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Brandon Hill (Blog) - March 14, 2006 4:19 PM
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Sony's next gen console gets delayed six months

The Japanese newspaper Nihon Keizai Shimbun has reported that Sony will delay the launch of PlayStation 3 until November of 2006. The North American launch date is still up in the air.

According to the report, issues surrounding copy protection for Blu-ray discs is the reason for the delay. If the reports are true (given the source, they probably are), Sony could miss the key holiday rush in the United States. Official word from Sony is expected tomorrow.


Rumors have been circulating about Asustek Computer securing orders for the Sony PlayStation 3 next-generation console and PlayStation Portable (PSP) game console.  Both Asustek and Sony have fervently denied the several rumors that Asustek has secured large orders for "mass shipments" by Christmas 2006.  It is possible that this could be another sign that the rumored delay is, indeed, true.

Somewhere in Redmond, Bill Gates is grinning from ear to ear.

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credible news source or kids site?
By Homerboy on 3/14/06, Rating: 0
By Exodus220 on 3/14/2006 5:36:02 PM , Rating: 2
Isn't it kind of cute, don't you think he is a cute older man!?!


RE: credible news source or kids site?
By Lifted on 3/14/2006 5:58:10 PM , Rating: 1
DailyTech is not CNN, that's for sure. If you haven't figured that out by now...

Credible? Since a large amount of tech news are rumors, a lot of what's posted won't be very credible. That's the nature of the online tech news business. But I think it's pretty clear when something is rumor rather than fact.

This site is run by young people who don't appear to have backgrounds in journalism, but "kids site" is a stretch. They are clearly trying to capitalize on the Slashdot, Regsiter, Inquirer style of news delivery. The content and quality of writing is not there yet, but they sure have enough spelling and grammatical errors to fit right in.


RE: credible news source or kids site?
By Homerboy on 3/14/06, Rating: 0
RE: credible news source or kids site?
By Rage187 on 3/14/2006 6:09:27 PM , Rating: 2
Their titles have been questionable lately.


RE: credible news source or kids site?
By Cygni on 3/14/2006 9:41:42 PM , Rating: 2
Then dont f'ing read them. I hate all the bitching in these comments at DailyTech and AnandTech. These are free tech info sites for enthusiasts. If you have a problem with the quality, leave. And despite what some people like to say as they bitch about the good ol days, AnandTech (and DailyTech by extension) have NEVER been more thourough and complete.


RE: credible news source or kids site?
By Tebor0 on 3/15/2006 9:48:23 AM , Rating: 2
Readers keep this site alive. The above reader and myself seem to be a growing group of people dissatisfied with this site's reporting. I've voiced my complaints before and I probably will again. If Dailytech is not going to take these complaints (civil or not) as constructive criticism myself and others I'm sure will soon find other sites to visit.

I disagree completely. I realize there are growing pains when starting a new site but Dailytech has not reached he same quality as Anandtech by any means and to not see the difference is surprising.


RE: credible news source or kids site?
By masher2 (blog) on 3/15/2006 9:54:41 AM , Rating: 3
> "The above reader and myself seem to be a growing group of people dissatisfied with this site's reporting"

Anyone who takes the time to actually post a complaint in the forums can't be too dissatisfied over the site. I'd say the motivation is driven more by pedantism than dissatisfaction.


RE: credible news source or kids site?
By Tebor0 on 3/15/2006 12:37:20 PM , Rating: 2
We all know how difficult it can be to make a 30 second post. *insert rolleyes face here*

My complaints have been made in hopes that this site changes. 'Pedantism' is part of it but reading something that looks like a school project goes a long way in devaluing the source in my opinion.

I have enjoying being a visitor to Anandetech for years but It's only a matter of time before I get fed up and start visiting another site. I'm certain I'm not alone in this.


RE: credible news source or kids site?
By masher2 (blog) on 3/15/2006 12:51:07 PM , Rating: 2
> "We all know how difficult it can be to make a 30 second post."

No one except you used the word difficult. If you're sticking around long enough to read news articles and post to the forums, you can't be too dissatisfied. If I'm truly fed up with a site, I just go elsewhere...I don't spend time critiquing their faults.

> "My complaints have been made in hopes that this site changes."

And thus, your desire for change inherently contains the assumption of preexisting value. There are a million sites I DON'T read on the Internet...I could care less if they change or not.

