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HP 2133  (Source: Engadget)
HP's 2133 sub-notebook breaks cover

ASUS's Eee PC took the world and the mobile industry by storm. The tiny, two-pound device features a 7" display, 900MHz Celeron processor, SSD (ranging in size of 2GB to 8GB) and wireless connectivity.

HP is also looking to get into the market with its new 2133 ultra-portable notebook. According to leaked images obtained by Engadget, the 2133 features an 8.9" glossy display (1366x768), 95% full-size keyboard, ExpressCard slot, WLAN and an integrated webcam. An SSD will be optional with the device and will most likely be of the 1.8" variety. Users can choose either Windows Vista or Linux for the operating system.

When it comes to styling, the HP 2133 makes the ASUS Eee PC look rather plain and boring. The 2133 features a smooth, sleek shape and has an exterior made from anodized aluminum. According to HP, the exterior is also free of screws to further emphasis the smooth, clean look.

As is usually the case with leaked information on future products, there is no word on pricing for the new ultra-portable device. Given the features and aluminum body, the 2133 is likely to be priced well above that of the Eee PC which starts at a mere $299. Opting for the SSD is sure to push prices even higher into the stratosphere.

Stay tuned for further details on the HP 2133 as an official announcement is likely just around the corner.



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I want one!
By atwood7fan on 2/19/2008 9:34:04 AM , Rating: 5
If it's not TOO terribly expensive I would like one of these. Nice resolution for such a small screen too.




RE: I want one!
By eye smite on 2/19/2008 10:37:50 AM , Rating: 4
It does look nice, and I'm betting it would be a better system with linux or windows over the macbook air. Who knows........shrugs


RE: I want one!
By Trisagion on 2/19/2008 11:23:56 AM , Rating: 4
The Macbook Air is like a buxom blonde. You drool over the outsides but there's little on the inside.


RE: I want one!
By JoshuaBuss on 2/19/2008 12:24:53 PM , Rating: 3
buxom? the air is too thin to be considered 'buxom' ;)


RE: I want one!
By Omega215D on 2/19/2008 1:52:08 PM , Rating: 3
So it can basically be the Paris Hilton or Nicole Richie of the laptop world.


RE: I want one!
By Artistotle on 2/19/2008 2:39:49 PM , Rating: 3
Except nobody drools over those Paris or Nicole...but to each his own i suppose.


RE: I want one!
By JoshuaBuss on 2/19/2008 11:35:35 AM , Rating: 2
agreed! among all the great things already mentioned, i'm diggin' those beefy looking hinges :)


RE: I want one!
By JoshuaBuss on 2/20/2008 12:43:34 AM , Rating: 2
a chinese site pegged the initial price as low as $300!!


RE: I want one!
By JoshuaBuss on 2/20/2008 1:18:33 AM , Rating: 2
RE: I want one!
By murphyslabrat on 2/20/2008 3:05:34 PM , Rating: 2
Well, it could be. Windows Vista's minimum system requirements aren't that much higher than what the eeePC (in spec) offers. The only discrepancy is in the CPU department, but the CPU is, at stock, a 900MHz CPU...not unthinkable.

So, it is possible that they offer a Celeron 215 or 220 based system, and only ask for a small return. Then again, it could just be another CloudBook.


A shame
By masher2 (blog) on 2/19/2008 12:16:34 PM , Rating: 2
Anyone who makes an ultraportable, then wastes valuable display space by putting a massively wide bezel around the LCD has made a mistake IMO.




RE: A shame
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 2/19/2008 12:29:55 PM , Rating: 4
Tell me this Michael, how do you propose putting in a nearly full-size keyboard with an 8.9" display if you don't add a larger bezel around the display (in this case, taken up by the speakers).

If you shrink down the bezel, you have to deal with a smaller, harder to type on keyboard.

If you increase the screen size to fill up the space, you'll have a more expensive panel that sucks up more power.

Pick your poison :D


RE: A shame
By BladeVenom on 2/19/2008 3:21:27 PM , Rating: 2
How much more expensive would an extra inch of screen really be?


RE: A shame
By VahnTitrio on 2/19/2008 3:23:20 PM , Rating: 2
I always thought either side of the touch pad would be the right place...

Can't tell without pulling it apart but more than likely there is some room there.


RE: A shame
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 2/19/2008 5:22:01 PM , Rating: 2
Are you talking about a place to put the speakers? Yeah, you probably could put them there, but having them flank the display is a functional way to make use of the increased bezel area.

