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Microsoft releases Vista SP1 to manufacturing

With roughly a year under its belt in the consumer space, it's time for Vista to get a tune-up. As was the case with Windows 2000 and Windows XP before it, that tune-up comes in the form of Service Pack 1 (SP1).

Microsoft took great strides to improve application compatibility, driver support, security and reliability with SP1. Other improvements include 50% faster file copying and faster resume speeds.

Microsoft issued a steady stream of beta and release candidate (RC) versions of Vista SP1 over the past six months, but today Microsoft is finally putting its gold seal on the RTM version of Vista SP1. Although SP1 went gold today, it will not be available until March.

SP1 will first be available in five languages (English, French, Spanish, German and Japanese) from either Windows Update or a as a direct download from Microsoft.com. Users who are running systems with problematic drivers will not be offered the SP1 download via Windows Update according to Mike Nash, Microsoft’s Corporate VP of Windows Product Management.

The next phase of the SP1 roll-out will begin in April. “We will begin delivering Windows Vista SP1 to Windows Vista customers who have chosen to have updates downloaded automatically.  That said, any system that Windows Update determines has a driver known to not update successfully will not get SP1 automatically,” said Nash.  “As updates for these drivers become available, they will be installed automatically by Windows Update, which will unblock these systems from getting Service Pack 1.  The result is that more and more systems will automatically get SP1, but only when we are confident they will have a good experience.”

Windows Vista was released to manufacturing on November 30, 2006. Microsoft then followed up with a consumer launch on January 30, 2007. The operating system hasn't exactly won over as many people as Microsoft would like, but sales of Microsoft's latest consumer operating system remain brisk.

The steady sales are due in part to strong sales of notebooks and desktop PCs which more often than not come pre-loaded with Vista.



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Synopsis of comments to come
By Aloonatic on 2/4/2008 10:51:13 AM , Rating: 5
Vista is a rubbish waste of money created by the evil M$ to make more money and it doesn't work half the time and is totally unnecessary, I'll stick with XP.

Vista is brilliant and if you can't make it work all the time you are a moron. I have never had any problems because I am a computing genius and therefore, you are a Muppet.

Truth, somewhere in between.




RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By nerdboy on 2/4/08, Rating: 0
By divided421 on 2/4/2008 11:05:24 AM , Rating: 4
I guess you missed the sarcasm.


By retrospooty on 2/4/2008 11:10:37 AM , Rating: 5
I guess alunatic called that one...

Did you read the whole post or just the first sentence?


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By Ringold on 2/4/08, Rating: -1
RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By jtesoro on 2/6/2008 4:59:34 AM , Rating: 1
Hey Mom, you still haven't crashed Vista? You really should email harder, you know. And when browsing, you gotta browse to the limit! Come on now, browse browse browse! I know you can do it! Email again Mom! Again! Again! Try harder!!!


By Blight AC on 2/6/2008 10:31:45 AM , Rating: 2
Everybody to the limit... come on Fhqwhgads.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-WTbGupxbk


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By Shark Tek on 2/4/08, Rating: -1
RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By nwrigley on 2/4/2008 12:55:15 PM , Rating: 5
Actually, with pre-fetch, Vista can be faster on a newer system with plenty of ram. I have 4 gigs and Photoshop loads as fast as FireFox for me now. For systems without much ram, pre-fetch doesn't help and it makes no difference.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By AnnihilatorX on 2/4/2008 1:36:41 PM , Rating: 2
Indeed. After using Vista with my 4GB Ram system for 3 months now, it's indeed faster than XP

Also, I admit Vista requires heck of a work to get it work right, most of the problems are driver and software compatibility problems.
But once you get it up and running, there are a lot of improvements in Vista I am happy about, like the instant start bar search and launch, and document preview panel.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By AnnihilatorX on 2/4/08, Rating: -1
RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By Oroka on 2/4/2008 2:15:00 PM , Rating: 5
Yeah... that could be still said about XP, or any OS for that matter. Often, the problem occurs between the chair and the keyboard.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By TomZ on 2/4/2008 1:44:40 PM , Rating: 1
As they say, "your mileage may vary." On neraly all the machines I installed Vista on, installation was little more than putting in a bootable DVD and letting it run its course. I even found with Vista no need to download and install drivers, since Windows Update did that for me automatically after setup. Installation, at least for me, was easier and faster on all my machines than is/was Win XP.

