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Intel processor revenue share drops less than 1% as AMD's share grows by more than 2%

AMD and Intel by far the two largest processor firms around and Intel is many times larger than AMD. Intel holds a huge percentage of the global processor market, while AMD is a distant second in both revenue and marketshare.

Research firm iSuppli released its global statistics for the processor market. According to iSuppli, Intel holds a massive 79.7% of the world’s processor revenues leaving AMD with 10.9% of the global processor revenue.

When the revenue numbers are compared to Q1 2007, Intel’s revenue share in the processor market has dropped by 0.7%. At the same time AMD has been able to grow its share of the processor market revenue by 2.2%. According to iSuppli, AMD’s gain is a sign that consumers are responding better to AMD products.

ISuppli estimates that about half of AMD’s growth in revenue market share came at the expense of Intel and that the remainder came at the expense of the smaller processor makers. ISuppli also says that average selling prices from both Intel and AMD didn’t decrease in the first quarter of 2008 signaling that price wars between Intel and AMD have stopped.

Between Intel and AMD the two firms hold 92.7% of the total microprocessor market worldwide estimated to be worth about $286.5 billion in 2008. Despite the weakened U.S. economy, computer sales are still going strong.

ISuppli reported recently that PC shipments in Q1 2008 increased by 12.1% globally.



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RE: Price/Performance
By FaceMaster on 7/2/2008 7:54:02 PM , Rating: 2
Okay then... power consumption.

COME ON, Pirks... you're a die-hard fan of AMD if you claim that points such as overclocking don't matter. Of course they do. The amd 6000 isn't likely to be overclocked much more (I'm expecting you to find a stupidly large water/liquid hydrogen solution to prove me wrong), while the Intel ones have masses of head room.


RE: Price/Performance
By Pirks on 7/2/2008 8:06:58 PM , Rating: 1
Even in power consumption AMD trumps Intel. Where are my 45W 2.5 GHz dualcore CPUs from Intel, huh? Why Intel draws 20 Watts more than 45W AMD X2, huh? You tell me, fanboy :-)


RE: Price/Performance
By zsdersw on 7/2/2008 8:56:32 PM , Rating: 2
Perhaps you've never heard of Wolfdale.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/intel...


RE: Price/Performance
By Pirks on 7/2/2008 9:11:33 PM , Rating: 2
Perhaps you never heard of Wolfdale's power rating. Read up on it, noob :) Maybe you'll understand what the 45W TDP of Athlon X2 is about.


RE: Price/Performance
By zsdersw on 7/2/2008 9:14:07 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, I have. Maybe you didn't click the link in my post.


RE: Price/Performance
By Pirks on 7/2/2008 9:26:13 PM , Rating: 2
You have what? Comparison between __125W TDP__ Athlon X2 and 65W TDP Core 2 Duo?

Are you AFRAID to show me comparison between __45W TDP__ Athlon X2 and LGA775 Wolfdale, huh? :)))

Intel lovers never can show proper comparison graphs, 'cause their beloved Intel suddenly looks not so tough when they try comparing apples to apples :P


RE: Price/Performance
By zsdersw on 7/2/2008 9:31:57 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, no.. I wasn't intending to compare to any AMD chip with that link.. merely to point out how much (or little) power the Wolfdale chips were drawing.


RE: Price/Performance
By Pirks on 7/2/2008 9:45:54 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
to point out how much (or little) power the Wolfdale chips were drawing
What's the point of that if Athlon X2 draws even less power than Wolfdale? :)


RE: Price/Performance
By zsdersw on 7/2/2008 9:53:22 PM , Rating: 2
You first wanted to see 45W Intel dual-core CPUs.. so I showed you proof of Intel dual-core CPUs drawing less than 45W. In later posts you added "TDP", which is entirely different from *actual* power consumption.

I can show you a truly remarkable CPU that draws 0W.. it's the CPU in my computer when the computer is unplugged. Irrelevant, you say? Of course, but that's not the point.

The point is that power consumption, as a measurement taken alone, is useless. What truly matters is how much performance you get out of each watt the CPU consumes. In that measurement, it's hard to beat the Wolfdale across *all* applications, not just games.


RE: Price/Performance
By Pirks on 7/2/2008 10:06:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
it's hard to beat the Wolfdale
Now this is a statement that I expect to be supported by something more solid than just your words. I can say a lot of things too, but gimme hard numbers.

Where's the compariosn of performance per watt between Wolfdale and 45W X2? Where are these live numbers, huh? Can't see them!

If you can't provide numbers as a proof - then why post here? I know you like Wolfdale more than Athlon X2, so your posts add nothing concrete.

You like this more, I like that more, you have no numbers to prove your point, so what? End of discussion, right?


