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The DualShock 3 is the PlayStation 3 controller of the future

Force feedback vibration controllers are nearly within the grasp of North American PlayStation 3 gamers. Announced at last year’s Tokyo Games Show, the DualShock 3 released November 11 in Japan. Gamers elsewhere resorted to import solutions in order to experience the good vibrations not felt since the PlayStation 2 days.

The DualShock 3 will hit U.S. retail on April 15, near the release of Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, which supports rumble feedback. SCEA announced in February that the DualShock 3 will retail at $54.99, or $5 more than the current SIXAXIS controller.

Although Sony appears to have little problem maintaining multiple different SKUs for its consoles, it has no intention of keeping two controller models on the market. Speaking to MTV, a Sony representative said, “Sixaxis will no longer be offered after it’s completely sold through at retail (likely by the summer timeframe).”

One interesting thing to take away from the Sony statement is that a new 40GB PS3 console package will be on its way perhaps as soon as summer. As the current 40GB model includes a SIXAXIS controller, Sony will have to at the very least revise its current bundle to incorporate the newer DualShock 3.

The DualShock 3 controller will be officially a part of new consoles this June, with the introduction of the Metal Gear Solid 4 package which will include the game, 80GB PlayStation 3 and controller.

4/3/08 Update: Gamers are reporting that that local retailers, such as GameStop and Best Buy, have begun receiving early shipments of DualShock 3 controllers and are permitted to sell immediately.



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Sony, How About a Trade In?
By Inkjammer on 4/3/2008 9:22:07 AM , Rating: 5
It'd be nice if Sony offered a trade-in for those of us with a a Sixaxis. Let us trade it in for a reduced cost to upgrade, whatever. I just can't help but feel shunted given Sony's prior stance that "gamers don't want or need rumble" then turning around and introducing it to us like it's something new and magical.

Pay $55, not including taxes, to re-buy what Sony should have given out in the first place? Great.




RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By i3arracuda on 4/3/2008 9:26:55 AM , Rating: 4
Right on!

...does anyone know where I can get a 9800 GX2 for $300?


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By daftrok on 4/3/2008 11:53:39 AM , Rating: 3
Make a time machine and go to 2009.

But about the controller. It isn't meant to fully replace your controller just add to it. Though 55 dollars may seem steep, keep in mind that a wireless 360 controller retails for 50, and it doesn't include a rechargeable battery nor wire; that costs an additional 20 bucks, making it a 70 dollar controller.

I for one wouldn't mind a trade-in, but don't game stores do this already? Like if you give them a controller, don't they give you some store credit you can put into a Dualshock 3?


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By i3arracuda on 4/3/2008 12:13:14 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
...does anyone know where I can get a 9800 GX2 for $300?


quote:

Make a time machine and go to 2009.


Wait, you mean to tell me I have to pay full price for a 9800 GX2?! I already have a 7950 GX2! I'm not paying $600 again, this is bullshit!

I can't believe nVidia has the gall in improve their product and charge a premium for it. Hell, a 8800GT 512 blows my old GX2 out of the water, and it only costs $200!

I demand restitution! Shenanigans!


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By Lightnix on 4/5/2008 9:54:25 PM , Rating: 2
I'm sure I'm not the only one to find it ironic that you're using the term 'improved' in the context of the GeForce 9 series...


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By afkrotch on 4/3/2008 12:42:19 PM , Rating: 2
Ya, it's called GameStop. That or just roll to a pawn shop.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By i3arracuda on 4/3/2008 1:02:12 PM , Rating: 2
quote:

That or just roll to a pawn shop.


I was looking for an ultra high-end graphics card, not a chainsaw that doesn't work.

'Facetious' must be a word from a dead language, or something.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By afkrotch on 4/3/2008 1:19:54 PM , Rating: 2
Look at the dotted lines. That was a response to daftrok.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By i3arracuda on 4/3/08, Rating: -1
RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By afkrotch on 4/3/2008 1:49:56 PM , Rating: 3
Jesus christ, has the basic reading comprehension of Dailytech readers gone way downhill recently?

quote:

quote:
I for one wouldn't mind a trade-in, but don't game stores do this already? Like if you give them a controller, don't they give you some store credit you can put into a Dualshock 3?


