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ATI Radeon HD 4870 Edition @ Hot Hardware
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ha ha
By Lightning III on 6/25/2008 9:24:44 AM , Rating: 2
Now ATI layeth the smackdown unto Nvidia it will only get worse when the 450 dollar 4870X-2 ripps the undisputed performance crown from thair heads in a couple of months,

and without a chipset license for the upcoming intergrated memory controller from intel we see the tide start to recede for Nvidia time to sell them short.

Looks like the can of whoop ass was a fart in the wind.




RE: ha ha
By Regs on 6/25/2008 9:47:01 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, it actually sheds a little faith on the Shanghai. At least for me. A little execution goes a long way in terms of bringing back some investor confidence.


RE: ha ha
By Aloonatic on 6/25/2008 9:51:46 AM , Rating: 2
How long until a die-shrunk GT2xx comes out and they can put 2 of those on a card and perhaps bring out a (not even sure if this is possible, may need more than a little work to achieve) GDDR5 version?

Nvidia still have the single card performance leader after all, lets not get too excited? :-s

I never quite understand why people get so wound up over one company "laying the snacks down" and "canning someone's whooped bottom" so much.

The best thing that could happen is that we have 2 companies producing cards that are pretty close in performance, driving down prices and increasing performance by leaps and bounds every generation, not a K.O. surely?


RE: ha ha
By Regs on 6/25/2008 10:01:40 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Nvidia still have the single card performance leader after all, lets not get too excited? :-s


I can likely make you the festest GPU in the world if you have me 5 or so million dollars.

But in the mean time I will enjoy playing on a 4850 for 200 dollars while Nvidia struggles to figure out how to sell something for 100-200 dollars more than it's worth.


RE: ha ha
By Aloonatic on 6/25/2008 10:54:16 AM , Rating: 2
You'd probably need a bit more than a few million dollars to make an industry leading card, but if you can, there's some people at Intel who would love to hear from you I'm sure :D

I didn't say that you (or anyone else for that matter, see my earlier post re: CF performance & pricing) shouldn't buy a 4850? :-s

I was merely pointing out that it's not over for Nvidia as many of the more easily excitable posters seem to think it is.


RE: ha ha
By Regs on 6/25/2008 1:30:43 PM , Rating: 2
Of course it's not over. Though I plan to buy this card this quarter, not the next.


RE: ha ha
By Regs on 6/25/2008 1:32:09 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
You'd probably need a bit more than a few million dollars to make an industry leading card, but if you can, there's some people at Intel who would love to hear from you I'm sure :D


I didn't say make a million, but only one. That is what you're trying to get at right? Who can make the fastest card? I really don't care at my age. I grew out of that awhile ago.


RE: ha ha
By Jedi2155 on 7/2/2008 3:22:04 AM , Rating: 2
The G80 R&D costs were quoted to be somewhere around $450 million dollars.

Taping out a GPU die design costs close to a million dollars (not to mention sometimes multiple tape-outs due to design bugs).

So I doubt you can get a single ultimate speed GPU even with $5 million (not that I think its impossible). But maybe if you just paid some people to make make a ton of them in SLI :).


RE: ha ha
By Lightning III on 6/25/2008 2:02:10 PM , Rating: 2
I don't if anybodys working at 22nm yet because it would take that much shrink to put 2 of those behomeths on a single card

but for me it the way it's mean't to be played program because if you can't build a better GPU you can always buy performance and bribe developers too only optimize for your architechture

and there are several games where the 4870 does beat the 350 dollar more expensive 280GTX


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