More to the point, if a visitor posts a valid objection to a story, an editor here picks it up and makes the correction...usually within a few minutes. Contrast that with, say, CBS, represented fraudulent documents as valid for several weeks, ignoring the objections of millions of people who clearly saw otherwise.

I'll take a typo here and there over CBS's approach any day of the week.





RE: credible news source or kids site?
By Tebor0 on 3/15/2006 1:26:46 PM , Rating: 2
So tell me what word I should have used instead of 'difficult' then if you going to come after me with comments like this:

>"If you're sticking around long enough to read news articles and post to the forums, you can't be too dissatisfied"

or

>"Anyone who takes the time to actually post a complaint in the forums can't be too dissatisfied over the site. I'd say the motivation is driven more by [pedantism] than dissatisfaction.

I gather your implying that you think I'm upset enough not to waste my time posting.
Now... if we look at my comment again

>"We all know how difficult it can be to make a 30 second post"

Can you understand how this could mean that even though I'm not happy with the reporting the 30 seconds it takes to complain really isn't that big of a deal?

Yes? No?




..

I don't read a million sites on the internet. I read 3. One of them being Anandtech/Dailytech. I have read this site for years. I wish to continue visiting this site but I will not be visiting this site for much longer if the quality of the articles does not improve.
I'm happy to see a correction when it's made. Is it too much to ask that someone reads something over.. or even uses a spell check(!!) before posting the article in the first place?
I don't think so.


RE: credible news source or kids site?
By masher2 (blog) on 3/15/2006 3:18:55 PM , Rating: 2
> "...even though I'm not happy with the reporting the 30 seconds it takes to complain really isn't that big of a deal?"

Given you've made several posts on the subject already, a couple of which were fairly lengthy, I think its a safe bet that "30 seconds" isn't wholly accurate. :p

Surely this site could do a better job correcting spelling errors. But I'm confident a myriad of syntatic and grammatical errors would still exist-- I can find several daily even in the New York Times. So where do we draw the line?

Personally, I'd rather focus on the content of the stories, and the editorial selection thereof. I've posted several times correcting factual errors...all were addresses immediately.

If you want to obsess on spelling and punctuation instead, by all means, feel free. But publicly and repeatedly commenting on it is, as I've already said, probably driven more by pedantism than a desire to effect change. :)


By masher2 (blog) on 3/15/2006 3:19:56 PM , Rating: 2
> "...all were addresses immediately."

Speaking of spelling errors. An edit function...my life for an edit function.


By Tebor0 on 3/15/2006 4:34:39 PM , Rating: 2
>>"Given you've made several posts on the subject already, a couple of which were fairly lengthy, I think its a safe bet that "30 seconds" isn't wholly accurate. :p "

Obviously if we're going to take into account this entire discussion and not just my original post. I assure you my original post did not take any length of time ..for arguments sake and because I didn't have a stop-watch present we'll say it could have taken a full minute... but my point remains. (now I'm just returning for this discussion.. so I guess Dailytech is keeping me a visitor that way. :P)

I agree with you in saying that the content is more important but if people are faced with what in my opinion qualifies as 'high school project' quality then that content is going to be missed.

Take two articles with equal content.
1)One is done professionally with correct spelling and not using slang.

2)The other has spelling mistakes with slang. M$ instead of Microsoft for example. (this has been included in previous articles.)


Now I'm going to assume that for a reader to continue to visit a site he/she has to both trust the content and like the way this content is presented.
As a reader which one are you going to believe more?
As a site owner which one would you rather show to your clients when you consider your revenue is based on hits.

At least speaking for myself. #1


If we want to go even further with this issue..
Why isn't a spell check done? Am I missing something or is it just as simple as someone being lazy? If I can't count on the basics being done can I really count on the article?

Another thing to note is that I am not the only one making these type of comments. (maybe the most vocal recently)


By Eris23007 on 3/15/2006 6:13:56 PM , Rating: 2

If you're going to argue over semantics, grammar, etc., at least get it straight yourself. The word you were searching for is "pedantry".

Technically pedantism is a word but it's quite obsolete.


RE: credible news source or kids site?
By Z3RoC00L on 3/15/2006 10:00:04 AM , Rating: 3
Ok... so you're angry about typo's?

Hell News papers are published with typo's all of the time. Maybe you're just angry that this news seems to be aimed at the Sony PS3... I'm assuming you're a fanboy.