I only had one install issue with Vista - a BIOS compability problem - that forced me to pre-load a HDD driver during setup. Even that was easy since Vista can pull drivers off of USB flash drives.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By Clauzii on 2/4/2008 2:03:47 PM , Rating: 2
Can You use all 4 GB?


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By Oroka on 2/4/2008 2:17:07 PM , Rating: 2
If he has a 64bit version of Vista he can. I am regretting buying a 32bit copy of Vista Ultimate to this very day.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By Future145 on 2/4/2008 2:56:09 PM , Rating: 2
i thought ultimate comes with both x86 and x64. Unless i heard wrong.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By inighthawki on 2/4/2008 3:25:24 PM , Rating: 2
not in OEM version, which i assume is what he got.


By 80Morphine on 2/5/2008 2:56:06 AM , Rating: 2
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/orderme...

I don't think the decision of which bit version to get is always set in stone, as this link shows.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By FITCamaro on 2/4/2008 3:25:48 PM , Rating: 2
You heard wrong since you either buy the 32-bit or 64-bit version. My friend got the 64-bit version.

I don't know why anyone would get the 32-bit version of Vista.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By TomZ on 2/4/2008 4:01:29 PM , Rating: 2
Because it's easier to get drivers for all kinds of devices for 32-bit Vista, especially considering you can jam in XP drivers for nearly everything, if necessary. Also, 64-bit has relatively more app compatibility concerns than 32-bit.

And of course, not everyone's hardware is even 64-bit compatible. :o) We've got a bunch of 2.4-2.8GHz P4's here in the office that are just fine for running Vista, but are lacking support for the 64-bit instruction set.

All that said, I agree with you that folks should be choosing 64-bit for new machines.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By FITCamaro on 2/4/2008 4:08:10 PM , Rating: 3
Your office is actually running Vista? I wouldn't mind it here but a) we'd need more RAM and b) there isn't a chance in hell IT would roll it out at the moment. All the new machines coming in have Vista on them but thats getting wiped for an XP image.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By TomZ on 2/4/2008 4:30:21 PM , Rating: 1
We're a small shop, and we've been on Vista for more than 1 year now. Sometimes working for a small company is nice. :o)

P.s. - We're upgrading our servers to Windows Server 2008 later this month.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By phreaqe on 2/5/2008 10:22:34 AM , Rating: 2
ditto. we have had vista since launch. we already have server 2008 on a free server from microsoft for beta testing. server 2008 is pretty sweet. its nice bing in a small company and being able to be cutting edge because we dont have to deal with all the stupid crap big companies deal with.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By Locutus465 on 2/4/2008 4:10:24 PM , Rating: 2
Unfortunetly if you're buying a "big box" machine like my HP chances are you're getting 32b preloaded, and switching up to 64b just isn't worth the pain you'll have to go through. I really wish big OEM's would switch to 64b version.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By leexgx on 2/4/2008 9:07:31 PM , Rating: 3
the Key you get with Vista will work with 32 and 64 bit OEM disks

all you need is Any OEM 32 or 64 disk
ignore what OS ver it says {basic/prem/ultimat} on the disk
as all of them are on the same disk and an valid vista key (it asks you what ver of vista you want to install so you pick the one your key says)

just download (not the OEM Dell patched one unless you reload windows alot its better as you can only activate windows so many times) or get an vista 64 disk off some one


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By jtesoro on 2/5/2008 2:03:47 AM , Rating: 2
Any easy way to upgrade though? Assuming one is able to get a 64bit OEM disk and having a 32bit OEM key already activated on a particular machine, do you have to reinstall the OS on it and deal with MS via a support call?


