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Danger co-founders report directly to Microsoft senior VP

Microsoft is now the official and proud owner of Danger Inc. Microsoft announced today that it completed the acquisition of Danger, the company best known for making the Sidekick mobile phone. Microsoft says that Danger will become part of its Premium Mobile Experiences team (PMX).

Microsoft announced in February 2008 that it intended to purchase Danger.

The terms of the acquisition were not disclosed, but Microsoft says that the employees of Danger will continue to work from the current Danger offices. As part of the merger the co-founders of Danger, Matt Hershenson and Joe Britt will join PMX and report directly to Roz Ho, corporate vice president of Premium Mobile Experiences.

Ho said in a statement, “We imagine a mobile experience that embraces sharing and celebrating relationships and personal moments. Combining Danger and Microsoft talents together in the Premium Mobile Experiences team is how we’re going to deliver cool, new, fun mobile experiences to consumers. We want people to smile every time they look at their phone.”

Microsoft says that the acquisition of Danger will allow it to provide mobile users with rich consumer experiences in communication, media sharing and more. Now it’s only a matter of time until a Sidekick turns up running the latest version of Windows Mobile 6.

Hopefully Microsoft and Danger can turn out a mobile device with an Internet browsing experience as enjoyable as Apple has provided with the iPhone.



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Don't really care for Iphone Safari
By weskurtz0081 on 4/15/2008 8:20:29 PM , Rating: 1
I don't have much experience with cell phone browsers, but I imagine that it wouldn't be tough to make it better than Safari on the Iphone. As long as they make it work with more file formats, like ICS and pdf, and give it tabs, it would be MUCH better.




RE: Don't really care for Iphone Safari
By RogueSpear on 4/15/2008 8:44:15 PM , Rating: 2
Pocket IE has sucked since it was released. Even with the iPhone out for several months already and Windows Mobile 6.1 not even out yet, all signs indicate that PIE in WM 6.1 will still be competing for the worst mobile browser award.

If it wasn't that tough (for Microsoft anyway) they would have done it already.


By Gul Westfale on 4/15/2008 9:38:01 PM , Rating: 1
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/

been using that on my M600, and it was a revelation. now if only fido's data rates were more affordable...


RE: Don't really care for Iphone Safari
By ToeCutter on 4/16/2008 12:38:19 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Pocket IE has sucked since it was released.


Roger that. And sadly, it hasn't changed much since PPC 2003.

How is it that after 3 iterations (4 if you count WM 6.1) MS still can't get this right? They eclipsed Palm OS years ago and have had the market to themselves until Apple came along with iPhone. Even with iPhone's impending release, Ballmer was running his pie-hole about what a "great experience" WM is and iPhone would do little change that. Um ok, whatever, Steve.

Say what you will about iPhone (btw, I still use a Treo 700wx), but it's eaten WMs lunch. Those of us that have been using WM devices since jumpstreet have little to show for our loyalty, as no one offers WM upgrades save a few OEMs. You're stuck with what your phone shipped with, which is a far cry from the simple upgrades that held so much promise for the platform.

The sad truth is that Safari Mobile is the only reason that MS has gotten around to improving PIE, in the same way Netscape is the only reason IE ever made it past v3.0.

(You might recall, that was when MS still considered the Internet a "fad")


By aebiv on 4/16/2008 3:51:12 AM , Rating: 3
I can say I'm pretty happy with my array of HTC devices and Motorola Q9h.

Of course I run all Opera browsers on them, but otherwise, much more useable devices than the iPhone. I think thanks to HTC us "WM" loyal people have actually a lot to show for it.


RE: Don't really care for Iphone Safari
By JamRockaz on 4/16/2008 3:28:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
as no one offers WM upgrades save a few OEMs. You're stuck with what your phone shipped with, which is a far cry from the simple upgrades that held so much promise for the platform.


I don't know which oem doesn't offer upgrades to WM. from wm5 to wm6 and soon to wm6.1. sometimes the upgrade is there but the oems don't want to adopt it because they can sell new devices with the upgrades.

and HTC devices have a wide spread user base that are not afraid to put on the update themselves. I just installed an update yesterday, running wm6.1 and its quite fast on my kaiser. know what your talking about before you say something, or else you'll look like an a*s


By ToeCutter on 4/16/2008 3:50:02 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I don't know which oem doesn't offer upgrades to WM.


That would be Palm, the Treo folks?

I've quoted the only part of your post that I could make sense of, sorry about not addressing the rest. I assume English is your second language, it's pretty good, keep up the hard work!

And, JamRockaz (?), thanks for the advice about "know what I'm talking", I'd lose sleep if you thought me an ass.


By maverick85wd on 4/16/2008 11:09:23 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
If it wasn't that tough (for Microsoft anyway) they would have done it already.


Just like IE sucked for years (and IMO still does, just not as bad) until Firefox started eating considerable market share? Right....


