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BIOS issues and other concerns are addressed

Anandtech was able to score a second session with Intel's Conroe and an overclocked AMD FX-60. Some concerns and issues were raised concerning the first test, so Anand addresses them with this update.

The performance picture with regards to Conroe hasn’t really changed all that much - on average we’re still seeing a bit over a 20% increase in performance over an overclocked Athlon 64 FX-60.  While it’s worth noting that these results should be taken with a grain of salt, we really were not able to determine any cause for suspicion based on Intel’s setups.  The machines were as clean as they could get, with the BIOS oversight having no tangible impact on most performance.

After this second round of tests, there doesn't appear to be anything malicious or underhanded going on Intel's part. The BIOS had little to no effect on performance and the Conroe still comes out on top. Now all we have to do is wait for AM2 Athlons.

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sad day for computer enthusiasts
By cgrecu77 on 3/9/2006 12:21:48 PM , Rating: 1
I can't understand how some people can be happy with this ... If Intel regains the performance crown by a significant margin it could easily spell the end for AMD. With an agressive marketing strategy and a superior product they could bury AMD and I'm pretty sure that AMD won't have the ability to fight back once more ...
And if AMD goes down we all know what the future holds, 500 dollars for a medium range CPU, $2000 for a top-of-the-line and so on. We will see a 200 Mhz increase every other year if we're lucky ... And since a CPU is so amazingly complex and the technology and resources required to build a CPU are so difficult ti acquire you can be sure that there will NEVER be a competitor for Intel. I just can't understand how so many people hate Microsoft (who delivers decent products at decent prices) while they love Intel (who usually delivers poor products at astronomical prices) ...

By Sensai on 3/9/2006 12:30:40 PM , Rating: 2
hehe.. you're giving your hopes up for nothing... AMD won't go down that easily.... the current 939 and very soon AM2 is what they have now. 90nm am2 is not expected to do any significant jumps in power and performance as we perceive conroe will do. you can hope that the next significant architecture improvement or 65 nm (for wattage) move covers even more ground.

By masher2 on 3/9/2006 12:35:55 PM , Rating: 2
> "With an agressive marketing strategy and a superior product they could bury AMD"

Intel could have "buried" AMD any time it wanted in the past 10 years. Strategically, it would be a very poor move for them however. They'd gain only 20% market share (and not the most profitable 20% at that) at the cost of gaining a huge amount of antitrust attention.

Far better to keep an easily-controlled minor competitor in the marketplace. The past year or two, though, they slipped up, and the 'minor' competitor started giving them a little more heat than they wanted.

By trivik12 on 3/9/2006 1:03:23 PM , Rating: 2
I dont think AMD is going down at all. Only their revenue will be hit if they have to decrease prices once ICM releases. I think they will delay the decrease as much as they can. But by May-June we would know exact release date of ICM and discerning buyers will delay their purchase then if they know the prices will be going down.

So actually it will be good for computer enthusiasts (Intel and AMD) if they could get FX-60 for $500 like Conroe 2.67Ghz.

By DallasTexas on 3/9/2006 2:42:42 PM , Rating: 1
"..I can't understand how some people can be happy with this.."

I applaud your bleeding heart attempt to support AMD, however, at the end of the day, "computer enthusiasts" care about performance and PC adaptability. I don't neccessarily see that category of buyers subscribe to your views that AMD is some PC saviour. You are either drinking too much AMD koolaid on the outside or AMD is serving too much of it in their cafeteria. Clearly, AMD will surely dust off the underdog marketing campaign to cover their now lackluster performance compared to Intel.

The bottom line is 'enthusiasts' and 'gamers', in general, don't care. In fact, what AMD should be concerned about in the bleeding heart department is 90% of the manufacturing is done off shore. At Intel 80% is done in the good old USA. Not that it matters all that terribly, but AMD should be a tad concerned that Germany is "over there" and Idaho, massachussetts, Oregon, New mexico, Colorado, etc etc is "Over here".
AMD should not play that card too strongly and best to revertto crank up the clock at the expense of more heat in or der to compete.

“And I don't know why [Apple is] acting like it’s superior. I don't even get it. What are they trying to say?” -- Bill Gates on the Mac ads
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