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By leexgx on 2/5/2008 11:09:05 AM , Rating: 3
it should activate right away as the Key that you see on the PC case is Not what OEM retail pcs use (thay have Pre activated images that thay load on to each pc as it take alot longer to build the pcs if thay had to activated each pc)


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By jtesoro on 2/6/2008 4:53:23 AM , Rating: 2
Good info, but I wasn't able to mention that I installed and activated a 32-bit OEM key from a Vista package that I bought separately from a PC I built. What are my chances?


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By leexgx on 2/7/2008 3:09:03 PM , Rating: 2
the way thay activate should be the same as its the same PC so the HW id will be the same, you can allways ring the automated service and folow the promts (don't go pressing one every time as thay are there to catch you out) if that fails you get put tho to USA or india.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By giantpandaman2 on 2/4/2008 5:40:10 PM , Rating: 2
I bought the boxed version of Ultimate.

It came with both 32 and 64-bit.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By leexgx on 2/4/2008 9:16:59 PM , Rating: 2
no one in there right mind would buy an retail copy of vista Ultimate, id be expecting an pc to come with it as well


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By giantpandaman2 on 2/5/2008 4:57:32 AM , Rating: 2
A) I bought it from the Microsoft Corporate Store for cheap.

B) You don't think MS knows that you're using a key for a version you don't have? Have fun when your computer is gimped.

C) You make your old English teachers cry. :)


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By leexgx on 2/5/2008 11:04:27 AM , Rating: 2
the Key Is for 32 and 64 no if or buts thats fact, just that Oem only get the 32 disk or the 64 one when you buy it, just pick up any OEM 32/64 vista disk (not product recovery disks) as thay are all the same disk and install

the Key will only work if it match's the product you pick on install so its legit

the price you got it for was most likely good then

did not see any spelling mistakes that time round?


By VahnTitrio on 2/4/2008 5:22:04 PM , Rating: 3
When I rebuilt my system I put Vista Ultimate on it, but stuck with a more modest 2GB of RAM. Photoshop CS3 loaded in 5 seconds and I thought "Awesome, but now I can't run and grab a snack while I'm waiting for it to load anymore." Used to take 45 seconds on my older XP system (it still had 2 GB of RAM towards the end of it's life).


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By Samus on 2/4/2008 5:27:07 PM , Rating: 3
Sure, Vista boots and hibernates in/out faster, but it shuts down slower and overall performance, even in games for XP, is degraded across equivilently spec PC's.

The other killer problem with Vista is its insane memory requirement to use it as a 'basic' office PC. XP does great with 512MB-1024MB for most office tasks. Vista required no less than 2048MB to perform admirably in the same tasks, such as Excel files and general internet surfing.

Without double the RAM of XP, Vista just thrashes your hard disk. But it's hard to argue that point when 2GB RAM is <$100.


By Locutus465 on 2/4/2008 5:33:58 PM , Rating: 3
The same could be said of Windows XP as compared to Windows 2000 back in the day, so I don't expect this to a much bigger issue for Vista than it was for XP. Taking into account the fact that 2GB of memory for my HP laptop (DDR2) ran me $50...

Game performace issues are driver related, but with a decent rig you'll only expereince a minor frame rate drop. I don't notice the difference in Doom 3/Quake 4 and the like on my rig which is a:

Athlon 64X2 3800+ (OCed to 2.6GHz)
2GB DDR 400
GeForce 7800GT

Basically I have no problems with anything other than the latest and greatest DX10 shooters which would require me upgrading to a Geforce 8 series.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By TomZ on 2/4/2008 5:35:54 PM , Rating: 2
In my experience, 1GB is plenty to run Vista for office work and Internet. I mentioned in another post that all our machines in our office are running Vista, and most of them only have 1GB, and that doesn't cause any performance issues relative to XP.

