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Critics fear that citizens sleepwalk into the arms of Big Brother

The UK government wants a massive database to store the web, e-mail, and phone histories of every person in the country – and is unveiling new telecommunications legislation to implement it.

Technology is changing too fast, said a spokeswoman for the UK Home Office, and current progress is undermining law enforcement’s ability to obtain data and “use it to protect the public.”

Such legislation would update the country’s laws, giving the government and law enforcement officials an expanded ability to obtain communications records essential for counter-terrorism and fighting crime. Under the new legislation, law enforcement would receive a brand new, centralized database of communications records, giving officers a one-stop shop for comprehensive reports on a person’s communications activities.

Ross Anderson, chairman of think-tank Foundation for Information Policy Research, thinks that such a database would require network providers to undergo substantial redesigns of their networks. As a result, service providers “would simply move abroad” rather than play ball with the government.

“It's an enormous power grab by the Home Office, and to think it will become a reality is wishful thinking,” said Anderson.

Such a database would add a considerable amount of information to the country’s already large surveillance program, complementing controversial plans for a national Identity Register and corresponding ID card that were delayed to 2012.Together, with new face-recognition technology in surveillance cameras, and comprehensive national ID and communications databases, government officials would have the ability to take a seemingly intimate view into ordinary citizens’ lives, documenting previously anonymous data with startling efficiency.

Naturally, civil rights groups, IT experts, activists, and security professionals are concerned about the initiative – particularly given previous programs’ lack of effectiveness and the government’s spotty security record.

“This would give us serious concerns and may well be a step too far. We are not aware of any justification for the State to hold every UK citizen’s phone and internet records,” said assistant Information Commissioner Jonathan Bamford. “We have warned before that we are sleepwalking into a surveillance society.”

A communications database created per the proposal would be forced to record the almost 57 billion text messages and 3 billion e-mails sent annually in the UK, a security prospect that industry officials are concerned about attracting abuse.

“Given [ministers’] appalling record at maintaining the integrity of databases holding people’s sensitive data, this could well be more of a threat to [national] security, than a support,” said Shadow Home Secretary David Davis.

“Holding large collections of data is always risky - the more data that is collected and stored, the bigger the problem when the data is lost, traded or stolen,” said Bamford.

Government police and security forces would be able to access the database only for records authorized by court warrant.

Jamie Cowper, director of European marketing at security company PGP Corp., panned the idea.

“You've got to admire the government's gall in attempting to bring in yet another 'super-database' with public confidence still in tatters over recent lapses in data protection,” said Cowper.

PC World reports that the Internet Service Providers’ Association is taking a “wait-and-see” approach before it weighs in, but it expressed concern about modifications that ISPs would have to make to their businesses and infrastructure.

Home Office officials note that much of the information desired is already available, albeit spread across different companies. This creates an unnecessary time sink and hampers investigations, it said, and a new, central database would allow law enforcement and security officials to work more efficiently.

Full details will be released as part of a data communications bill set to be announced this November. Ministers have yet to see or approve the plans for inclusion in upcoming drafts.



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RE: Rediculous invasion of privacy
By deeznuts on 5/22/2008 12:59:14 AM , Rating: 2
Oops, wrong country. That would be sweden. Sveden, svitzerland, what's the difference?


RE: Rediculous invasion of privacy
By BarkHumbug on 5/22/2008 5:17:54 AM , Rating: 5
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Sveden, svitzerland, what's the difference?

To those who live there: Humongous.
To an American idiot: None at all.

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Americans are far from alone in the world, but from the perspective of many young Americans, we might as well be. Most young adults between the ages of 18 and 24 demonstrate a limited understanding of the world , and they place insufficient importance on the basic geographic skills that might enhance their knowledge.


http://www.nationalgeographic.com/roper2006/findin...


By AlphaVirus on 5/22/2008 12:43:54 PM , Rating: 4
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In total, 510 interviews were conducted with a representative sample of 18- to 24-year old adults in the continental United States, using an in-home, in-person methodology.

You are going to tell me 510 people can judge what over 15mil people 18-24 know?

Barkhumbug, you should reconsider who you call the idiot.

I will admit some of the things they failed to know is astonishing but at the same time they show no record where they found these people. For all we know, they picked some retarded, homeless people from some booney town in Idaho.

While it does shock me that only 75% of the people could not find Iran on a map, if it was not for the Iraq War most people would not care. Of course this is the problem but you can not force anyone to learn something that is mostly useless to them.

Try telling a doctor to learn physics, what do you think he would respond? Probably, why bother. Or tell a Physicist to learn how to give a lobotomy...

How about this, tell me where Libera is, what about Suriname, or even Manitoba.
And don't literally list where they are, I was simply using an example of places the average person (that does not live there) won't care to know about.

Until things are put on every tv station, your average person has other things to think about. Like how are they going to pay their bill in a few days, has their child been well fed, how is their sickly grandma doing, what foolishness is George Bush up to now?, and then of course they need to tend to their entertainment needs.

Everyone's world does not revolve around the world as much as their own lives.


By geddarkstorm on 5/22/2008 1:33:43 PM , Rating: 2
So where did you lose your ability to realize an off hand joke when you hear one? Cripes. Obvious he does know the difference quite well, or he wouldn't have realized his mistake. I doubt you know anything about the cultural/law differences between US states like Missouri verses Vermont.


RE: Rediculous invasion of privacy
By mindless1 on 5/22/2008 10:01:49 PM , Rating: 3
The idiotic part is you fail to understand why. Like any other people, americans spend time learning what they perceive to benefit them most. If an american has no desire to travel via navigation (vs getting on an airplane and being delivered), why would they need to know where some far off place was? It would be a foolish trivial pursuit like memorizing the street number on some building you pass on the way to work - yet never plan to visit for any reason.

Randomly memorizing things is the folly of those who aren't productive, to think they are smart instead of accepting intelligence comes from applying what one knows instead of how much they know.

Basic geographic skills are about as important as me knowing where the cereal isle is in a supermarket 1000 miles away, and yet I do (did at that age) know where those locations are on a map - I just recognize that knowing it has had no useful purpose.


RE: Rediculous invasion of privacy
By jabber on 5/23/2008 6:58:28 AM , Rating: 2
Ignorance is bliss. Is that it?

The world is very very small these days.


By mindless1 on 5/24/2008 1:42:58 PM , Rating: 2
Which means nothing. If you were in the US, would you be walking to the other side of the world? Would you be navigating in any way, shape or form by using a globe?

I doubt it. I'm not saying we should reject learning such things, rather that pretending this is somehow important relative to other things is a mistaken notion. American kids are lacking in so many areas of education that it's nearly the last thing they need, to know where someplace is on a map.

Ultimately the question is not "be ignorant" or don't, it's "don't pretend trivial things are as important as useful things". Spend the time encouraging the kids to learn what they need to know instead of things they don't, tackle the more important deficits in their education first and only then should more attention be paid to geographic locations on the other side of the world.


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