Ya, it's called GameStop. That or just roll to a pawn shop.


I really don't see wtf is so difficult to see that. Let me break it down for you some more.

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Ya, it's called GameStop. GameStop is a game store that will take your old controller and provide you with store credit towards the purchase of any item within their store.

That or you can just go to your local pawn shop and sell your old non-rumble Sixaxis controller to receive a small cash sum. With that small cash sum, you can put it towards the purchase of a new Sony Dual Shock 3 controller.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By daftrok on 4/3/2008 2:19:17 PM , Rating: 2
Its that stupid nVidia comment that's confusing them. But I'm surprised at how pissed people got over the whole rumble thing. Yeah its great its back but they simply COULD NOT have done it at launch. Why? They didn't feel like paying Immersion 150 million bucks just to make your controller shake.

They had bigger fish to fry, like solving the whole battery issue, deal with the laser diode problems, getting some games released. I mean, at least they had the critical things down, like built in hard drive and HDMI out for the Blu ray player and NOT BREAKING.

I say its better late then never. These are the issues they have solved since launch:

1) Rumble Controller
2) All selling consoles have wireless/HDMI out/HDD
3) Dropped price
4) 1080p upscaling of all video, including PS1 and PS2 games
5) Divx support along with other video/audio/picture formats
6) Nearly full support for any USB camera/mouse/keyboard/webcam/external HDD
7) Blu ray 2.0

And now they are fixing the PSN network and will be coming out with Home, hopefully bridging the gap between PSN and XBL.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By afkrotch on 4/3/2008 2:34:18 PM , Rating: 3
There's also the integration between PSP and PS3.

For my 360, I happen to just lose features. I created a US Xbox Live account and threw in my Microsoft Points, just in time for them to stop allowing those outside the US from downloading TV shows and movies. I ended up having to waste the points on random arcade games.

I prefer the PS3s more open nature, than the Xbox 360s closed nature. Can't even transfer mp3s off a usb key to the hard drive on the 360. That's become pretty moot, since I've gotten a Zune though. My usb key is pretty tiny and required me to pull the faceplate off to get it out or use pliers to pry if out from the back. Would have been nice to throw the mp3s onto the hard drive.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By i3arracuda on 4/3/2008 2:26:26 PM , Rating: 2
quote:

Jesus christ, has the basic reading comprehension of Dailytech readers gone way downhill recently?


quote:
quote:

I for one wouldn't mind a trade-in, but don't game stores do this already? Like if you give them a controller, don't they give you some store credit you can put into a Dualshock 3?


Ya, it's called GameStop. That or just roll to a pawn shop.


/slowclap

Was that so hard?


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By afkrotch on 4/3/2008 2:36:07 PM , Rating: 2
Apparently for the dimwitted, it was required.


By i3arracuda on 4/3/2008 2:41:07 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, we prefer comments to be written in crayon. They taste better when we lick the screen.

We settle for quotes.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By deeznuts on 4/3/2008 2:25:59 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Then your comment makes no sense in a contextual sense. I'd direct you to the quote button, but I ran out of bread crumbs.
You should stop dude, you're looking really stupid right now ... Made perfect sense, unless you're new to how forums/threads work and tracking multiple conversations at one time ...

Here are some more crumbs ...


By i3arracuda on 4/3/2008 2:29:27 PM , Rating: 3
quote:

You should stop dude, you're looking really stupid right now ... Made perfect sense, unless you're new to how forums/threads work and tracking multiple conversations at one time ...


Looking stupid? I'm posting to an Internet blog. It's a prerequisite.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By slacker57 on 4/3/2008 2:55:08 PM , Rating: 4
I don't know. I think the fact that you guys paid so much attention to him makes everybody look bad...