I will agree, however, that 512MB is a bit low for Vista. I had an older laptop, a 850MHz w/512MB that didn't run Vista well, although it ran XP fine. That machine is retired now. :o)


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By leexgx on 2/4/2008 9:14:45 PM , Rating: 2
i only sell my pcs with 2gb ram its to easy to run out of ram on 1gb systems, 512mb systems vista is an joke even XP with 256mb ram is still useable

superfetch Needs tweeking so when Programs Want disk access Superfetch should Back off and Stop messing with the hard disk as hard disks are very slow at random access

gameing systems are still XP tho


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By phreaqe on 2/5/2008 10:28:52 AM , Rating: 2
you dont have a clue what you are talking about. vista is perfectly fine with 1 gig for basic office work. it even worked ok with 512 as long as you did not have to much stuff open. but you do not need 2 gigs for basic office work. stop spreading the FUD. 2 gigs is better, its all i would run on my personal computer, but for office work you are very wrong.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By napalmjack on 2/4/2008 11:20:22 AM , Rating: 1
Not sure why you keep getting rated down.
Maybe you should have closed with one of those /sarcasm things, for those among us who are "special".


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By Aloonatic on 2/4/2008 11:41:22 AM , Rating: 2
Duly noted :)

Fortunately, after a rocky start where my comment nose dived to a -1 rating, sanity has prevailed.

My fiendish plan was to get all the negative and pointless Vista vs XP comments trapped in one comment thread like slimer, trapped between two streams protons of from a pair of Ghost Buster's proton packs of pure common sense.

I still have my fingers crossed for great success.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By Trogdor on 2/4/2008 11:52:21 AM , Rating: 2
I dunno, I thought the post was excellent. You just happened to get hit by the great intellectuals who apparently can summarize an entire post by only reading the first few words.

You know... the same type who wrote those heart wrenching book reports in elementary school after only reading the description of the story on the back of the novel!


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By TomZ on 2/4/08, Rating: 0
By napalmjack on 2/4/2008 12:26:47 PM , Rating: 2
Intelligence is in the eye of the beholder, and on these blogs, I behold not.


By wordsworm on 2/4/2008 12:22:33 PM , Rating: 2
I thought about the whole '/sarcasm' bit that seems to be floating around and realized it only saves the morons from embarrassment and patronizes people who are able to read.


By Donkeyshins on 2/4/2008 2:07:35 PM , Rating: 5
Dude.

Don't cross the streams.


By omnicronx on 2/4/2008 11:58:15 AM , Rating: 3
Great post, both have their advantages and their disadvantages, and neither OS is perfect. It's just too bad eventually you will not have a choice, as eventually XP support will be dropped, whether you like it or not.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By Yawgm0th on 2/4/2008 12:24:59 PM , Rating: 2
6, no question


By StillPimpin on 2/4/2008 1:29:39 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
6, no question


Absolutely! Someone at DT please give this post a six.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By Locutus465 on 2/4/2008 4:06:48 PM , Rating: 1
Have you even run vista? I run 64bit on my desktop and 32bit on my laptop (both ultimate version) and I'm not having any major vista problems. On the laptop the GUI can be a bit slow due to a cheap video card (gForce go 7150M) but on my desktop everything is snappy (uses gForce 7800GT).


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By FITCamaro on 2/4/2008 4:20:16 PM , Rating: 2
Common sense would dictate that one would read at least a few of the posts under the original posts.

Thank you for proving most people lack common sense.


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By Locutus465 on 2/4/2008 5:22:25 PM , Rating: 2
Hmmm, I posted this to Aloonatic and at no point do I see a post by this person stating "I tried vista out for xxx amount of time... Could you provide the post in this thread where Aloonatic says he's ever run vista?


By Locutus465 on 2/4/2008 5:42:01 PM , Rating: 2
FIT?


By Steve Guilliot on 2/4/2008 5:49:37 PM , Rating: 2
wow.
I think you missed the /sarcasm part. See the title of his post?


By Aloonatic on 2/5/2008 4:24:26 AM , Rating: 2
For the record;

I have tried Vista in Beta (so many versions of the beta), in full release version (pre-installed on a few new machines hat have been bought by my work) and in SP1 RC on a machine at work that was lazing about doing nothing.

Opinion:

Some of the new features are pretty good. The interface is nice, the aero thing negated by my peeps at work as they insist on applying the win2000 theme (which they did with xp) but the link short cuts in file explorer have been gratefully received.

Problems I've had, file copying (which most people know about) printer service needing to be restarted (on my bosses Sony Vaio laptop, which is frankly rubbish, what happened Sony?) and problems with updates not updating properly???

