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Wii will stay on top, says Activision

Earlier this week, EA told the media and investors its belief that the Wii would stay on top and that PlayStation 3 would outstrip the Xbox 360 in western market sales throughout 2008.

Although Activision didn’t dispute its competitor’s prediction on the ongoing sales of the Wii, it did put the Xbox 360 ahead of the PlayStation 3 for the year in North America.

Activision revealed during to Q3 earning call that it expects the Wii to sell more than 6 million units, the Xbox 360 to sell 4 to 5 million units, the PS3 somewhere between 3-4 million and the PS2 trailing off at 2 to 3 million.

The games publisher also was pleased to announce record holiday sales, up 80 percent over the previous year with $1.48 billion in sales and $272.2 in profit. Big titles helping to drive Activision’s positive report are Guitar Hero III and Call of Duty 4.

Slated for 2008 will be more games that Activision hopes will bring it another record period. According to Variety, Guitar Hero 4 will hit in the fall, but not before two other spinoffs in spring. The publisher also has the rights to release an adaptation of the upcoming James Bond movie, Quantum of Solace.

With Activision the top publisher in the U.S. in 2007, the company’s next target is to unseat EA in Europe. "That's the low-hanging fruit for us," Activision CEO Bobby Kotick said. "We have No. 1 market share in the U.S. but not Europe, and there's no reason we see why ‘Guitar Hero' shouldn't be the No. 1 product in Europe as well."

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Well Duh
By PAPutzback on 2/8/2008 4:44:26 PM , Rating: 3
I have zero friends with a ps3. Of course I'll buy a unit that I can join my friends with.

RE: Well Duh
By Obsoleet on 2/8/2008 4:49:30 PM , Rating: 3
Yeah that sums it up for a lot of us. I don't have any problem with any of the consoles (we all know most people are fanboys of something or other), but most everyone I know has the 360.
It's just more fun with friends ?

RE: Well Duh
By BansheeX on 2/8/2008 5:14:54 PM , Rating: 5
It's just more fun with friends?

Okay, imagine it's the beginning of 2007 and the PS3 is a year away and one of your friends commits and buys a 360. It's just dominoes from there. In order for you to play online games with him, now his friends are much more inclined to choose the 360. This is why Microsoft was so adamant about sacrificing billions to get out just a year in advance.

RE: Well Duh
By EglsFly on 2/8/2008 5:16:24 PM , Rating: 4
Most everybody I know has a PC.
Sure, some also have an XBox/360, some have PS2/3, others have Nintendo, but most people I know and most posting here have a PC!
I can play COD4, BF2 and other games as such FREE online with my PC. I don't play any games that are going to cost me monthly to play it, like WOW, and the same goes for XBOX live (fees).

RE: Well Duh
By Hydrofirex on 2/8/2008 7:00:24 PM , Rating: 2
I'm with you - add Xfire and you even have a system to track stats, chat with friends, follow them into servers, and many of the other "community" features that consoles now boast. Consoles just make it easier.

COD4 definitely looks and plays infinitely better on PC. Contrary to a previous post I have to say I'm enjoying it now!


RE: Well Duh
By aju on 2/8/2008 6:44:14 PM , Rating: 4
I concur, I have an xbox, xbox 360, and Wii. I only play on the 360. It is stunning on my 52” 1080p LCD TV. I am a software developer, and I don’t know anyone at my office who has a PS3 and only 1 other person with a Wii. However, I know of at least a dozen others at work with xbox 360s. I have watched an xbox 360 and a PS3 side by side at BestBuy and the PS3 had nothing visually on the 360. In fact, the PS3 was very unimpressive.

I have tried the Wii, but I feel like I am playing sesame street games. I guess some people feel that swinging a Wii remote around what makes a game immersive. However, I find games like Oblivion, Gears of War, and Halo 3 are far more immersive to me. Playing games on the Wii that have you killing phony pixilated NPCs or playing various sports against what looks like Jimmy Nutron and his neighbors just does not cut it for me. Not after standing against a Berserker in Gears, the flood in Halo 3, and seeing the fantastic beauty and complexity of the indoor and outdoor environments in Oblivion.
A Wii cannot compare in this field with its standard definition display capabilities and pixilated graphics.

