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Nautilus Tactical High Energy Laser  (Source: Northrop Grumman)

Effective range of Kassam and Katyusha rockets.  (Source: Koret Communications Ltd.)
Residents in Sderot have had enough of rocket attacks and want the laser-based Nautilus system in place

DailyTech recently discussed the use of military-grade laser used as weapons in a number of articles. Boeing installed a 12,000-pound, high-energy laser into its C-130H Gunship and Northrop Grumman has similar "laser ambitions" with the Guardian anti-missile system installed in an MD-10 cargo jet.

While Americans are typically apathetic to the use of such technology for military duties, some residents in Israel are clamoring to have laser-based weapons as a safety net for their towns. Sderot residents have gone so far as to sue the Israeli government -- more specifically, they named Defense Minister Ehud Barak and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert as defendants in the civil suit.

The Sderot residents want the Israeli government to install the Nautilus Tactical High Energy Laser (THEL) system to protect the region from Kassam and Katyusha rockets. Sderot has been heavily bombarded with such rockets over the years which have resulted in numerous deaths. The residents feel that suing the government may be its only chance for protection against further attacks.

"Israel could bring the system to Sderot and use it to protect the people there from Kassam rockets," said Nitsana Darshan-Leitner who heads the Israel Law Center which represents the Sderot residents. "In 1996, when Israel was under threat from Lebanon, Israel asked the United States to help them establish a system to protect northern settlements from Katyusha rockets. This system, called Nautilus, shot down Katyushas, Kassams and bombs with 100 percent success."

Unfortunately for the Sderot residents, the Nautilus program stalled in 2005 after ten years of development and $400 million USD spent between Israel and the United States. Since that time, rocket fire has increased which has led the Israeli government to develop yet another system dubbed "Iron Dome." The Iron Dome system will cost the government $100,000 for each incoming rocket it destroys – if it destroys them at all. Recent tests show that Iron Dome is incapable of protecting Sderot from incoming Kassam rockets.

"[Nautilus is] just sitting there in New Mexico. There is a way to take it apart, bring it to Israel and rebuild it," Darshan-Leitner continued. "A company told me that it would take no longer than five or six months. It would cost around 50 million dollars to rebuild it, but there would be unlimited protection against Katyushas, Kassams, and bombs."

Despite Darshan-Leitner's optimism of the performance of the Nautilus system -- she quotes an extremely optimistic 100 perfect effective rate -- a spokesman for the Israeli Defense Ministry says that such claims are preposterous. "As long as there was a chance that the results would lead to a functional, effective missile defense system we stuck with the program. But in 2005 the US military backed out of the program because it wasn't working, and we decided to end our involvement as well," said spokesman Shlomo Dror.

Despite the concerns from Sderot residents, Dror tried to express that the government is working hard to provide protection for its citizens.

"There is no way to put a price tag on the trauma caused by living with the ongoing threat from, and even more for people injured or even killed by Kassam attacks, God forbid," said Dror. "We are spending as much as we need to in order to develop the most effective system we can to protect residents of Sderot and the entire western Negev region."



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RE: Peace
By Orbs on 3/13/2008 5:11:06 PM , Rating: 1
Even if you aren't educated on the subject, if you look at the map, you'll see the missiles attacking the area in the north are not coming from anyone who is "occupied". They are coming from Lebanon (and possibly Syria). Those countries, as well as most of the 35+ larger countries neighboring Israel, have very anti-Israeli policy (and have attacked Israel, unprovoked), simply because it's a Jewish state.

Israel is a democracy and all its citizens are treated well (including Christian and Muslim citizens, and Israeli Arabs).

The occupation to which you refer is now only in the West Bank (since Israel voluntarily gave up Gaza, even when the Palestinian authorities were unwilling to even acknowledge such a gesture for peace). The exact makeup of the West Bank is complicated and I admit, I don't fully understand it. For example there are settlements and towns that (to my knowledge) are run by the populations that live there, some of which are mostly populated by Jewish Israelis, some of which are mostly populated by non-Jewish residents. Often towns of different religious makeup are in close proximity to each other.

It really bothers me when people refer to the supposed occupation of land that Israel rightfully controls (due to the results of war waged on and unprovoked by Israel) and when the people living in that land are treated equally (and treated well) regardless of race or religion.

There is a debate about who should rightfully own the land which makes up Israel (including the West Bank). If you follow history, the British owned the land and gave it up. There should be no contention about Israel's status. Sadly if the British had given Israel to anyone other than a Jewish government, I don't believe the violence would have persisted like this.

Religious war still plagues humanity over 4000 years after the old testament.


RE: Peace
By dnd728 on 3/13/2008 6:56:00 PM , Rating: 2
The reason for wars is usually the desire of bad leaderships to channel to rage of people towards someone else and to justify the high taxing and large army actually built to keep them in place. Religion in just a great excuse.
That way, after invading the region in WWI European schools taught Arabs who they should hate and who is invincible, and while at it also forbad Jews from owning any weapons for self defense. Murder of Jews began shortly after. (for other tricks see: Tutsi-Hutu, Sri Lanka...)
When Britain left Arab leaders took it from there, being much more convenient than fighting "the Crusaders" again.
If it wasn't for that it would have simply remained Arabs/Muslims vs. Europe/Christians just like it has been repeatedly before.