Nothing major, until I installed SP1 (public) RC on the spare machine which then refused to re-boot. It was a RC tho, so I won't hold that against Vista. I reinstalled from the recovery partition and installed the SP1 RC again and it's worked fine.

When I build my new machine I will have no problem with buying an OEM of Vista Ultimate, probably 64 (not tried that yet, had fun with XP 64 once and was slightly put off of 64bit by that) but I can wait until SP1 comes out 1 think.

My post was meant to be a) slightly amusing and b) a trap for people who insist on filling the message board with the same nonsense article after article after article so that we can roll up this one thread and read other more interesting comments.

Essentially I started this thread so that it could be ignored???


RE: Synopsis of comments to come
By del on 2/10/2008 4:44:25 PM , Rating: 2
Somewhere in between is right. I think Vista is okay. My main issues are that drivers for a not-so-old Dell printer that are supposedly Vista 32-bit drivers don't work (and therefore I can't print to/from the Vista PC), the "fast" Windows Search service uses up a lot of memory addresses and causes the hard disk to thrash (I simply turned off indexing as a workaround) and the PC freezes up after a while... (that last issue has been fixed, I'm assuming the PC downloaded a 'hotfix' from Automatic Updates)

Minor issues are that the UI seems a little sluggish on a not-so-fast PC; after running a CPU-intensive task for a while, the keyboard starts to lose functionality; sharing files is like pulling teeth... Everyone else I know loves it better than XP, they can get everything they have to work with it, etc; Vista doesn't flip my pancakes like XP did. I am hoping that Service Pack 1 will fix the printing issue and the Windows Search... if not, then I'll try to install XP on it... if that doesn't work, then I'm going to cry. :'(


Will the old version go on sale?
By wingless on 2/4/2008 10:50:26 AM , Rating: 2
I wonder if the old, non-SP1 version will go on sale now. I sure would like to buy Ultimate for under $300!




By Ixion on 2/4/2008 10:56:43 AM , Rating: 2
Buy an OEM copy. It's £110 here in the UK, use the change from your $300 to buy a new hdd to put it on and make it legit!


RE: Will the old version go on sale?
By drebo on 2/4/2008 11:02:53 AM , Rating: 2
No. Typically, what will happen is that OEMs, retailers, and wholesalers will have already stopped purchasing new copies of Vista and those will sell out at normal prices in anticipation of the new version. The good ones can have it planned to the day.


RE: Will the old version go on sale?
By zolo111 on 2/4/2008 11:39:29 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
No. Typically, what will happen is that OEMs, retailers, and wholesalers will have already stopped purchasing new copies of Vista and those will sell out at normal prices in anticipation of the new version. The good ones can have it planned to the day.


Yeah, but who'd buy the pre-SP1 DVD's for normal price, if SP1 is around the corner?


RE: Will the old version go on sale?
By wien on 2/4/2008 11:50:40 AM , Rating: 2
You get SP1 through Windows Update either way, so what's the difference?


RE: Will the old version go on sale?
By zolo111 on 2/4/2008 12:01:49 PM , Rating: 2
You woun't need to download SP1, since it's gonna be integrated in the DVD. Or at least this's how I think it works. I mean when you buy a vista dvd on March, it's gonna have SP1 preinstalled so it'll save the hassle of having to download it every time you reinstall windows, so those vista DVD's they're selling now in B&M & online stores should go on sale for this reason. At least I hope so :)


RE: Will the old version go on sale?
By wien on 2/4/2008 12:22:34 PM , Rating: 2
You can always slip-stream SP1 into your existing Vista DVD. Anyway, I see where you're coming from but I'm not sure if preventing a lengthy download is enough to warrant a (noticeable) price drop. You get eventually end up with the same software through either route.


RE: Will the old version go on sale?
By leexgx on 2/5/2008 11:11:33 AM , Rating: 2
MS says thay will not alow that to happen


RE: Will the old version go on sale?
By wien on 2/5/2008 2:45:19 PM , Rating: 2
They will not allow what to happen?