You can play high definition games on a PS3, but why bother when they don’t look any better or maybe even worse. If you have waited this long to buy a console, you might as well buy a 360. They are in stock (unlike the Wii), competitively priced (unlike the PS3) and there is a massive game library to choose from (unlike either the Wii or PS3).

The only way the PS3 could outsell the 360 is if every prospective console buyer lost all common sense. Of course there are those out there who just buy what they are told is cool like all those owning Apple products. Maybe Sony should hire Apple to market their products.

RE: Well Duh
By Hydrofirex on 2/8/2008 7:02:40 PM , Rating: 2
If you like the environments in Oblivion you should play the Witcher. It's not as free-roaming, but the world is still more immersing and beautiful. It's the best RPG I've personally played since FF3 on the SNES.


RE: Well Duh
By troublesome08 on 2/8/2008 8:01:18 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed. Great game (so far). I'm about half way through, it looks fantastic, especially with everything cranked up!

And also to respond on topic, I noticed alot of people saying that most of the people they know own 360s. I on the other hand have noticed completely the opposite in my circle. Other than myself, no one has bought a 360 in the last year, only PS3s, I think about 5 or 6 of them now.

Seems mostly related to the 360s reliability issues (i've been through 3)

RE: Well Duh
By Noya on 2/8/08, Rating: 0
RE: Well Duh
By SlyNine on 2/8/08, Rating: -1
RE: Well Duh
By SlyNine on 2/8/2008 10:52:30 PM , Rating: 1
Im a PC guy though so I could really care less. The biggest problem with the 360 is the fualty units.

If it would have released with a Harddrive on all system, And if they could have prevented all these RROD problems. Then I'd say the PS3 wouldnt even come close. But as it stands MS made Sony's job a whole lot easier.

RE: Well Duh
By someguy123 on 2/9/2008 12:33:25 AM , Rating: 4
actually its not 1080p or even 720p native, its run at an awkward 1136x640 so that they could have two buffers for high and low dynamic range.

the 360 elite(other systems as well?) upscales it to 1080p.

RE: Well Duh
By SlyNine on 2/9/2008 2:56:07 AM , Rating: 2
Wow thats pretty messed up of them , Since they have been touting ture 1080P. Glad I have a PC.

RE: Well Duh
By porkpie on 2/9/2008 11:34:31 PM , Rating: 3
Whats "messed up" is people focusing on numbers instead of how a game actually looks. If you need someone to tell you a game isn't 1080p, then what does it really matter?

RE: Well Duh
By SlyNine on 2/11/2008 3:47:45 AM , Rating: 2
That may be a good point to some extent. But I get the feeling that a lot of Xbox360 games are a lower res then advertised just by looking, I was just going on what MS was saying.

RE: Well Duh
By Aikouka on 2/11/2008 8:39:38 AM , Rating: 2
Only a handful of games have been advertised as outputting true 1080p rather than being upscaled by the 360's hardware scaler. Some basketball game and I believe Sega's last Tennis game are two that I recall. Some others that follow it more might know a couple more titles.

RE: Well Duh
By walk2k on 2/9/2008 12:12:46 PM , Rating: 4
no games are 1080p on the 360, the max is 1280x720 and the elites upscale.

to be fair, few games are 1080p on the PS3 either, most are 720p. but at least there are some and likely will be more in the future as coders get a clue about how to program for it.

RE: Well Duh
By DingieM on 2/11/2008 5:56:01 AM , Rating: 2
There are some true 1080p games on the Xbox360, reportedly begin Virtua Tennis 3 and Pirates of the caribian...
If I'm not mistaken...

RE: Well Duh
By BansheeX on 2/9/2008 2:45:34 AM , Rating: 3
You can play high definition games on a PS3, but why bother when they don’t look any better or maybe even worse.

