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Nortel says it wont support WiMAX and aligns with LTE

Clearwire held an investors conference yesterday where it claims that by the year 2017 it will have $17.5 billion in revenue. That is an audacious claim from a business that at this time only serves a limited number of markets.

The projected income Clearwire is touting will come from both voice and data services according to InformationWeek. Clearwire goes on to say in the conference that it expects to have 30.8 million subscribers and that as many as 220 million users will have access to its service within the next nine years. On a short term plan, Clearwire says that by 2009 it will offer WiMAX service to between 60 and 80 million people in America.

Clearwire’s outlook on the WiMAX situation over the coming years is rosy, but the level of success it predicts is far from guaranteed. In fact Sprint and Clearwire are the only mobile service providers in the U.S. banking on WiMAX technology. The other mobile service providers including AT&T and Verizon are banking on Long Term Evolution (LTE) for their next generation 4G networks. reports that Nortel -- a major telecommunications equipment maker -- has opted to not support WiMAX at all. Nortel will instead focus on the more popular 4G wireless technology, which it is betting will be more popular for customers and manufacturers.

Despite the long term outlook for LTE being superior, the most significant advantage of WiMAX is that it is here and will be ready in only a few years. Clearwire’s hope is that it can sign up enough customers in the short term to negate the popularity of LTE among hardware makers and other mobile service providers.

Sprint and Clearwire announced they would combine forces to tackle WiMAX in May 2008.

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RE: Monopoly
By sxr7171 on 6/14/2008 10:00:52 AM , Rating: 1
Wow so narrow minded. Who gives a shit about Verizon? They are 49% owned by Vodaphone anyway. They are only switching to LTE because of Vodaphone. There are carriers around the world that make Verizon look like peanuts in comparison. Verizon isn't driving anything in cellphone technology, in fact no US is doing shit for cellphone technology. All GSM carriers worldwide are moving to LTE because that's the next GSM standard. Verizon picking anything means nothing in the larger scheme of things.

One more thing, just because a cell phone company partnered to bring us WiMax doesn't mean that it is a cellular telephone technology. Sprint's CDMA network will evolve around whatever Qualcomm has in store for them. WiMax is separate from all that. I don't know what part of "third pipe" is so hard for people to understand. Just because cell phones will come with WiMax doesn't make it something associated only with next generation cellular telephony. WiMax will be on laptops, GPS systems, MIDs, UMPCs, basically anything that needs internet. I can have LTE service with AT&T and WiMax with Sprint and use both on the same device if I so choose. I can use that WiMax on a Nokia N810 tablet and on my future WiMax equipped cellphone. Why would I pay for 3G and WiMax? So I can have options on which device to take out for the day. Each technology has its pluses and minuses.

RE: Monopoly
By sxr7171 on 6/14/2008 10:03:53 AM , Rating: 2
I meant "no US company" one could argue that Qualcomm is doing something, but they have fallen so far behind. The only impact of the Verizon choosing GSM (LTE) is that it screwed over Qualcomm. It wouldn't surprise me if Sprint announces a move to LTE also.

RE: Monopoly
By krwhite on 6/15/2008 7:57:48 AM , Rating: 2
I fail to see how a large cellphone company picking a standard means 'nothing'.. Ok, they're doing what others are doing. That's a standard being standardized, is it not?

RE: Monopoly
By krwhite on 6/15/2008 8:00:04 AM , Rating: 2
I'm definitely on WiMAX's side. I would rather use that standard myself. I don't ignore Verizon's power though. Do not underestimate the powers of the emperor.

RE: Monopoly
By sxr7171 on 6/15/2008 11:57:24 AM , Rating: 2
Whatever, there's more to the world than just the US. LTE will do fine with or without Verizon. LTE is the progression technology for every GSM carrier in the world already serving hundreds of millions of customers. Verizon is getting on board because they have to keep up with what everyone else in the world is doing. It's more of question of how Verizon will do without LTE. They'd have to implement whatever Qualcomm has for CDMA networks. It's nice to see the US market getting on board with what everyone else in the world is doing though. As for WiMax it was originally meant for laptops and now other devices will have it. It was never really intended to be a cellular telephony technology. It's more like your cable modem only wireless.

RE: Monopoly
By Ringold on 6/15/2008 12:50:11 PM , Rating: 2
Whatever, there's more to the world than just the US.

China Mobile has more users than America has people, and they're not China's only mobile carrier either. Just providing a supporting point.

RE: Monopoly
By osalcido on 6/14/2008 4:38:21 PM , Rating: 1
Well aside from you, nobodys dumb enough to pay for two services that do the same damn thing

RE: Monopoly
By sxr7171 on 6/14/2008 4:58:04 PM , Rating: 2
It's not dumb and they don't do the same thing. You can use WiMax on anything. It will definitely beat out LTE which won't be here until 2011. You can can sit an use high latency 3G (UMTS) until then. A WiMax connection is always on internet on cell phones, laptops, GPS units, PDAs, cars etc. It allows you to not need a cell phone line (and a SIM card) for each device.

You must be stupid not to recognize that.

RE: Monopoly
By rcsinfo on 6/15/2008 12:02:34 PM , Rating: 2
I wholeheartedly agree that WiMax is more than just a cell carrier technology, especially with Intel's backing. I expect to see native support for WiMax in a lot of upcoming Intel products.

However I would clarify on your post that there is a difference between Verizon wireless and Verizon Communications. According to the Fortune Global 500, Verizon Communications is the biggest telecom in the world, narrowly edging out NTT:

Verizon wireless(Cellco Partnership) is in fact a JV between Vodaphone and Verizon, but it is still the 2nd largest carrier in the US. And if the Alltel acquisition goes through, they will be the biggest.

The only reason I point this out about Verizon, is that I couldn't agree more with your overall assessment of US cell carriers lagging behind on technology. However since Verizon is large enough to affect the US cell market with their decisions, I care about them.

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