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Infamous file-sharing continues its string of defiance

ThePirateBay.org leader Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, speaking to Swedish newspaper The Local, told recording industry lawyers to “go screw themselves” in response to the IFPI’s Monday demands for $2.5 million in compensatory damages.

The damage figure comes as part of the latest round in the ongoing legal saga surrounding The Pirate Bay and its leadership, which includes Svartholm, as well as co-founder Peter “Brokep” Sunde and administrators Fredrik Neij, among others. The four were indicted late last January on conspiracy charges, for the site’s role in facilitating piracy for 24 music albums, nine films, and four computer games.

Svartholm says he and his colleagues laughed at the claimed amount of damages, which he thinks were calculated by multiplying the number of the number of properties in the indictment times the number of times they were downloaded. This is wildly unrealistic, says Svartholm, because most downloaders would not have paid full price for an album in the first place.

According to Swedish IFPI chapter head Lars Gustaffson, the $2.5 million claim is “based on the albums which the prosecutor has included in his indictment. The injury to the record companies, the artists, and the copyright holders caused by The Pirate Bay’s illegal activity is many times greater.”

“As usual, we’re not too concerned,” said Svartholm. “[The IFPI’s] numbers are pure fantasy.”

Despite continually finding itself under fire for digital piracy, The Pirate Bay has seen an increasing amount of use as a legitimate channel for artists and producers looking to experiment with legal BitTorrent distribution: Trent Reznor famously uploaded part of his Creative Commons-licensed Ghosts I-IV to The Pirate Bay earlier this month – earning back $1.6 million in the first week – and The League of Noble Peers likely earned back all its production costs after experimenting with a novel donation model for its freely-available Steal This Film II.



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If They Really Want to Stop Them...
By Darkefire on 4/2/2008 4:03:47 AM , Rating: 1
Change the goddamn laws in Sweden. They've found that torrent trackers are not illegal, and until that ruling changes TPB is doing nothing wrong. Oh, sure, morally they're thieves of the worst kind, profiting openly from the intellectual theft of every major artist on the planet, but thanks to the rulings of their host country (or countries now) they're legally untouchable. Swedish prosecutors can try and convict them on every loophole they can find, but everything will be overturned on appeal because of the glaring lack of legal culpability they can come up with. It's like what "Law and Order" says: knowing someone has done something wrong and proving it are two entirely different things.

Frankly, I'm glad that TPB is the primary target of the RIAA/MPAA/everyone else. So long as torrents are in the crosshairs of the media industry, the real piracy scene will continue unabated and unfazed. When torrents finally are conquered sometime in the next 20 years, they'll have maybe two whole days of celebration before they realize that not a single dent has been made and their stockholders start slowly roasting them over the coals for wasting all that money suing penniless college kids and grandmothers. As long as the internet (and most of Asia) exists, there will be piracy en-masse, and there isn't a law-enforcement agency on the planet that can prevent it.




By Daemyion on 4/2/2008 7:49:46 AM , Rating: 2
Well we can nuke Asia John... Torrents are harder (bloody Internet)...

/scarcasm


RE: If They Really Want to Stop Them...
By chick0n on 4/2/08, Rating: 0
By cochy on 4/2/2008 9:19:27 AM , Rating: 1
I'd vote to ban guns.

*ducks*


RE: If They Really Want to Stop Them...
By lco45 on 4/3/2008 8:49:42 AM , Rating: 2
Dude, guns are already banned because they can be used to kill people.
Where the hell are you from? America or something?

Luke


By aebiv on 4/8/2008 6:00:34 PM , Rating: 2
So can your hands, that coffee pot, that 19" CRT monitor you have, and the car or bike you ride to school...


RE: If They Really Want to Stop Them...
By TITAN1080 on 4/2/2008 9:19:02 AM , Rating: 3
LOL.

You, are a tool.

I'm pretty sure record execs unfairly profit far more than regular people running torrent sites.

Get your head out of corporations' ass you sycophant.


RE: If They Really Want to Stop Them...
By seekerofknowledge on 4/2/2008 1:59:46 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
I'm pretty sure record execs unfairly profit far more than regular people running torrent sites.


Your comments are obliviously those of someone with the thought process of a twelve-year old who has never been taught right from wrong. Not only do you show you’re ignorance in the statement (I’m pretty sure..), but you also attempt to justify the act of stealing by using the socialistic idea of “record execs unfairly profit far more than regular people running torrent sites”.

If you see nothing wrong with stealing, why aren’t you walking into department stores and taking what you want? After all, by your reasoning, department store ‘execs’ make far more than ‘regular people’. Wait – I’ll answer that for you: Because it’s far easier to get caught. You’re nothing more than a low-life cockroach that feeds in the shadows, but scurries when the lights come on.

One can only hope your values will change as you mature and you’ll become a productive part of society and not the parasite that you are today.


RE: If They Really Want to Stop Them...
By badmoodguy on 4/2/2008 2:35:49 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
stealing

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.


RE: If They Really Want to Stop Them...
By PWNettle on 4/2/2008 2:51:28 PM , Rating: 2
Walking into a store and walking out with something you didn't pay for (that wasn't free, of course) is stealing.

Downloading music, videos, games where the owner isn't giving it away is stealing too.

Stealing intellectual property is no different than stealing physical property.

Stealing intellectual property is currently easier to get away with since it is more difficult to police and enforcement is lacking.

Just because you can get away with being a thief doesn't make you any less of a thief.


By lco45 on 4/3/2008 9:01:37 AM , Rating: 2
You are right, of course, as everyone with an IQ over 100 and a reasonable education knows (at least deep down).

For me the real tempation of torrents is not that it's free, but that it's convenient.

Right now I'm downloading series 1-10 of a UK TV show called "Scrapheap Challenge". They have never released DVDs for this show, so these are files people have recorded on TV then encoded.

The show is fairly niche, so the producers (UK Channel 4) would probably never make money trying to produce and market DVDs of the show (there are some VHS copies of the first few series).

For me to see these shows in any way other than torrenting would be impossible, or at least highly inconvenient.


By OPR8R on 4/2/2008 2:57:21 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.


LOL... Inconceivable!

I keep reading these "Piracy" treads for something new....

I guess I'll check back another time.


By Oregonian2 on 4/2/2008 6:13:15 PM , Rating: 2
Don't torrents just tell you where stuff is in the store, much like those maps that stores have at their entrances? Or maybe I don't understand the concept.


RE: If They Really Want to Stop Them...
By Newspapercrane on 4/2/2008 9:49:01 AM , Rating: 2
And then we can repeal the bill of rights because someone used a gun in a murder.


RE: If They Really Want to Stop Them...
By lco45 on 4/3/2008 9:03:21 AM , Rating: 2
How about keeping the bill of rights and just commenting out the gun bit? Wow, I think I've solved it!

Luke


By aebiv on 4/8/2008 6:04:05 PM , Rating: 2
Because that isn't how the bill of rights was designed. It was designed to stand as one solid set of rights that cannot be changed.

It is because this country was founded on freedom by men who fled the rule of tyrants.

Luke, how about you just live where it is illegal and quit commenting on another countries freedoms.


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