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Microsoft data shows NVIDIA caused bulk of Vista crashes

When Windows Vista first hit market, some driver issues were to be expected as hardware manufacturers moved existing components to the new OS from Windows XP. As is natural for new items, the enthusiast community was among the first to embrace the new operating system.

The incompatibilities were part due to Vista incorporating Microsoft’s DirectX 10 promising better graphics and physics in PC games. At the time, the high-end G80 graphics cards were some of the most popular graphics cards on the market including the NVIDIA 8800 GTS, GTX, and Ultra.

NVIDIA had driver problems with of Vista and DirectX 10 from the get go and delayed their first driver from a December 2006 release to a January 2007 release. Even once the driver hit market, there were wide spread reports of crashes because of NVIDIA drivers.

The problem with reports of buggy drivers is that no one can really tell if the drivers are actually at fault, or if the computer experiencing the driver crash has some other underlying problem contributing to the crash.

As part of the ongoing Vista Capable class action lawsuit, Microsoft released data on exactly what drivers caused the bulk of logged Windows Vista crashes. The number one culprit of Vista crashes related to driver failure was NVIDIA at 28.8%. Microsoft only broke logged crashes out for a few companies including NVIDIA, Intel (8.8%) and ATI (9.3%). Microsoft’s data shows that it was responsible for 17.9% of logged crashes.

The main early adopters of Vista were PC enthusiasts; the hardware of choice for PC enthusiasts at the time was NVIDIA G80 GPUs so it would be natural that more crashes would be logged as caused by a NVIDIA driver. Ars Technica also points out that the Microsoft data doesn’t specify if the crashes logged are from multiple machines or a group of particularly error prone computers experiencing multiple crashes.

DailyTech reported on the original suit being filed in April 2007. The suit alleged that Microsoft knowingly deceived customers with Windows Vista. The suit was given class action status in February 2008.

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RE: Thats It!
By mmntech on 3/26/2008 4:22:50 PM , Rating: 2
Done, done, and done. Linux and the latest ATI drivers don't seem to get along though. I can't get my HD 3850 working properly.

I'm sure Vista works fine for a lot of people but I'm going to wait for it to mature first until I get it. XP gave me a lot of headaches but now it runs rock stable and Vista has nothing to offer me other than DX10.

RE: Thats It!
By HeelyJoe on 3/26/2008 4:36:57 PM , Rating: 2
Did you use Envy to install the drivers? If not, try that.

RE: Thats It!
By howarchaic on 3/26/2008 4:38:25 PM , Rating: 3
Aren't ATI's drivers going opensores?

RE: Thats It!
By freaqie on 3/26/2008 4:50:47 PM , Rating: 2
not really there are omega drivers though

RE: Thats It!
By zshift on 3/26/2008 5:43:43 PM , Rating: 3
i thought omega drivers were for windows only though

RE: Thats It!
By sc3252 on 3/26/08, Rating: -1
RE: Thats It!
By afkrotch on 3/31/2008 1:26:46 PM , Rating: 1
Releasing some of your information and not all of it, is hardly open source. Even then, it's someone else making the drivers, so can you really say that it's AMD/ATI's drivers?

I'm going with, they aren't open source.

RE: Thats It!
By EntreHoras on 3/26/2008 5:00:23 PM , Rating: 5


OMG no thanks!!!

RE: Thats It!
By smitty3268 on 3/26/2008 10:00:49 PM , Rating: 2
They're releasing specs and helping developers create a new open source driver, but they aren't actually releasing their own drivers as open source. So the open ones are still at an early stage with only 2D working. Hopefully they'll be in pretty good shape by the end of the year.

RE: Thats It!
By Golgatha on 3/27/2008 9:22:18 AM , Rating: 4
ATI got the Herpes from AMD when they merged?

Re: opensores

RE: Thats It!
By eye smite on 3/26/2008 6:08:31 PM , Rating: 2
Download DirectX 10 for Windows XP from Alky Project

if that helps people who want dx10 and keep windows xp

RE: Thats It!
By Noliving on 3/26/2008 6:21:13 PM , Rating: 2
Too bad the alky project has been dead for over 6 months. The last update on the news from that group was in august of last year. All they released was an alpha version of a program that allowed windowsvista only games to run on xp like halo2 and shadowrun.

RE: Thats It!
By Noliving on 3/26/2008 6:25:36 PM , Rating: 2
Oh wait I lied, there was an update in january 2008:

Here is the update:

RE: Thats It!
By 9nails on 3/26/2008 7:50:37 PM , Rating: 2
Realistically, Vista only has one good year on it left before Windows 7 is ready to be released. I'm sure like "Windows 98 SE", Windows 7 will be that mature and stable version of Windows Vista with all the promises working properly that you're looking for. I'd say skip this generation of Windows Vista and check back again in a year for the latest news on Windows 7.

RE: Thats It!
By Duwelon on 3/26/2008 8:45:35 PM , Rating: 4
Vista rocks for me. I'm running one of my PC's on XP still but for me getting any new PC without Vista is silly. A decent computer with 2 gigs of RAM with Aero absolutely flies. Vista may take up more resources than XP, but it puts them to very good use.

My only complaints at all with Vista right now, is because i'm willfully running 64 bit and some things just flat up refuse to install.

RE: Thats It!
By JustTom on 3/30/2008 7:45:19 PM , Rating: 2
If MS hits its target date for Win7 as accurately as it did for Vista I am figuring on getting it during the second Clinton presidency. That would be Chelsea not Hillary...

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