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By afkrotch on 4/3/2008 3:21:38 PM , Rating: 3
Including you. Booyah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By pomaikai on 4/3/2008 9:28:26 AM , Rating: 3
Thats what you get for being an early adopter. Oh wait, PS3 has been out for quite a while now. Maybe you should of waited a couple years until they finally figure out what hardware gamers want. Sorry, couldnt help bush bash them. It seems like all they do is modify the hardware every couple months.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By afkrotch on 4/3/2008 11:02:42 AM , Rating: 4
Ya, so different from Xbox 360, that has had to modify their hardware every couple of months to fix issues that QC should have found to begin with.

But hey, 3 broken Xbox 360s later and one perfectly fine PS3. So I don't have rumble. Better than having 3 broken PS3s. I can live with $55 for a new controller, which haven't seen a need to bother with rumble.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By Inkjammer on 4/3/2008 11:04:36 AM , Rating: 2
I'm fully aware of the consequences to being an early adopter. I own over a dozen HD-DVDs. Enough said.

Still, Sony's attitude towards the inclusion of rumble control is what bothers me. For a company to come out and say "You don't need it" and then turn around and say "Yes, you do need it!" is offputtingly stupid.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By VIAN on 4/3/2008 11:29:55 AM , Rating: 2
Did you expect anything different from Sony?

Rumble is nice, but I love how light the SIXAXIS is.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By mles1551 on 4/3/2008 12:51:52 PM , Rating: 2
I fully agree about the weight of the SIXAXIS.

I have no use for rumble and even less use for the SIXAXIS motion control, but I love the fact that it doesn't feel like I'm holding a brick while I'm yelling BOOM! Headshot!! at the TV.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By FITCamaro on 4/3/2008 1:36:22 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
while I'm yelling BOOM! Headshot!! at the TV


You could just not do that and spare the rest of us.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By rhuarch on 4/3/2008 12:02:48 PM , Rating: 2
I just don't understand why everyone is so mad at Sony. I bought my PS3 about 3 months ago and I am extremely happy with it. Instead of buying too soon I almost waited too long. By the time I was ready to buy, the SKUs with ps2 compatibility had been discontinued and the only place I could get the 80gig new was on Amazon. Right now I am still burning through the last of the PS2 RPGs I hadn't beaten, but the PS3 has become essentially a media PC in our living room. I have ripped all my DVDs to high quality MP4s and keep them on a server running Tversity. now I can watch any movie in my library just by choosing it from a list on my PS3. In addition to movies Tversity streams and transcodes internet videos, so I even watch a lot of my favorite TV shows through the PS3. And I will definitely be buying a Dual shock eventually. Granted I could probably do most of this (minus PS2 compatibility) with a 360 and I will probably get one eventually when they have sorted out their QA issues (there are some really tempting games for the 360) but that is no reason to hate Sony. The PS3 has less than a 1% failure rate while the 360's is around 30%. Not only that but it has come to light that Microsoft knew about the quality problems before they went gold but ignored them to get the one year drop on Sony. Why doesn't anyone ever mention that? The truth is, Sony and Microsoft are both trying to make money, and both chose strategies that involved a certain amount of duplicity, but it seems to me that Microsoft has been much more dishonest than Sony in this generation of consoles.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By afkrotch on 4/3/2008 12:36:32 PM , Rating: 2
You're quoting old failure rate numbers. The new Falcons aren't so bad. As long as your 360 has HDMI, you'll be good to go, for the most part.

Sony duped you into a non-rumble controller. Microsoft duped you into buying a console with roughly 33% failure rate. (Both at release of course) You pick which one is worse.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By deeznuts on 4/3/2008 2:30:26 PM , Rating: 2
A non rumble controller that still works I might add ...

Quit cryin everyone, do what I did. Buy a DS3, leave the sixaxis for your friends when they come over. Problem solved. I have 3 controllers. I use one, the DS3 I imported last year, and when friends come over they get the Six.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By afkrotch on 4/3/2008 2:39:04 PM , Rating: 2
I'll probably get a couple DS3s for those who come over, unless I like the additional weight and it isn't cumbersome to turn off rumble.

