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Individuals can receive up to $6,000 under the new grant program, amounting to one big green tax cut for the citizens of San Francisco.  (Source: Elsa Wenzel/CNET)

The current solar power installations in San Francisco are pictured; expect a lot more dots coming soon.  (Source: San Francisco Solar Map)
San Francisco is looking to get off the grid and save money with a vast solar push





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RE: I don't get it
By NicoloPicolo on 6/12/2008 4:46:55 PM , Rating: 0
that's not his point.

nuclear plants are not renewable, you have to shut down old ones for build new ones every 40/50 years.


RE: I don't get it
By Ringold on 6/12/2008 5:52:44 PM , Rating: 4
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nuclear plants are not renewable


News flash: nothing on Earth is fully renewable. That includes the raw materials that go in to solar panels. Earth is a closed loop, unless we start pulling in raw materials from the Moon or asteroids. If you looked outside your comfortable little world you'd notice all the strange, varied markets across the world that are experiencing supply shortages due to solar and wind turbine construction -- wind towers, I've read, are gobbling steel, for example. Those towers will have to be replaced at some point over thousands of years -- and the gods aren't increasing Earth's supply of iron.

If any source that can last longer than recorded human history isn't enough for you, then its quite obvious you aren't looking for a real solution.


RE: I don't get it
By Spuke on 6/12/2008 5:54:33 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
then its quite obvious you aren't looking for a real solution.
His "real solution" isn't on the TV so it can't be right or desirable.


RE: I don't get it
By DASQ on 6/12/2008 10:10:36 PM , Rating: 2
BAAAWWWLLL SOLAR POWER ISN'T RENEWABLE, THE STARS EXPLODE EVERY FEW BILLION YEARS AND THE UNIVERSE COLLAPSES.

Are you even reading what you post? Nothing is built to last forever, everything must be replaced eventually. Nuclear plants are one of the hardier ones. Wind turbines last for.. what... 30 years?


RE: I don't get it
By Spuke on 6/13/2008 12:37:06 PM , Rating: 2
It's not so much the turbines but the blades that require infrequent replacement. Usually from lightning strikes. Repairs are hella expensive too. Around $5k.


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