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Samsung was the no. 2 LCD TV manufacturer during Q4 2007.

LCD vs. CRT  (Source: Business Wire)
Report puts Sony LCD TVs as top brand with Samsung a close second

DisplaySearch released a report this week that shows for the first time ever LCD TV shipments outpacing CRT TVs worldwide in Q4 2007. According to the report, global TV shipments grew 21% quarter to quarter and 5% year to year. The total number of TVs shipped was nearly 200 million units worldwide.

2007 was the first year where TV revenues exceeded $100 billion with Q4 2007 revenues alone counting for $32.9 billion of that number. DisplaySearch says that LCD unit share grew worldwide, but the strongest growth in LCD unit share was seen in Europe. Developing nations showed the greatest increase in LCD unit share with Latin America, Asia Pacific, Middle East, and Africa rising a combined 106% year over year.

CRT TV shipments fell from 77% of global TV shipments in Q1 2006 to 46% of global shipments in Q4 2007. LCD made impressive gains against rear projection TVs and Plasma TVs as well.

LCD TV share increased from 44% to 65% year over year while plasma dropped from 40% to 31% and rear projection TV dropped from 16% to 3%. That massive drop in rear projection was no doubt helped by Sony pulling out of the rear projection market in 2007.

DisplaySearch says that Sony was the number one brand of LCD TV in Q4 2007 with 19.5% of the market. Samsung followed in a very close second place with 19.3% of the LCD TV market. Philips was a distant third with 10.1% of the LCD market with Sharp sitting at the same 10.1% share. The fifth place company was LG with 7.7% of the market.



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RE: An extra tidbit
By melgross on 2/20/2008 1:58:54 PM , Rating: 2
I forgot to mention, when comparing to plasma. A 60 inch plasma with 1080p costs more than twice as much, uses more power, is much heavier, and has blacks that aren't as good on really good content.

This also does a pretty good job of upscaling DVD.

They also have smaller models, a 50 and a 58 inch.


RE: An extra tidbit
By phattyboombatty on 2/20/2008 2:52:16 PM , Rating: 2
I'm in total agreement with you on the DLP's. I've never been able to understand why so many people opt for the more expensive and lower quality flat panels. All I can think of is that they are somehow persuaded that "thinner is better." In my experience, very few people that buy a flat panel actually mount them on the walls (and those that do put them in awful viewing locations such as above a fireplace where you have to strain your neck and look up four feet to see the picture). The vast majority of people in my experience stick the panel either in an entertainment cabinet or on top of a stand, where the thinness of the panel provides no practical benefit.

It was a no-brainer for me when I purchased my DLP, because I got a superior picture at a cheaper cost.


RE: An extra tidbit
By mmntech on 2/20/2008 3:08:45 PM , Rating: 2
You brought up the fireplace thing that designers are suggesting. This bugs me to no end since if you actually use it, you stand a good chance of wrecking the TV.

I've got a 40'' CRT based front projection Toshiba HDTV. One of the best TVs I've owned. It's even got quality speakers and a low power sub-woofer built in. Unfortunately, it only handles 1080i but not 720p or 1080p, which most HD content is in these days. I think people like the thinner TVs because even if you aren't mounting it on a wall, they do take up less space. The TV I have is like a piece of furniture and weighs some 200lbs. However, I think the main reason people don't buy DLP is because they're ignorant of it. Most retailers don't push them, instead focusing on LCD and Plasma. People think those are better. That's all that matters in the end, even if it's not true.


RE: An extra tidbit
By semo on 2/20/2008 4:52:30 PM , Rating: 2
here in england i haven't seen a dlp tv in a street shop and it's very hard finding them online too.

if anyone knows a british retailer that sells those samsung dlps, pls share!


RE: An extra tidbit
By Chudilo on 2/20/2008 3:04:33 PM , Rating: 2
First: I bet if you set both sets in a normally lit room (with some filtered or direct sunlight). You'd have some serious difficulty watching this TV.
Second: If you set this set next to a decent Plasma properly with proper cabling and calibrated the colors. This wouldn't be an argument.
All these rear projection sets may look good on paper (bigger brighter, more contrast and so on) But in reality all those specs only matter in tests.
The quality might be similar if you don't sit at exactly a 90 degree angle to the TV vertically and horizontally. and the room is murky at least. So if you're setting up a home theater in your basement,it's great. If you want to use it as a regular TV in your living room, that has more then just a couple of seats directly across the TV, then projection is not an option unless of course you don't care about the Picture quality and color accuracy at all.