By Lifted on 2/4/2008 12:25:55 PM , Rating: 2
Unless microsoft is moving backwards they'll have a procedure for slipstreaming a blank dvd into a full Vista SP1 installation disk. You just need to have your Vista dvd and an unpacked SP1 download, then your good to go.


By maverick85wd on 2/4/2008 1:21:28 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Yeah, but who'd buy the pre-SP1 DVD's for normal price, if SP1 is around the corner?


I would say everyone that doesn't know there is a Service Pack release right around the corner. Realize that most people don't spend part of their day reading up on the tech world because they really don't care that much. They go to the store, see the new OS, and buy it because they want to upgrade. They have no idea a service pack is even about to be released because they don't keep up with such things. And even if they did, they may want to upgrade right now not in a month and since SP1 will be available for download to all Vista users it really doesn't matter anyway.


Why not.
By protest the hero on 2/4/2008 11:44:16 AM , Rating: 4
Can't honestly think of much to fix that hasn't already been via windows update. I've had good luck with it so far, and my only blue screens have come from driver issues, or OC instability.

I'll still download it, but I'm not really expecting a huge difference.




RE: Why not.
By Griswold on 2/4/2008 1:07:36 PM , Rating: 2
The main purpose of this SP is to lift it to the same code base as server 2008 (hence the "coincidence" that both reported RTM on the same day) - which will make patch management easier for MS.

And while they were at it, they obviously tweaked "some" lines of code here and there, added fixes that arent urgent enough to distribute them via windows update beforehand and changed some stuff around completely, like the ever so much touted changes in punishment when you use an unauthorized copy or fall victim to a glitch on MS' end that wrongfully marks you as a thief and thus renders your vista pretty much useless (the way it works now) until you're able to sort it out with their tech support.

I'm looking forward to it.


RE: Why not.
By imperator3733 on 2/4/2008 7:31:59 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The main purpose of this SP is to lift it to the same code base as server 2008 (hence the "coincidence" that both reported RTM on the same day) - which will make patch management easier for MS.


Yes. I heard on the Windows Weekly podcast (episode 45) a month or so ago that Vista SP2 and Server 2008 SP1 will literally be the same thing. (approx 3-4 minutes into the podcast)


RE: Why not.
By Donkeyshins on 2/4/2008 2:10:37 PM , Rating: 2
There are a few minor issues still floating around - problems with the i945 HD Audio chipset not working when you come out of S1 / S3 state, for example. The hotfix identified doesn't always work. Other than that, I agree that Vista is pretty damn stable.


My Experience with Vista.
By MFK on 2/4/2008 5:06:08 PM , Rating: 2
So I went out and got the cheapest centrino laptop I could find at our local FutureShop. It turned out to be the ACER Aspire 5570.

Lets just say that I got what I paid for.
The system has problems going to sleep(takes 10 minutes to go to sleep), it has problems restarting (takes 5 minutes to shut down, if i'm lucky).

I have gotten the BSOD twice. For no apparent reason.

It turns it self on, also for no apparent reason, while in my backpack.

Its so slow, it reminds me of my Pentium 233mhz trying to run Windows Millenium.

I agree some of these faults lie with ACER, but honestly?
I added another gig of ram thinking that might help the system sleep faster and stuff. But honestly, I cannot tell the difference.
I used the Aero interface for about 2 weeks before getting tired of it. It would run so slow, that I could not type at full speed, becase the computer would not read my fast key presses!

I wish I had bought an XP laptop instead!
:(




RE: My Experience with Vista.
By AlphaVirus on 2/4/2008 5:31:17 PM , Rating: 2
From my experience, I have not seen BSOD since...well since XP first came out.

As for why it takes so long to sleep and restart, you might have a defective hard drive. If not the hard drive then you need to contact Acer and ask if they can send you a replacement.
I had none of the problems you mentioned running on
AMD X2 3800 (might I remind you this is the slowest dual core AMD had at the time)
1gig of factory ram (which we all know sucks)
Vista Home Premium

If Acer can not fix your issue then you should have a techy look at it for you, you might have a virus or trojan. That is the only thing I can think of that would be turning it on and off out of nowhere. Or possibly a schedule has been set by accident by the user (you, or anyone else who logs in).

Good luck buddy.