It also gives more room to store the main components in the base of the machine.


RE: A shame
By Kougar on 2/19/2008 4:18:28 PM , Rating: 2
They could probably have made up the difference by switching from Vista only to an XP option.

Even if the two operating systems were matched on battery life, having Vista's Windows Explorer briefly peg one CPU core at 100% every single time you change the folder directory isn't going to do your battery life any favors. SP1 never fixed this either.


RE: A shame
By daftrok on 2/19/2008 5:20:24 PM , Rating: 2
Windows XP is running for pretty cheap right now, especially for college students. Just ask one and I'm sure they can get an installation CD for about 10 bucks and then you can buy an external CD/DVD drive...this is getting pricy, just go with Linux.

I for one would like a 10" 1280x800 LED backlit screen with a 16:9 480p webcam (no real need for 720p) and make it SLIGHTLY bigger to maintain keyboard size. The speakers can be placed in the front of the laptop and not by the screen (either way, people will probably be using headphones for this anyways because its not meant to rock out).

Also it would be great if instead of that trackpad it has the Lenovo red nipple mouse control but I don't know if HP can legally implement that.


RE: A shame
By cheetah2k on 2/20/2008 3:09:26 AM , Rating: 2
I really hope that they have XP on this. 900Mhz just wont cut it with Vista.

I have the Fujitsu U1010 3.5G version, and at 800Mhz with Vista Home Basic, its just too slow. I do like the 3.5G HSDPA as I use it on the road, but I think I should have just bought something slightly bigger, and a CF 3.5G card instead.


RE: A shame
By LazLong on 2/23/2008 7:09:07 AM , Rating: 2
The 'red nipple' is called a TrackPoint by Lenovo nee IBM. IBM developed the technology, but licenses it various manufacturers. It is usually only available on business-class laptops. This is a shame as I love the TrackPoint. Every keyboard I own (both desktop and laptop) has one. I feel it is a must for any real touch-typist, as with the TrackPoint your hands don't have to leave the keys to mouse as they do with a trackpad or regular mouse.


RE: A shame
By JoshuaBuss on 2/19/2008 12:35:58 PM , Rating: 2
while i agree with you, i'm still glad to see manufacturers willing to shave the screen size down to cater toward lower price ranges.

an EEE pc without much of a bezel would cost twice as much, and i'm guessing the air and this hp would both be significantly more with larger screens too.

hey, at least the X300 doesn't waste any space for screen real-estate (but then again it's $2,700) :)


RE: A shame
By Visual on 2/20/2008 6:55:14 AM , Rating: 2
I honestly would rather pay twice as much, but get the larger screen, touchscreen even... multi-touch even...
Wait, are we still talking twice as expensive, or twenty times now?
Anyway, if the battery life doesn't suffer notably from these improvements, I'd probably be willing to pay half of the X300's price.


RE: A shame
By mindless1 on 2/19/2008 1:04:57 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe, but what if they'd made the lid thinner as a result, and needed the border around the LCD for structural rigidity?


I'll take two
By davepermen on 2/19/2008 9:57:27 AM , Rating: 2
This looks lovely. And I love that the keyboard goes till the edge. Lets see it's specs..




RE: I'll take two
By mmntech on 2/19/2008 10:41:17 AM , Rating: 2
Well, it already has some advantages over the EeePC including a proper WXGA display and a 1.8'' mechanical HDD. I'm going to do a bit of speculation and guess it will probably feature an Intel Core 2 Duo U7500 or Core 2 Solo U2100. I'd also say 1gb of DDR2 is it's going to run Vista. The price of the two processors alone will probably push the price well over what the base EeePC sells for. If they can keep the final price around $600 though, I'd say it would be worth it.


RE: I'll take two
By davepermen on 2/19/2008 11:03:01 AM , Rating: 2
I have a 12" hp 2710p tablet, so I guess i know the specs of that device more or less. but yes, that resolution on such a small screen is quite impressive/crazy.

we'll see.

could make a great backup-notebook for my djing stuff.


RE: I'll take two
By UNCjigga on 2/19/2008 11:38:33 AM , Rating: 3
Fat chance of getting this under $600--if it is I'd buy two in a heartbeat. I don't think this is meant to compete against the EeePC, but rather offer a premium alternative.

My guess is that this will be priced between $899-$1499 depending on the configuration.