Probably because it has many additional and desirable attributes not available on the 360:

-its netplay is free while the 360's is fee-based
-it's much quieter while gaming because games use the slower-spinning/higher-density blu-ray drive
-its well built and has a much lower risk of failure
-it has high definition movie playback at no additional purchase
-it's capable of linux and folding@home for emulation and basic PC tasks
-it has wi-fi connectivity
-it will take any 2.5" hard drive upgrade while MS forces you to buy their own
-mouse/keyboard support is available for many FPS games while MS refused to cannibalize their PC platform

The only way the PS3 could outsell the 360 is if every prospective console buyer lost all common sense. Of course there are those out there who just buy what they are told is cool like all those owning Apple products. Maybe Sony should hire Apple to market their products.

Or people just see the PS3 as a more complete product and don't want to get nickle-dimed to death. Trust me, the PS3 has always been the more desirable product, it's simply that many people couldn't wait or weren't willing to pay for the initially ridiculous price. Considering this years game lineup and the PS3's inevitable cut to $300, most analysts are predicting the PS3 to outsell the 360 from here on out. I'm not sure what Activision is smoking.

RE: Well Duh
By kelmon on 2/9/2008 5:31:31 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, I'd agree with that. I went with the Wii because it was cheap and the games were different but if I had to choose between the PS3 and 360 then I'd go with the PS3. The reason for this is simply that the 360 hardware and overall quality is, frankly, rubbish and I have no intention of buying something with such a high probability of failure. As I've noted before in other articles, it was quite clear that Microsoft simply wanted to get a product out before the PS3 arrived in order to capture a significant portion of the market early. Congratulations to them - they succeeded in achieving the goal and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they "won" this round. But I will never buy a 360 because they sacrificed quality for speed and while the PS3 is still damned expensive, at least it feels like a luxury product for the money.

RE: Well Duh
By sxr7171 on 2/9/2008 6:31:51 AM , Rating: 2
You make a good point, the 360 only has a lead since Sony messed up on pricing. MS needs to reminded of this because they seem to think they are doing well because they made a better console. They do have a MUCH better online implementation but that's all. Otherwise they are the lesser of two evils, and if they don't give up their nickel and diming, they will be put back in their place very quickly. They have a chance to utterly and completely dominate if only they can pull their heads out of their collective asses.

RE: Well Duh
By 777 on 2/9/2008 7:12:30 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not sure what Activision is smoking.

Thanks for the good laugh and thanks for pointing out all the obvious facts about the PS3 that the 360 fanboys don't seem to realize! In the long run the PS3 is by far the better console and I have read the game developers are just starting to know how and tap into the potential for making games for PS3 for a awesome exp. Grand Turismo 5 is the most realistic game I have ever seen, I haven't seen anything close to that on the 360.

Considering this years game lineup and the PS3's inevitable cut to $300

Do you know if the PS3 will really drop to $300? Because my son and I are probably going to purchase the PS3 sometime this year and I sure would love to save $100.


RE: Well Duh
By Farfignewton on 2/10/2008 4:14:46 PM , Rating: 2
Do you know if the PS3 will really drop to $300?

I guarantee it will drop to $200... eventually . I think $300 anytime this year is a bit unlikely, they've been taking a major bath on the hardware from day one. At an estimated cost to manufacture of $400 (for $400 model), they're still taking at least a quick shower. However, I'd be surprised if they didn't knock of $50 by Christmas.

RE: Well Duh
By BansheeX on 2/10/2008 11:52:45 PM , Rating: 2
I am going to predict a $50 drop at the end of spring when the RSX is shrunk to 65nm. Then I expect another $50 drop before xmas when the cell is shrunk to 45nm. Take these predictions with a grain of salt, but I've been right so far.