RE: Price/Performance
By zsdersw on 7/2/2008 10:51:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Now this is a statement that I expect to be supported by something more solid than just your words. I can say a lot of things too, but gimme hard numbers. Where's the compariosn of performance per watt between Wolfdale and 45W X2? Where are these live numbers, huh? Can't see them!


Such comparisons haven't been made yet, but let's consider the following:

- The X2 4850e is Brisbane.. so its performance (at any power draw) is going to be the same.

- Brisbane.. at 2.5GHz.. is no match performance-wise for the Conroe E6600 (2.4GHz), as documented here: http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_athlon_64_...

- The power consumption for Wolfdale (E8500) is 33.4W at full load, as outlined in the xbitlabs link earlier.

- Let's say the 4850e, with it's 45W TDP, actually uses somewhere around 22W at full load.

- The E8500 performs considerably faster than the E6600, let's average it at about 15%. Add the advantage of the E6600 over Brisbane at 2.5GHz of, on average, 15%, and you have a total of 30% faster than the 4850e.

- Performance-per-watt of Wolfdale vs 4850e is roughly as follows: approximately 30% faster performance for approximately 30% more power, which is hardly the clearcut win you were hoping for.


RE: Price/Performance
By zsdersw on 7/2/2008 9:22:04 PM , Rating: 2
Since the ratings Intel and AMD assign are calculated differently, you have to go beyond the specified ratings and acquire actual numbers on how much power is being consumed and how much heat dissipated in order to draw any useful conclusions.


RE: Price/Performance
By Pirks on 7/2/2008 9:35:47 PM , Rating: 1
So why don't you provide me with those actual numbers, huh? ;-) I just know from the marketing numbers that Athlon X2 has 45W and Wolfdale has 65W ratings. If you can't provide numbers that prove me wrong - why did you start posting here in the first place?


RE: Price/Performance
By zsdersw on 7/2/2008 9:46:08 PM , Rating: 2
I already posted numbers of Wolfdale power consumption.. the xbitlabs link a couple posts up.


RE: Price/Performance
By Pirks on 7/2/2008 9:58:53 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I already posted numbers of Wolfdale power consumption
What's the point in that if Athlon X2 consumes even less power than Wolfdale?


RE: Price/Performance
By zsdersw on 7/2/2008 10:04:11 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
What's the point in that if Athlon X2 consumes even less power than Wolfdale?


You first wanted to see 45W Intel dual-core CPUs.. so I showed you proof of Intel dual-core CPUs drawing less than 45W. In later posts you added "TDP", which is entirely different from *actual* power consumption.

I can show you a truly remarkable CPU that draws 0W.. it's the CPU in my computer when the computer is unplugged. Irrelevant, you say? Of course, but that's not the point.

The point is that power consumption, as a measurement taken alone, is useless. What truly matters is how much performance you get out of each watt the CPU consumes. In that measurement, it's hard to beat the Wolfdale across *all* applications, not just games.


RE: Price/Performance
By Pirks on 7/2/2008 10:22:27 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
What truly matters is how much performance you get out of each watt the CPU consumes. In that measurement, it's hard to beat the Wolfdale across *all* applications, not just games.
Like I already answered above, I expect this statement to be supported by numbers. Sorry, I don't trust words and statements without numbers to prove them.


RE: Price/Performance
By bruce24 on 7/3/2008 12:42:24 AM , Rating: 2
Pirks,

Check out this link for some power consumption numbers.

http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/AMD_Phenom_X4_...


RE: Price/Performance
By FaceMaster on 7/2/2008 9:08:52 PM , Rating: 2
I can't help it! I just HAVE to argue when I know that somebody's WRONG. (You, not me)

Shame I can't find any reviews of the Intel Pentium E2200, which costs just $80 at newegg and can easily be overclocked to 3 Ghz... can anybody help me to find a review?

Strangely all of the reviews of the Intel Core 2 Duo 4xxx series have disappeared as well. Still, lets find a 6300 review.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?...

Ouch. Is the AMD FX 62 about the same as the AMD X2 6000 in terms of performance?

The ball is in your court.


RE: Price/Performance
By Pirks on 7/2/2008 9:41:30 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
The ball is in your court
You showed me how 6300 got owned by cheapo X2 4600, and I don't care about OC because most people don't OC. Satisfied?


RE: Price/Performance
By FaceMaster on 7/3/2008 6:12:38 AM , Rating: 2
LOL somebody forgot to look at the red bars which show the 6300 being overclocked, beating every AMD processor out there.


RE: Price/Performance
By FaceMaster on 7/2/2008 9:13:30 PM , Rating: 2
Can you go find me some proof of that please?


RE: Price/Performance
By Pirks on 7/2/2008 9:22:36 PM , Rating: 2
My proof is called AMD Athlon X2 4850e 2.5 GHz 45W TDP

Now where can I find 45W TDP LGA775 C2D chip? :-P :)))


RE: Price/Performance
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