RE: credible news source or kids site?
By Tebor0 on 3/15/2006 12:47:32 PM , Rating: 2
I'll reply to this flame since it is a reply to my post. (and it's a little slow at work. :P)

Ok, so I'm a fanboy because I complained about the quality of the reporting on this site?

So using the same intellect and detective work as you that must mean...
You must be l33t based on your nick.. or should I say cool? What else.. hmm.. You're an Xbox fanboy because you'd said nothing negative about sony.. but you're posting a comment on a sony article. Oh.. I do know you read newspapers! (or is this too much because I'm basing this on something you actually said?)
Should I go further and call you a "noob" or to tell you to grow up? Let me know.


By Lifted on 3/15/2006 1:00:59 PM , Rating: 2
Haha. Z3RoPwN3d.


RE: credible news source or kids site?
By jackmaddy on 3/15/2006 11:18:55 AM , Rating: 2
Your a dumb A$$ and wrong with your statements..seems to me that DailyTech nailed this story!


By Lifted on 3/15/2006 1:27:09 PM , Rating: 2
I was defending DailyTech, "maddy." Nice reading comprehension.


Variety
By kattanna on 3/14/2006 4:38:59 PM , Rating: 2
variety had an interview with the CEO that was posted march 5th with him saying that the PS3 willnt be out until the holidays

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117939258?catego...





RE: Variety
By theubergeek on 3/14/2006 4:47:52 PM , Rating: 2
The holidays traditionally start in November with Thanksgiving.


RE: Variety
By bunnyfubbles on 3/15/2006 1:42:11 AM , Rating: 2
Good luck getting one under $500 before 2007.


RE: Variety
By PreOmegaZero on 3/14/2006 8:04:45 PM , Rating: 2
That article had a chimp doing research and fact checking.

According to the Variety article: "One strange twist in the battle is that Toshiba is working with Sony and IMB to produce the cell chip that's the foundation of Blu-ray"

...and you guys are knocking DailyTech on it's rumors? :)


RE: Variety
By masher2 (blog) on 3/15/2006 9:49:37 AM , Rating: 2
> "One strange twist in the battle is that Toshiba is working with Sony and IMB to produce the cell chip that's the foundation of Blu-ray"

Well, considering Cell is the foundation of the PS3, and the PS3 is going to be the make-or-break factor for Blu-Ray, the statement can be considered somewhat correct.


RE: Variety
By Clauzii on 3/15/2006 9:58:12 PM , Rating: 2
IMB - who´s dat??? And no - neither Cell nor BluRay depends on each other. Allthough the PS3 will be a nice platform to introduce BluRay, it´s not nescesarry. SONY and all BluRay "members" could just introduce BluRay HD recorders and PC drives anyway - I mean - why not?


marketing tactics
By slider169 on 3/14/2006 7:14:10 PM , Rating: 2
Sony just want to created a hype for the holiday shopping season.




RE: marketing tactics
By spwrozek on 3/14/2006 8:18:11 PM , Rating: 2
I don't see that as being the case. The longer Sony waits the more X-box 360's will sell. Even if the price doesn't drop much or at all people will start thinking, 'I would really like to Madden 06 with awesome graphics', and perhaps buy the 360 instead of continually waiting for the PS3. Sony is only hurting themselves.


RE: marketing tactics
By Exodus220 on 3/14/2006 9:07:12 PM , Rating: 2
I really don't see Sony hurting themselves, if anything this will allow them to deliver a better/more reliable console that will hopefully have a solid library available at launch. Remember that they still have their PS2 and it is still going strong despite being the oldest system out there. I still think it says a lot about Microsoft when they released a new console only 4 years after their first attempt. Yet Sony still keeps chugging along with their sleek little black box and it does not rely on Halo to sell.

Sony will do just fine but they may have their work cut out for them with the PS3, although I still don't think that the XBOX360 is as great as everyone seems to think it will be. So what if it is the only platform out there right now, it is still just another XBOX and until Halo arrives for the system I don't see it selling as well as it could.