RE: Peace
By pxavierperez on 3/14/2008 7:20:30 AM , Rating: 2
hmm, I used to believe the reason for wars is mainly because of land then everything comes in just to support it, like propagandizing: that was our land before and now they took it or from here to Spain was Muslim land so we have to take it back.


RE: Peace
By andrinoaa on 3/14/2008 12:23:20 AM , Rating: 2
The solution is for israel to acknowledge that palestinians were driven out, make restitution and make everyone welcolme. This is the basis for basic justice. It will be cheaper than continuing the "war" for the next 50 yrs.
People can say what they like about israel wants peace, they offered land ...yadda yadda yadda. The reality is whats on the ground. No one who looks around can say its an equal fight. How many palestinians are in Israeli jails? How many palestinians have been driven off their land in the past 10years (let alone 50 yrs ). The evidence is pretty harsh.
Israel a democracy? give me a break. I am a democracy therefore I am right? What kind of shallow arguement is that. I can claim Hamas is democratic too, but is that saying anything? I am starting to get apologetic too.
But as I said earlier, they both deserve each other .I feel they need to get in the ring on an equal footing before this is resolved.


RE: Peace
By pxavierperez on 3/14/2008 7:13:21 AM , Rating: 2
I think Peace in the region would come when Palestine achieved an equal economic status as Israel. Sadly Hamas isn't interested in the number of Palestinian graduates or the lack of.


RE: Peace
By Orbs on 3/14/2008 8:10:40 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
People can say what they like about Israel wants peace, they offered land ...yadda yadda yadda.


Actually, Israel removed its own citizens from Gaza in order to actually give land up. Not offer, but give it up. They had offered it and the Palestinian leaders wouldn't even negotiate, so they proactively took a non-violent step towards peace.

quote:
How many Palestinians are in Israeli jails? How many Palestinians have been driven off their land in the past 10years (let alone 50 yrs ). The evidence is pretty harsh.


Any Palestinians in Israeli jails are there because they committed crimes (just like Israelis in Israeli jails, again regardless of race or religion). It is not a crime to be a Palestinian in Israel, there are many Palistinians that work in Israel and commute to the West Bank or even live in Israel.

If you read the history (or even other posts in this topic), it was not Israel who drove Palestinians from their homes. First of all, Palestine was not a state so there were no 'Palestinians'. There were people of various religious backgrounds living in the region that is now known as Israel.

Anyone driven from their land were driven before Israel became a country and before there was an Israeli government. If the Arab nations that neighbor Israel were truly interested in having their people live there peacefully, they would not have:

a) waged war on Israel before it even officially became a state.

b) denied Arab refugees who were leaving the region the ability to live in their countries (which many Arab nations did).

quote:
Israel a democracy? give me a break. I am a democracy therefore I am right? What kind of shallow argument is that. I can claim Hamas is democratic too, but is that saying anything?

Yes, Israel is democratic and by that I mean they hold real elections in which any Israeli citizen can vote, regardless of race or religion.

If you are saying Israel and Hamas are equivalent, then answer this... how many Jewish or Christian people are allowed to live in the Palestinian, Hamas controlled region that was formerly the Gaza strip? How many non-Muslims would have been allowed to vote in the election that led to Hamas lead the Palestinian Authority?

Hamas fires rockets into the southern Israeli cities and targets civilians and you are equating them to Israel? Israel retaliates, yes, but it does not initiate. When Israel retaliates it strikes military targets, not neighborhoods with homes and schools (I know people that have had rockets land just a few feet from their home in Israel). I assure you, they are not the same.

I'm not saying Israel is perfect. Both sides need to be willing to compromise. History has shown however that Israel is much more willing to give a little for peace than most countries it has had to deal with (Jordan and Egypt being the exceptions).


RE: Peace
By andrinoaa on 3/15/2008 8:39:11 AM , Rating: 1
OK fan boy, you tell me what will bring peace. Not "if he does this I will do that " shit. Thats school yard stuff.
You too missed the point BIG TIME. Stop looking at "historical times". Face up to what has happened in the last 50yrs. I don't give a fuck what moses did, I am interested in what my parents did and what I did.
So, when do the rights of several million people get reduced to nothing? Why are so many people chanting the same silly mantra - the palestinians were not dispossesed. Did they suddenly all decide to leave the land for the jewish settlers? Out of the goodness of their hearts? oh come on , man. This is so blatently unreal, you guys should be ashamed. Who wants to sit in a war zone to protect their land? You guys would be too chicken to do it but you recon the palestinians just said "take it, its yours" ?
Israel willing to compromise? What fairy land are you in.
Their tactic is to say we want peace and then procrastinate, build more settlements, more bombing, slimey divide and conquer politics. They are run by extremists who will never stop trying to gobble up more land. They are ruthless.
The palestinians are just a mirror image of the israelis , yet neither side wants to look in the mirror. So STOP being apologetic for either side, understand the nature of the problem AND the root cause. Give them both "THE BOMB"
ps just reading your spin "arab refugees who were leaving the region" Just by definition you sunk your own lines!
Why do refugees leave a region? You don't suppose they lived there, do you?
Democracy. What a funny term. 30% of your population voted last election, no? Bush scored 50% of that , no? That means he got elected on 15% of the population, no? Doesn't this smell fishy to you? Before you start saying " my democracy ( read , my penis ) is more democratic than yours (is bigger than yours )", define democracy.
Remember, unless a radically different approach is taken, they will still be killing each other in 100yrs.


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