RE: Well Duh
By driven2excell on 2/9/2008 5:10:10 PM , Rating: 2
WELL, to the contrary to what "aju" says there are games that look superb,take NINJA GAIDEN SIGMA,it hasnt came to the xbox 360 yet(NINJA GAIDEN 2 coming soon to the 360) Its graphics are superb,as well as MOTORSTORM and GRAW2,there are alot of games available to play now on the PS3 like WARHAWK,UNREAL T 3,HEAVENLY SWORD-all exclusive to PS3.HE probably hasnt played these games because he sounds bias to Microsoft. BUT HALO 3 looks great though and some more games.The time is now to get a PS3 because MGS4 is coming 6/08,KILLZONE 2 -9/08,FF new coming DEC 08,and RESISTANCE 2-11/08.Till then go to gamestop or to find a game u like because most of the mult. platform games out now that are next-gen are available.The price for a PS3 IS COMPETIVELY priced! Because if you have a computer at home and someone is using it,you can use your ps3 and check your emails or visit other websites using the built in web browser,it has 2 times more memory than the 360hardrive, PS3 has a blu-ray-ENOUGH SAID!

RE: Well Duh
By xer0 on 2/10/2008 10:31:32 PM , Rating: 2
Uh, Sigma is a port + few addons of Ninja Gaiden Black, which is an expanded version of Ninja Gaiden, which came out for Xbox 1 years ago. Fanboy much?

RE: Well Duh
By sxr7171 on 2/9/2008 6:23:04 AM , Rating: 3
RE: Well Duh
By Spyvie on 2/8/2008 5:19:25 PM , Rating: 2
I have one friend with a PS3, but he's kind of a doofus. When I finally made it over to his place to check out his new toy, I couldn't get over how crappy the graphics looked on his older HD rear projection set. After a brief investigation (the first time I had ever played with a PS3's menus) I discovered that the console was set to output 480i, and was being stretched by the TV to fill the 16:9 screen. Of course the graphics improved considerably when I upped the resolution to 720p...

This has been the sum total of my experience with PS# owners. :)

RE: Well Duh
By Farfignewton on 2/10/2008 4:25:14 PM , Rating: 2
I discovered that the console was set to output 480i,

I actually didn't know 480i was possible. But it could have been worse. I had to temporarily set mine to composite-out on a 62" screen. Damn, that was UGLY . :D

RE: Well Duh
By DarkPrime on 2/8/2008 6:37:15 PM , Rating: 2
I have 6 friends with a PS3, 2 with a Wii, and 1 with a 360.

RE: Well Duh
By zaki on 2/8/2008 8:57:58 PM , Rating: 2
that just means you dont have enough friends...jk

yes its sad but this is a main factor for console sales, since so many people already have 360s, buying a ps3 is like isolating yourself.

RE: Well Duh
By Aloonatic on 2/9/2008 7:31:22 AM , Rating: 2
Or friends with enough money, only joking.

Out of my friends only 1 has a 360, I have a PS3, most don't have either, so maybe my friends are really poor???

People tend to follow the herd. If their friends buy something they are more likely too.

I bought a PS3, my other friend who's into gaming bought a 360.

Personally I prefer playing on his 360. The controller's better, the Live system works better and the achievements add an extra something to the games that the PS3 doesn't have.

If I didn't have to pay for live I mite consider getting a 360, but that constant dipping into my wallet is just too annoying. A console is a one off purchase for me, then games and extra controllers as required.

PS3 is a handy BD player tho, I know one friend who's bought a PS3 for this, but I won't include it in the gaming count.

MS's decision to rush out a half baked console has paid off, well done whoever made that decision.

RE: Well Duh
By mars777 on 2/9/2008 2:00:23 PM , Rating: 2
I have zero friends with a ps3. Of course I'll buy a unit that I can join my friends with.

You're living in the US, am I right? :)

RE: Well Duh
By Locutus465 on 2/9/2008 6:09:53 PM , Rating: 2
Personally, I already have a Wii and 360 so if I buy a console this year it'll be a PS3 by default. Though when I do make the purchase chances are (if things go the way they look to be) I won't be helping out Sony's sales numbers one iota.

If I get a PS3 I'm going to require PS2 BC, which mean's probalby I'll get a 60 or 80GB version.

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