RE: Don't really care for Iphone Safari
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 4/15/2008 9:35:32 PM , Rating: 2
Safari on the iPhone is quite good. I have an iPod touch is basically the same thing hardware/software wise and Safari is a breeze. It's really the browser to beat in the mobile arena IMHO.

I can easily browse just about any webpage and everything renders properly. The only thing I wish it supported are Flash and animated gifs.

And Safari on the iPhone/iPod touch has tabs and can view PDF files (with the Jailbreak and an app download).


RE: Don't really care for Iphone Safari
By darkpaw on 4/15/2008 11:24:21 PM , Rating: 2
Even as someone that pretty much hates Apple, I have to admit that the iPhone browser is way ahead of any other mobile browser.

I'll just wait till someone releases a good iPhone knockoff with a great browser (hopefully Firefox based) so I can get a good phone browser without selling my soul to Jobs.


By maverick85wd on 4/16/2008 11:12:22 AM , Rating: 2
the thing I hate the most about the iPhone is that Apple makes it. They have such great products and such crappy policies (oh and high prices, but I can't totally blame them there, Supply and Demand does apply) it makes me nauseous.


By ToeCutter on 4/16/2008 3:53:53 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
... selling my soul to Jobs.

Is that part of the iTunes license or AT&T's annual contract?


By FITCamaro on 4/16/2008 8:06:52 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The only thing I wish it supported are Flash and animated gifs.


Yeah because not having those porn GIFs working are a real drag on the experience. ;)


RE: Don't really care for Iphone Safari
By isorfir on 4/16/2008 8:46:26 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
The only thing I wish it supported are Flash and animated gifs.


Yes, I agree that it is pretty good compared to most other mobile browsers, but considering that Apple bills it as "Not watered down internet," that's about as truthful as "millions of colors."

Not having Flash, animated gif and Java support makes it by far the worst "true" browser out there. Apple is once again hoping that the people they sell to either don't know or don't care about the truth.


By ToeCutter on 4/16/2008 2:38:25 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
but considering that Apple bills it as "Not watered down internet,"


Show me a phone browser that runs Flash and animated GIFs.

Er. wait, I'll keep it simple: Show me a phone browser that will render pages anywhere near as well as Safari Mobile.


RE: Don't really care for Iphone Safari
By molgenit on 4/16/2008 12:43:58 PM , Rating: 2
Have you checked out this? http://www.skyfire.com/


By ToeCutter on 4/17/2008 9:39:18 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Have you checked out this? http://www.skyfire.com/

Oh yeah, I've been waiting for my beta since they opened registration.

It looks nifty, but does me little good until I can install it on my Treo..


By weskurtz0081 on 4/16/2008 1:32:23 PM , Rating: 2
So, you are saying it doesn't come that way right? I am saying, that it should, or Apple shouldn't punish you for modding your firmware. I don't want to have to jailbreak my phone just because Apple wants to have supreme control. That is what I hate about Apple, they are commies when it comes to the products they sell. They want people to buy the stuff, and pay more for it, yet they will say what the buyer is allowed to do with it.


RE: Don't really care for Iphone Safari
By ToeCutter on 4/16/2008 12:19:46 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
and give it tabs, it would be MUCH better.


You're right, you don't have much experience with mobile browsers, as Safari Mobile already has tabs.


RE: Don't really care for Iphone Safari
By weskurtz0081 on 4/16/2008 1:08:55 PM , Rating: 2
I HAVE an I-Phone, and it DOESN'T have tabs. I don't want to have to jailbreak the damn thing to give it tabs either (although it already is), and I haven't found the app to tab Safari. But, like I said, it doesn't support tabs natively.


By ToeCutter on 4/16/2008 2:34:07 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
But, like I said, it doesn't support tabs natively.


You need to RTFM.

Opening Multiple Pages at Once

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305...


New phone
By L33tMasta on 4/15/2008 8:05:01 PM , Rating: 2
Could this be the sign of a Microsoft phone?




RE: New phone
By ImSpartacus on 4/15/2008 9:18:34 PM , Rating: 2
At least they make an attempt to expand their reach. It worked for Apple.

An M$ phone would also mean that they would update their mobile software more. Overall, seems like a novel idea for them.


RE: New phone
By MrBlastman on 4/16/2008 9:40:58 AM , Rating: 1
*dreamy music plays*

Hello! 911??

Hello!?!!

911 Operator: 911 What is your Emergency?

My My... my arm has fallen off and I can pick it up! Please send help asap, I'm about to pass out

911: Sir, are you able to re-attach it?

No, the saw the saw was spinning fas.. *click* and it cut it off!

Hello?

911?

911?!?!

*Looks at phone - a blue screen has appeared stating the phone has caused an Illegal Operation and will be shut down immediately*

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


RE: New phone
By rudolphna on 4/16/2008 10:34:44 AM , Rating: 2
pardon me if i find it slightly amusing when ive never had WM crash on me.... ever. its interface and PIE certainly leave something to be desired, but the phone part itself works fine. Never heard of anyone ever getting a BSOD on WM.