RE: My Experience with Vista.
By Locutus465 on 2/4/2008 5:40:15 PM , Rating: 2
What did that laptop come with? I got an about bottom of the barrol HP laptop and it functions great as a business machine (after memory upgrade to 2GB). My system specs are:

1.8GHz Athlon 64 X2
packaged with 1GB memory (upgraded to 2)
160GB 5400RPM hard drive
Geforce Go 7150M (shares graphics memory with main system)
WiFi built in (don't all laptops come with this now?)
A few extra trimmings like media buttons, microphone on top of screen.

The thing came packaged with Home Premium running Areo which I upgraded to Ultimate ed. due to work requirements. Typically I have between 10 and 15 windows open at any given time (includes web browsers with mutliple tabs open) and I don't have any real issues at all. It preforms adequatly across the board, I wouldn't game with it, but for office work, web browsing, reading email it's a champ. start up is a bit slow since I installed SQL server dev edition, but shut down, sleep & wakeup are all snappy. It will stall when I start closing apps at the end of the day if I've been particularly hard on the system (opening windows xp VPC with 128MB ram for instance) due to the system clearing out the page file, but that's about it.


RE: My Experience with Vista.
By Locutus465 on 2/4/2008 5:48:58 PM , Rating: 2
Oh, I should note that at the office I'm running dual monitors with Aero enabled.


Why the delay?
By Spivonious on 2/4/2008 10:50:39 AM , Rating: 2
What is holding the release up? If it's RTM then no more changes will be made, and the only thing they need to do to release it is to place it on the update server.




RE: Why the delay?
By Souka on 2/4/2008 11:16:21 AM , Rating: 1
cuz their not ready to handle the millions of additional support calls when the public installs SP1.

Relasing to OEM will further help their KB and be ready to release to public.

(notice I said "additonal support calls"....I know they've had to expand their tech support quite a bit with Vista, especially for Gold and Platnium business customers)


RE: Why the delay?
By TomZ on 2/4/2008 12:18:09 PM , Rating: 2
No, as the article says, and Mike Nash's blog entry details, the reason for the delay is to give Microsoft some additional time to identify and work with some hardware driver vendors to fix their install issues on Vista. Otherwise


March?
By Ihmemies on 2/4/2008 2:35:24 PM , Rating: 3
Is there some reason why I can't download it now?




RE: March?
By FITCamaro on 2/4/2008 3:28:55 PM , Rating: 2
Because its not released yet. It's just gone off to the presses. It's download release will coincide with its disc release.


bah...
By RamarC on 2/4/2008 10:40:23 AM , Rating: 2
any word on when XP SP3 will be RTM?




RE: bah...
By bupkus on 2/4/2008 12:29:28 PM , Rating: 2
My bet would be after the Vista release.


Vista to Crysis
By AggressorPrime on 2/4/2008 8:01:55 PM , Rating: 2
Vista + DX10 Video Card = Best Crysis Experience

DX10 Crysis is awesome and people need Vista to play it the way it is meant to be played. I know Vista has many problems and slowdowns, but I have been able to fix all those and the slow downs are not noticeable granted you have at least a dual-core CPU, 2GB RAM, and a mid-end DX10 GPU.




Yarrrr?
By EricMartello on 2/6/2008 8:25:27 AM , Rating: 2
I wonder if SP1 will have adverse effects on anyone who decided to use a pirated copy of Vista. :D




Vista SP1
By davidlan on 2/11/2008 11:58:48 AM , Rating: 2
In case anyone wants x86 SP1 now:

http://depositfiles.com/en/files/3022334#

and you can verify its md5 checksum with the one posted here:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=365

enjoy!




smart move
By tastyratz on 2/4/08, Rating: -1
RE: smart move
By TomZ on 2/4/2008 1:40:15 PM , Rating: 1
Actually Windows Update does this kind of thing all the time. Its logic is far deeper than "compare versions of component and update component if newer."

For example, I recenly upgraded one of my Vista machines from 2GB to 4GB of RAM, later that day Windows Update popped up asking to install a KB fix to improve stability with machines with over 2GB of RAM. Pretty cool.


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