RE: An extra tidbit
By phattyboombatty on 2/20/2008 3:18:22 PM , Rating: 2
I'll admit that a properly calibrated Pioneer Elite plasma panel will look awesome and can't be matched by a RPD. But the point made above is that you'd have to pay 3x as much for this panel as you would for a comparably sized DLP.

You don't seem to be making any of your arguments about the quality of DLP sets from personal experience. My first DLP set was placed in a living room opposite a large bay window that let in a lot of sunlight. The tv wasn't "unwatchable" as you assume. Also, as was already mentioned in a previous post, there are no problems with the horizontal viewing angle on a DLP. There are vertical viewing angle issues, but those aren't encountered in any normal television watching positions.


RE: An extra tidbit
By AmbroseAthan on 2/20/2008 3:29:43 PM , Rating: 2
While your counter has some half valid points, it highly overstates the the limits of the newer DLP's.

The biggest oversight you had is cost. Going by Crutchfield, a 58" Plasma (Samsung or Panasonic) is ~$3,500; a 61" DLP (Samsung) is ~$2,400. That is a BIG difference for alot of people. (LCD's 60"+ you are looking at $6,000 or more)

The newer DLP's are plenty bright for well-lit rooms. Yes, if directly compared to a Plasma they are dimmer, but not dim enough to make a bad picture. The picture is still exceptional; I have one in a sun-lit room and it is a much older 42" model.

And with regards to viewing angles, this always boggles my mind on the vertical. Who is watching their TV and looking nearly straight down at it, or laying in front of it looking up from only a couple of feet? If you have a 61" DLP, you will be sitting a good distance away, and the vertical viewing angle will almost never be large at all. With regards to the horizontal, I can see if you have a U-shaped living room and the TV at the top of the U, the people at the edge's of the U will have trouble; but anyone who is sitting with at least a 45 degree angle will be fine. My DLP is setup in the corner of my living room; standing on either wall (so ~45degrees) the picture looks exactly the same as straight on.

Basically; projection is defintiely an option for people who are looking for a larger TV. Is its picture as good as a Plasma or LCD? No. But is its picture still exceptional? YES.


RE: An extra tidbit
By melgross on 2/20/2008 3:45:34 PM , Rating: 2
You are wrong about that. For sure.

My business was color, for many years. I started in fashion photography in 1969, and owned a commercial color lab for 28 years. Color is very important to me.

This model, and I'm not speaking for others, has the best color I've seen in a Tv. Blacks are definitely better than with even the best plasmas.

And you are totally wrong about the horizontal seating. I can move across the entire width of my 16 foot wide living room, where the set is in the middle, and there is NO change. None whatsoever.


RE: An extra tidbit
By Oregonian2 on 2/20/2008 6:48:46 PM , Rating: 2
When I was in the hunt last December, I found both DLP's and LCDs that did very well with left-right viewing angles as well as units that did very very poorly. Depends upon the unit (although with Plasmas, they pretty much all did well in this regard because it's somewhat inherent in the way they're made).

As to comments about price, I'll certainly agree there wholeheartedly. It made me gag in the $4400 I paid for my TH-58PZ750U Plasma at a local dealer (they're on sale now on clearance shelves for less now). And even though I could have gotten it for a few hundred less through an internet shop, I'd still have been gagging -- particularly when compared to the MUCH lower prices of other sets, especially rear projection sets. But I'll be using this set until it breaks seriously (last set, a Sony 32" XBR took 13 years). So I wanted it to be the best I could afford -- I'm going to live with it for a long time. I'm too poor to buy cheap. I buy once and keep it. And at least for me, I bought the best I could for the money I paid, even if I could buy cheaper.

P.S. - An no it's not above a fireplace, that's an ergonomically poor place for TV's to go. Center of the screen is at almost exactly eye-height in our viewing positions. It is on an articulating arm though -- I can easily turn it nearly perpendicular to the wall should I want to access the back wiring or whatever. :-)


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