RE: New phone
By darkpaw on 4/16/2008 3:56:26 PM , Rating: 2
Must depend on the phone, I've had my Q lock up so many times it isn't even funny. It also has a wonderful habit of not charging fully (even though it told you it did) and then wiping itself when it runs out of battery power. That is pretty much unforgivable in a mobile device. The only other device I've ever owned that wiped itself after a total power rundown was my Asus pocket PC and that just wiped the user memory space after not being charged for several weeks!

The best part? If it wipes itself and you have the latest firmware you have to send it back to factory for a reload. Although, the phone is happy enough to be reflashed, their software just merrily informs you it is already up to date! Oh how lovely, just reflash the damn thing again you POS. I asked several people at Motorola why they have that stupid restriction and no one could tell me. Thats obviously a Motorola issue though and not Windows Mobile. I tried to get them to actually replace the phone after the second time it wiped itself, but nope they just reflashed it and sent it back again.

Ah there I feel better now. Either way, I'll never be buying another Motorola product again and being quite clear to tell my friends and family not to buy any either. Note to Sprint and Motorola: It's really not a good idea pissing off the type of people that lots of people come to for advice on technology purchases.


By ToeCutter on 4/16/2008 2:49:20 PM , Rating: 2
Dude!

Don't say anything bad about Microsoft here, EVER!

Even if it makes TOTAL sense!

Many here stake their livelihoods on keeping those pesky Microsoft products up and running.

If their bosses discovered the that they've invested so much capital in poor, unreliable MS products, it might be curtains for some very lazy admins!

Defy them, and the MS Geek Brigade will knock your comment down to 0, or worse if your comment makes sense, the dreaded negative 1!

(You've been warned. Settle down or the Mac/Penguin gets it GOOD!)


By ShadowZERO on 4/17/2008 5:15:24 AM , Rating: 2
Wow, I really didn't realize the "fanboism" factor here was that bad. Looks like you are correct, as my OP was rated down to zero.

Still, I wasn't trying to say anything "bad" about Microsoft. I was mostly trying to point out that things have changed so much since the days of DOS and the earlier versions of Windows, and it wouldn't take the same level of ingenuity to create a decent competitor these days. I cannot understate how much respect I have for Gates and Allen for doing what they did. Their talent and ideas were far before their time.

This is actually the first time I have pointed out that Microsoft is doing everything in their power to reduce their dependency on PC OS software as their bread and butter for profit.
IMHO, the only things that keeps Windows as the mainstay for consumer OS technology is that third party developers realize that developing software for Windows is the only was to ensure a guaranteed market share. DirectX for gaming is the biggest example of this, no other company has anything to compare to it for the ease of creating 3D games that will sell well. Why do you think MS is has shifted so much effort into their "Games for Windows" campaign recently?

I got a good chuckle out of your sarcasm. Still, you seem to be completely on the ball with the mentality on this site. But like I said, I've never expressed this idea before, and it looks like the way things are right now, I won't get any good discussion from the people on DailyTech on this topic.


By ToeCutter on 4/17/2008 9:51:31 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I got a good chuckle out of your sarcasm. Still, you seem to be completely on the ball with the mentality on this site.


Yeah, it's kinda sad. I've been an Anand fan since the old 3Dfx days, before there was a Dailytech. This was once a place to come and exchanged fresh opinions and ideas, but it's become another intellectually bankrupt sounding board for anyone with an opinion. While many here ferociously defend their sometimes wacky opinions, few here make the effort to express how they came to their own conclusions.

I don't mind when others disagree with me, there's often something to learn within a disagreement. But here, well, you've tasted the bitter fanboy pill, so you don't need a reminder from me.


Awesome pic!!
By oTAL on 4/16/2008 6:16:26 AM , Rating: 3
Austin: Baby, danger is my middle name!
AP: ... No, really...
*Shows ID reading Austin Danger Powers




By Ananke on 4/16/2008 5:46:34 AM , Rating: 2
I have the feeling MS is getting prepared for Android based phones, running google search engine and online applications. I recently participated and later read statistics of a survey, which indicates that free phones and free or very inexpensive mobile service will attract immense number of phone customer, i.e. consumers. That is the future of a trillion dollar mobile advertising industry, and everything indicates that Google is going towards that scenario. I guess the provider would be Verizon, since Cingular already works with Apple, and Cingular doesn't have the backbone network for broadband mobile data transfer, yet.




By Creig on 4/16/2008 12:20:48 PM , Rating: 2
Roz Ho, "Danger, Bill Gates, Danger!"




article picture
By Screwballl on 4/16/2008 2:37:54 PM , Rating: 2
I think the picture from James Bond Goldfinger "No Mr Bond, I expect you to die" is more appropriate.

It fits better with the "Microsoft's quest for world domination" theme they seem to playing into.




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