I don't like the brick weight of the Xbox 360 controller and I feel the Six is too light. Maybe the DS3 will be the perfect inbetween.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By Aloonatic on 4/3/08, Rating: 0
RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By Aloonatic on 4/3/08, Rating: 0
By TheSpaniard on 4/3/2008 9:43:31 AM , Rating: 2
well Im a launch owner... *hug*

don't worry :) things can only get better.... right?


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By Hiawa23 on 4/3/2008 9:47:17 AM , Rating: 2
not that anyone really cares, but for the record my TVs a Z series Tosh :-s

Whilst I'm here, is there a support group for early adopters of the PS3?

I need somewhere where i can stand up and say;

"my name's Aloonatic and I bought a PS3 near release"

then get a hug of the person next to me. They are the only people who understand my pain :)

i'm still taking it a day at a time :-s


utter nonsense & really not worth repsonding to..

I uderstand about the lawsuit, but don't come out & say no one wants rumble or it's so last gen, then come out now like it's something new & worthy of $54.


By i3arracuda on 4/3/2008 9:48:41 AM , Rating: 1
No one is forcing you to buy it.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By Aloonatic on 4/3/2008 9:51:59 AM , Rating: 2
i agree with you on all counts, yet you still responded :-s

you really should try to lighten up a bit.

my comment was only a light hearted on and not worth getting too vexed about :)

i got a hug for you too if you want one?


By TheSpaniard on 4/3/2008 9:54:00 AM , Rating: 2
I think he might have wanted to respond to me further down the page...


By TheSpaniard on 4/3/2008 9:52:10 AM , Rating: 2
their plan might have been to overlook rumble and then everyone kicked and screamed until they said ok...

god damn sony is retarded! they should have played fair from the begining and this wouldn't have been a problem


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By afkrotch on 4/3/2008 11:51:20 AM , Rating: 4
Back in the day when the Xbox 360 had a 33% failure rate? Ya, think you'd be singing a different tune, if you purchased a 360 back in the day.

Course not sure exactly what you feel about getting ripped off with? Please explain.

Back in the day I bought a 360 Premium and PS3. Both bought in Jan 06.

360 Premium ($288 USD)
controller
headset
20 gig hdd
remote
non-HD capable cables (go figure that one)

PS3 60 gig ($411 USD)
controller
60 gig hdd
memory card readers
wireless ethernet
HDMI
non-HD capable cables (again...go figure)

Both of mine are Japanese models, bought while I was living in Japan. So significantly lower cost for me. The PS3 has a higher price, but hey. Has wireless and a blu-ray drive.

I know I sure as hell didn't get anything from Microsoft the multiple times they created new revisions. Didn't get a new 360 when they swapped to a quieter dvd-rom drive. Didn't get one when they did it again. No new one when they updated the heatsink design. Nor when they added HDMI. They never made any new changes to their controllers (cept color or skin), so why'd they send you a new controller is beyond me.

Not sure why you think Sony is letting you down on being an early adopter. Shoot the 1st 60 gig model has more functionality than the current 80 gig models. Also almost 2 years of use on the current controller. I sure as hell wouldn't give you any money or a free controller. Now maybe if you bought a controller or PS3 console within the announcment of the Dual Shock 3, I would provide a step-up program for a replacement controller or a cost savings.

Would also replace Sixaxis controllers that have broken and are in for warranty replacement with a new Dual Shock 3.

Anyone who thinks Sony should up and give ppl a new controller after almost 2 years of use and still works fine is a moron. Should a car company replace everyone's currently working car cause a new model comes out? Dumbest thing I have heard today.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By daftrok on 4/3/2008 11:57:37 AM , Rating: 2
The Playstation 3 was released in Japan on November 11, 2006. Perhaps you mean Jan 2007? Or did you mean January 6th of this year?