RE: marketing tactics
By Lakku on 3/14/2006 10:49:16 PM , Rating: 2
Halo isn't a great game, and the 360 SHOULD sell because of its fantastic media capabilities and the ability to play next-gen games as well. Media extenders are 2 to 300 on their own. Add on the great Live service, which it's been written here may include DirecTV HD content soon, use a HTPC with media center to record TV and you can stream movies, music, pics etc. to any TV with a 360. This may not seem great, but it's been pretty awesome for me to have access to the same TV show on any device I own from anywhere I want to view it. Plus, it doesn't rely on Sony propritary crap. Sony has a lot to do to catch up and it will NOT be better or more reliable because of the delay, two things you will probably never see mentioned (quality and reliable) in anything Sony below 5 thousand dollars (not that MS is much better). Also, for those thinking it's going to have more power, keep dreaming. From the specs, it won't have any more power then the 360 so by the time we see PS3, we have second generation 360 games. It says a lot, yes, that MS knew they needed something new to compete and the best way to do so is make a great console and release it early, undercutting themself. Don't be suprised if we see the 360 drop in price when PS3 launches, as MS said a long time ago it wanted to drop the price of the 360 once a year throughout its life.


not surprised!
By Mitul89 on 3/14/2006 10:21:46 PM , Rating: 2
This is not shocking because it obvious that sony was lying, they just wanted to keep the consumers from not buying Xbox360. Thats why they said that they would launch PS3 in March... There was a article which stated that sony was having major issue with the hardware working properly. I dont remember the specific part. SO its not surprised that they will now delay the system untill november where it will face Revolution. I have learned that never ever believe sony untill you see the final product. I just hate sony because they steal/copy so many features thats its just getting annoying.




RE: not surprised!
By sxr7171 on 3/15/2006 1:34:08 AM , Rating: 2
This was the same thing those bastards did with Dreamcast. Much more people would/should have bought a Dreamcast.


RE: not surprised!
By AnaxagorasZeres on 3/15/2006 7:57:09 AM , Rating: 2
Yup. They didn't even have to release a product to kill the Dreamcast. They just kicked up a hypestorm.

Pity, too. The Dreamcast was a much better all-around system (Aside from the lack of analog controllers, if I remember correctly).


RE: not surprised!
By Clauzii on 3/15/2006 11:09:39 PM , Rating: 2
Wasn´t that the reason why it didn´t?


More appropriate story would be...
By segagenesis on 3/14/2006 8:37:44 PM , Rating: 2
"We are delaying the console realizing that we would have to sell it at a higher price than our competition. Also it would have been pretty embarrasing also to repeat the mistakes of 3D0 and LaserActive"

Despite the fact that the PS2 has been around for almost 6 years now, has been moddable to copy games and yet Sony is still the console leader. Yeah, copy protection is the real issue and not the fact its going to cost way too damn much for you to make and you cant afford a $500 loss per console.




By Exodus220 on 3/14/2006 9:07:51 PM , Rating: 2
YOu will have to help me out on the LaserActive, I can't say I have ever heard of that one.


O RLY?
By BioRebel on 3/15/2006 12:16:14 AM , Rating: 2
If it's asus then prepare to send your PS3 back every few months when the chipset fan fails.




RE: O RLY?
By ronster on 3/15/2006 6:44:19 AM , Rating: 2
I can't believe they think they can gear up for a simultaneous worldwide launch in November either. For both the PS/PS2 then supply was way behind demand even doing the staggered regional launches.

Still, those who have pre-orders that come good will be making very big bucks on eBay from the 'must have one now/for Xmas' brigade with more money than sense.


Good fro MS bad for...
By Marlin1975 on 3/14/2006 4:32:41 PM , Rating: 2
Good fro MS but bad for those waiting for MS to drop the price of the 360. Competition is good and this will just give MS reason to eave the price of not only the console but games as they are for a while longer.

Blu-Ray FTL
HD-DVD FTW

Oh and perfect picture for this piece. :)




Typo
By TomZ on 3/14/2006 5:23:47 PM , Rating: 2
Note typo in first sentence - "Japanese newspaper" repeated.




haha
By Phantronius on 3/14/2006 5:25:20 PM , Rating: 1
In Soviet Russia, PS3 delays you!!




RE: haha
By theubergeek on 3/14/2006 5:32:41 PM , Rating: 1
Touchdown!


On track, it sounds to me :)
By Clauzii on 3/18/2006 12:18:36 AM , Rating: 2
Originally it was to be released in Japan in Spring/Summer 2006, and the US in early 2007.

Now they coordinate and delay it in Japan but moves it FORWARD in the US? WTF is to complain about???




GT5
By spindoc on 3/14/2006 5:05:23 PM , Rating: 1
I can wait as long as GT5 kicks ass when it comes out.




Wait...
By spindoc on 3/14/2006 5:07:21 PM , Rating: 1
I want to change my answer to Booooo-urns.




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