RE: I'll take two
By UNCjigga on 2/20/2008 11:41:26 AM , Rating: 2
I stand corrected--some websites are reporting that this might be a UMPC vs. subnotebook, and that it might be powered by a VIA chipset. If that's the case, sub-$500 pricing should be doable.


Screen Res too high
By heulenwolf on 2/19/2008 10:59:50 AM , Rating: 2
An 8.9" screen with 1366x768 resolution makes for a comfortable viewing distance of about 16" to my eyes. That's way too hunched over for my use. Even the Vaio TZ series has an 11.1" screen with the same resolution at about a 20% higher dot pitch.




RE: Screen Res too high
By RyanM on 2/19/2008 12:14:04 PM , Rating: 4
Just set the system font size higher. I love super-high res displays because everything looks incredibly sharp and you can have more desktop space to work with.


very nice!
By DeepBlue1975 on 2/19/2008 12:54:17 PM , Rating: 2
Looks really awesome!

The only thing that puzzles me, is the resolution. I think it is too damn high for that screen size, it has even more resolution than most 14" notebooks that only have 1280x800 and small fonts are already small enough there!

I imagine myself looking for a "ultra super sized fonts" options if I were to grab one of these (mostly wishful thinking, I think the price will be too steep and I'll get an EEE PC with 8.9" screen as soon as it comes out, don't have one right now because I don't like so much wasted space around the screen. I'd rather have a 7" screen one in which all the device's size is fit for just a 7" screen and no more than that)




RE: very nice!
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 2/19/2008 1:04:34 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I'd rather have a 7" screen one in which all the device's size is fit for just a 7" screen and no more than that)

If you were to get your wish, the keyboard would be even worse than the keyboard on the Eee PC (and people LOVE to complain about the Eee's keyboard).

Doing a quick measurement on my own Eee PC, taking away all of the blank space around the left/right of the screen and taking into account the space between the keyboard and the edges of the device would take 2.25" away from the already cramped keyboard.

7" screen + no extra bezel space = tiny, cramped, piss poor keyboard that even more people with complain about :-)


RE: very nice!
By DeepBlue1975 on 2/20/2008 8:24:15 AM , Rating: 2
Got your point!

I tend to consider that subjectively as I use to write a lot on my cell phone (no qwerty here), and it's not even a clamshell so it has a really tiny keyboard, and don't do so much word processing after all.

I guess laptops like these could benefit a lot from an implementation of T9 in word processing software, more for the capability of being able to finish the word before you type it completely than anything else (just imagine typing "whe", there appears "re" and you just push space to accept the suggestion).


Uh OH
By Pessimism on 2/20/2008 9:58:38 AM , Rating: 2
Exterior free of screws = snap-together construction = virtually unserviceable without breaking the casing = throwaway design.




RE: Uh OH
By LazLong on 2/24/2008 3:46:55 AM , Rating: 2
Snap-together construction doesn't mean unserviceable; It means you probably have to use a special tool to take it apart if you don't want to damage the case. The Apple Mac Mini is a classic example of this. No external screws. You have to use a specially sharpened spackling knife to pry the case open.

However, you show me one laptop that is easy to service. They are all crammed together in their own unique fragile way that almost always makes it a huge pain in the ass to service anything beyond memory, expansions slots, and keyboard.


Resolution
By chdude3 on 2/19/2008 11:02:20 AM , Rating: 2
FINALLY a resolution better than 800x480.




By psychobriggsy on 2/19/2008 11:22:23 AM , Rating: 2
Please prove me wrong, HP! It's the closest to my ideal EeePC so far.




Hackintosh
By vailr on 2/19/2008 11:33:24 AM , Rating: 2
I can imagine someone installing a hacked version of OSX Leopard on one of these. The MacBook Air has a bigger screen, but also costs over $1700. If HP can price this at under $800, they'll sell them like hotcakes (assuming that the weight is within one lb. of the Mac Book Air). They ought to offer two keyboard versions: Windows or Mac keyboard. Then license the Mac keyboard version laptop to Apple.




By Bigjee on 2/19/2008 2:02:58 PM , Rating: 2
It has a funky looking track pad. Like one person said if it priced under 800 its gonna sell well. I'm gonna hold out a little longer.




Price ...
By deeznuts on 2/19/2008 4:37:50 PM , Rating: 2
I thought I read the other day that HP said the price will be inconsequential, like a handset or something. If they bring this in around $1k or less, and there the very first day!




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