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BIOS issues and other concerns are addressed

Anandtech was able to score a second session with Intel's Conroe and an overclocked AMD FX-60. Some concerns and issues were raised concerning the first test, so Anand addresses them with this update.

The performance picture with regards to Conroe hasn’t really changed all that much - on average we’re still seeing a bit over a 20% increase in performance over an overclocked Athlon 64 FX-60.  While it’s worth noting that these results should be taken with a grain of salt, we really were not able to determine any cause for suspicion based on Intel’s setups.  The machines were as clean as they could get, with the BIOS oversight having no tangible impact on most performance.

After this second round of tests, there doesn't appear to be anything malicious or underhanded going on Intel's part. The BIOS had little to no effect on performance and the Conroe still comes out on top. Now all we have to do is wait for AM2 Athlons.


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Interesting observations
By zsdersw on 3/10/2006 7:27:08 AM , Rating: 2
I've been reading the comment sections of all the DailyTech articles on Conroe lately and what struck me as being the most prevalent were two things:

- People saying that we shouldn't count AMD out.

- People saying that AMD's offerings are going to be better when Conroe is available.

The funny thing, though, is that if the situations were reversed.. and it was AMD who had demonstrated a very strong future new product.. I highly doubt there'd be as many people saying that we shouldn't count Intel out, nor would there be as many people saying that Intel's offerings are going to be better when AMD's new stuff is released. Double standards? Table for 100+.

The fact of the matter is that while AMD's offerings will be better when Conroe ships (AM2, DDR2, etc.) so will Conroe. That's something I've seen very little mention of in the comment sections of these stories here.

As for Conroe itself, I'm not particularly moved one way or another. Just like I expect with AMD, I expect a new architecture to outperform existing architectures. To me, this is just Intel meeting expectations. Have they exceeded expectations? We'll see when it ships.




RE: Interesting observations
By JackPack on 3/10/2006 5:15:40 PM , Rating: 2
What else can you expect from AMD apologists?

I especially love the one where they claim when 65nm AMD products ship in 1H'07, Intel will take the backseat again. Of course, they fail to mention Intel's 2H'07 45nm schedule.

Sometimes, they even claim 4 GHz K8 will be possible on 65nm, even though thus far 130nm->90nm has only brought AMD 400 MHz (FX-55->Opteron 256).


RE: Interesting observations
By JumpingJack on 3/11/2006 4:38:07 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The funny thing, though, is that if the situations were reversed.. and it was AMD who had demonstrated a very strong future new product.. I highly doubt there'd be as many people saying that we shouldn't count Intel out, nor would there be as many people saying that Intel's offerings are going to be better when AMD's new stuff is released. Double standards? Table for 100+.


No not really, I liken it to "King of the Hill" effect, or the "Underdog Syndrome". It is natural to work hard to bring down number one. You see this everywhere, people live by MacOs why, well mostly because it is a better OS but also alot of Mac devotion is a despise of MS. How about more globally, USA is number one in just about everything, economy especially, we are bitterly despise, why? Well GWB is a very good part of that, but we were never really liked even during WHC. Look at Walmart, etc. etc. etc. the list is endless The human psyche loves an underdog, in some finite percentages people will latch on and even die with that underdog :) ....


RE: Interesting observations
By zsdersw on 3/11/2006 7:10:35 AM , Rating: 2
Indeed. Nothing I talked about was beyond my comprehension.. I just thought it was interesting.. and particularly telling of just how ridiculous many of the posters on here are.


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