: 2
While I agree with the intention of your post (I have 2TB of space of which I have about 100gb left) ... I have never downloaded or installed a game with anywhere close to a 15gb install... PC games are rarely bigger than a dual layer dvd

RE: who watches that ?
By caqde on 8/3/2008 2:14:19 AM , Rating: 2
Supreme Commander is 15GB on my HD with it's expansion Forged Alliance. Although I don't know how this compares to those that play The Sims 2 and have all the expansions....

RE: who watches that ?
By FITCamaro on 8/4/2008 8:45:35 AM , Rating: 2
Age of Conan is over 20GB on my hard drive.

RE: who watches that ?
By AlmostExAMD on 8/3/2008 9:44:00 AM , Rating: 1
U be surprised who watches what even amongst the elite of society, Even these so called religous types can not deny a natural urge, If they cant get it in the flesh then they watch it instead!
I won't even mention what happens to those that deprave themselves, Ahem Catholic priests ahem ring a bell?

Nothing wrong with porn as long as it don't involve minors or animals and all film cast consent to the act, U might want to ask wives/girlfriends about their sex lives with their guys porn habit,I bet u find they r more than satisfied in the bedroom! :)
And yes 1tb hdd's are for porn,lol!

RE: who watches that ?
By FITCamaro on 8/4/2008 8:47:02 AM , Rating: 3
I've got no porn on my computer and I've got well over 1TB worth of video.

Who needs to download it and waste my hard drive space when its sitting on the web somewhere and I can stream it.

RE: who watches that ?
By PWNettle on 8/5/2008 5:26:57 PM , Rating: 2
There's nothing wrong with porn, especially for most of you who have zero chance of ever interacting sexually with another human. what else do you have? :P

However, it is wrong to steal, so, play nice and pay for your porn.

RE: who watches that ?
By ZootyGray on 8/7/2008 10:02:04 PM , Rating: 2
So for $5 x a million users mr.tuftalk makes 5 million and now he gets to threaten and invade privacy or is it just terrorist talk. Imagine binladin talking like this. And pigs controlling the internet.

Ever heard of 'porn creep' where your only hope of performance is the 4hr erection syndrome? What's wrong with this pix?

You think my girlfriend wants to support this guy and his lawyers?

And slobbering your superior lack of respect for yourself or others doesn't quite allow me freedom of choice for myself - but the real driving force is your insecurity about yourself. And your required denial will not allow you to realize any of what I say as being a healthy personal choice. So save your dying breath and watch more sadness.

Hey, been there done that. It didn't make me feel good. After a while, porn starts to watch you. Good luck, and I hope you can leave when you need to. If not, stroke it for someone else - like this loud assed ego maniacal bozo dolt.

Hey bozo - you got the money - buy a life. Better still, buy a record co and increase your popularity in the greaseball world. I have no use for you or your legal enforcement mentality - how sicker can you be is inside your own painful head - live with you all by your pathetic lonesome. nice world you got there. wanna demand respect for law with your sad biz problem.


RE: who watches that ?
By Clauzii on 8/3/2008 11:24:39 AM , Rating: 3
As someone said earlier this week here on DT: If one needs 1.5 TB of Porn, something is seriously wrong.

RE: who watches that ?
By CascadingDarkness on 8/7/2008 2:30:40 PM , Rating: 2
You my friend are missing out on the wonderful world of HD. No more graining videos.

RE: who watches that ?
By Spuke on 8/7/2008 5:21:08 PM , Rating: 2
You my friend are missing out on the wonderful world of HD. No more graining videos.
You can even see the zits now!

By CascadingDarkness on 8/8/2008 3:51:51 PM , Rating: 2
If that's what your into, good for you...

RE: who watches that ?
By Clauzii on 8/6/2008 8:15:20 AM , Rating: 2
Probably not:

"We don't give a f... about planes, cars, or rappers....just money."

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