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By afkrotch on 4/3/2008 12:10:37 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry about that. I meant Jan 2007. I bought it because of the release of Armored Core 4. Bought the 360 for the release of Idolm@ster.

Yes, I'm the type of person who will buy a console just for a game. Shoot, in Feb 2008, I bought a US 360 for Eternal Sonata. I was hoping it would have been one of those regionally unlocked type of games, but nope.

Looking at replacing my Japanese 360. I still fear the failure rates, as it's only a 2nd revision model. Looking at the newer HMDI ones, as the US 360 with HDMI seems fairly stable.

But, when your 360 looks like this...
http://www.afkrotch.com/Random_Pics/?d=/360%20Modd...
It's a big decision to swap and have to remod.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By poothedrew on 4/3/2008 1:08:12 PM , Rating: 2
"Non HD-Capable cables" ?

My 360 came with component cables each cable carries 400 lines of resolution. Me thinks 1200 lines is HD but hey that's me.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By afkrotch on 4/3/2008 1:35:47 PM , Rating: 2
My 360 Premium (Japanese) came with composite cables and it won't allow me to put it on 720p or higher. My 2nd 360 Core (Japanese) had composite. My 3rd 360 Blue Dragon Edition (Japanese) had composite. My 4th 360 Arcade (USA) had composite.

Maybe the Premium in the states were always using those composite/component hybrid cables, I don't know. All I know is I forked out another $40 for the VGA cables cause those composite suck.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By FITCamaro on 4/3/2008 1:47:17 PM , Rating: 1
Premium systems come with composite and component cables. Which are capable of carrying a 1080p signal. Your TV is to blame for not allowing HD resolutions over analog connections.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By afkrotch on 4/3/2008 2:07:36 PM , Rating: 2
My TV supports 1080i and has done so with my 360 Arcade (over HDMI and VGA) and PS3 (over component and HDMI). It's just that my Premium came with composite cables which aren't hybrid like the Premium models in the states. I also did not receive any component cables.

But thanks for thinking you know everything about every make/model/configuration of Xbox 360 SKUs for the varying countries around the world.

Also my TV happens to display my Xbox in 1080i over the VGA cables (aka an analog connection).


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By poothedrew on 4/3/2008 2:24:13 PM , Rating: 2
Ya figured their must be some international issues with packaging when you talked about the origin of your machine.

Which is dumb a Premium should be the same everywhere. But companies are still stupid to the fact the people will talk about these things and get pissed off.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By afkrotch on 4/3/2008 2:48:33 PM , Rating: 2
Ya, was annoyed when I popped it open, connected it all up and no HD. Sure, could have gotten a US 360 Premium like my friends, but at double the cost and no way to play the game I originally purchased the 360 for.

Idolm@ster was costing me 200 yen a play (500 yen for 3 plays) at the arcade. Each play is roughly 4-5 mins. It's 1000 yen to start playing the game or to create a new idol. So $288 for the 360, 7500 yen for the game, and $50 for the Xbox Live Gold was worth the cost savings of driving 45 mins to the arcade (Tokyo traffic is killer) and then paying to play. Still ended up hitting the arcade though. My old arcade idols still needed some loving.


By poothedrew on 4/3/2008 1:47:50 PM , Rating: 2
My Premium (Canadian) came with with component, HD out of the box.

Tough luck for you.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By glitchc on 4/3/2008 5:03:52 PM , Rating: 1
You bought a PS3 two months after release (Jan 07) for $411??

I call bullshit.


RE: Sony, How About a Trade In?
By deeznuts on 4/3/2008 2:28:04 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah well, guess what, it's business, get used to it. MS told us HDMI wasn't needed, but it gave it to us anyway. Sony does it. Nintendo does it. If you want to game, deal with it.

Your old controller works still, btw. And if you want trade it, well this is the internet make your own trade in. They sold you a working controller, and it still works. Trade-ins are a luxury, not a right. Craiglist, forums, and ebay await you.


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