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Ice-T identifies with CJ from GTA: San Andreas
Nelson George: Video games are more important than hip-hop

In Alix Lambert’s book CRIME: A Series of Extraordinary Interviews Exposing the World of Crime - Real and Imagined, rap star Ice-T and author/filmmaker Nelson George speak on a variety of topics surrounding criminal tendencies and mentality, as excerpted by The Guardian.

The two touch on various topics, with one being of particular relevance today with the recent release of the latest chapter in the Grand Theft Auto video game series. “I love them,” proclaimed Ice-T. “The best one is Grand Theft Auto, which is just fucking mayhem. I'm in the Scarface game, which teaches you how to sell drugs, and I was in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. I played a cracked-out rap star who had his lyrics stolen and the person that stole them became a star. So I went on crack and by the end of the game I get my reputation and my mansion back. You start off as a kid in South Central LA, you build up your rep and then you get a gang. It's definitely some crazy shit.”

As Ice-T confesses his passion for video games, Nelson George takes it to the next level as he said, “Video games are more important than hip-hop. There's no doubt about it. The violence and nihilism that everyone thinks is in hip-hop is pumped up about 18 times in video games. That's really what's driving young male culture, that's really the new rock'n'roll.”

Ice-T spoke on the second Grand Theft Auto game on the PS2, “The Vice City games are the worst shit ever - in a good way. It's so intentionally wrong that you've got to get into it. You go, "Oh my God, if I'm out of money I just rob a liquor store. Inside this world, all the things that you think about, you can do.”

George continued, “The funny thing about this debate is so many hip-hop critics are fixated on rap and not talking enough about video games, which aren't a racially determinant form. Obviously those Grand Theft Auto guys were very canny because they tied in to Scarface, they tied in to hip-hop. I mean, Def Jam has a line of video games. Hip-hop became subsumed into the games.

As a filmmaker himself, George draws parallels between video games and movies. “With video games the relationship to the culture is different, they're much more like movies. They're a really interesting hybrid. The Grand Theft Auto dudes were all about figuring out how to tap into urban culture. Video games, like movies, take in so many disciplines.”

While both hip-hop and video games have been scapegoats for violence, Ice-T turns it around and sees video games such as Grand Theft Auto as outlets for aggressive feelings. “Does that make you want to do it in real life? No. To me it diffuses it. People say video games make kids violent. I don't think so. It can be an outlet for that aggression. It's a masculine thing. Human beings have some weird blood lust, it roots back to us being animals. It's ill, though.”



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RE: its about time
By TimberJon on 5/20/2008 2:12:01 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not a parent, but I grew up in a group home, and around much less "aware" individuals. Later on I was noticed as not belonging in that environment at all, and ended up assisting the staff doing their jobs monitoring the ones that needed all the help. At the same time I was trusted with babysitting the normal children of the couple that ran the group-home network in the state of CA. So while not being a parent I grew up with great morals and a solid foundation of what is right and wrong. I matured quickly while being completely addicted to video games. It did not make me aggressive, but that coupled with blockbuster hits, helped me to realize that any crime I commit could be traced to me, and anything that I lie about will be found out about and end up to be just not worth the trouble.

To instill that kind of thinking in your children is to save their a$$ from all kinds of trouble. Let them know their FINGERPRINTS are on everything and even if you use gloves.. you could have shed a single hair, or skin flake, Etc... Make an example every time they mess up with a discussion on how they will get caught every time, and to not take risks because of the potential for benefit.

Most movies and games are made to make money for their entertainment value. Great writers/directors also seek to educate and share things the average person doesn't know with complex ideas, like techniques, true secrets, physics, Etc.. through their movies. It is there where you can learn alot from these sources. For those who can absorb and analyze everything they observe, you can filter relavent info and use it in real life.

Playing video games requires a level of maturity! Not self control. Your ability to excercise self control comes from your understanding of the system, which branches from your life experiences. You can gain a concentration of life experience in a short amount of time with a clear understanding and exposure to video games, novels (not the dragon/wizard fantasy ones...) and movies.

My 2ยข


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